I guess I should tell the families I know who have hot tubs that they're doing it wrong. They should only have those if they don't have kids
Your not understanding what I mean by family play and I stand by what I said about hanging out in a hot tub not being what I class as family time. I don't have a single neighbor nor do I know or have I ever known anyone who owns a hot tub.
I wasn't responding to you.
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Kids can go in the hot tub. They threw us that bone at least.
My irritation is that the hot tub is considered a "group activity". They're just going to sit it in and chat endlessly. TS4 needs another location for chatting like it needs a hole in its head. I want my sims to DO things together. Not just chat here then move over there and chat some more.
My exact thoughts. I don't need another place for them to sit and yak, and omg, think how 'they might' move around in the hot tub like they play musical chairs. And what about kids (for those group talks) getting into the tub when you had planned a woohoo for the couple. Good Grief I expect to hear the griping next week.
Thank you King for making this thread, somebody had to say it. And yes this game is only about parties, drinking and woohooing.
They can skinny dip too which means Sims will always interrupt and get embarrassed no doubt like the do with the bathroom.
So, let me get this right then. I can make an Adult skinny dip while my Sim's kids are in the area and or getting in the hot tub? That's something you never want to see, to see your parent naked.
I am already concerned by this as well. Kids in hot tubs? What if there is a woohoo bug between kids? There is already a shocking number of incest bugs as it is...
Well, I already had a TS4 bug where my child's mom and her new husband were woohooing on top of him while he was asleep in their bed. I wouldn't be surprised if this did happen.
What?! I would be ranting if the game made my Sims go get in the wrong bed.
My game makes my sims go to the wrong bed all the time. One of my sims constantly sleeps in her mom's bed. Just about everyone in my household wants to sleep in their mom's bed, even though she's been "adventurous" with almost everyone in the neighborhood with that bed. I don't care anymore. These bugs, and whatever is causing this, has gotten me to a point where I don't care anymore.
Kids can go in the hot tub. They threw us that bone at least.
My irritation is that the hot tub is considered a "group activity". They're just going to sit it in and chat endlessly. TS4 needs another location for chatting like it needs a hole in its head. I want my sims to DO things together. Not just chat here then move over there and chat some more.
My exact thoughts. I don't need another place for them to sit and yak, and omg, think how 'they might' move around in the hot tub like they play musical chairs. And what about kids (for those group talks) getting into the tub when you had planned a woohoo for the couple. Good Grief I expect to hear the griping next week.
Thank you King for making this thread, somebody had to say it. And yes this game is only about parties, drinking and woohooing.
They can skinny dip too which means Sims will always interrupt and get embarrassed no doubt like the do with the bathroom.
So, let me get this right then. I can make an Adult skinny dip while my Sim's kids are in the area and or getting in the hot tub? That's something you never want to see, to see your parent naked.
I am already concerned by this as well. Kids in hot tubs? What if there is a woohoo bug between kids? There is already a shocking number of incest bugs as it is...
Well, I already had a TS4 bug where my child's mom and her new husband were woohooing on top of him while he was asleep in their bed. I wouldn't be surprised if this did happen.
You serious?
DEAD Serious. I talked about this bug on another thread, actually. Excuse me while I shutter in the corner
and let me guess, the thread got moved to feedback and as of yet, the bug hasn't been fixed?
I posted it somewhere, but I didn't make a thread about it. All I know is, if it happens again, I'm taking a picture and posting it.
I guess I should tell the families I know who have hot tubs that they're doing it wrong. They should only have those if they don't have kids
No, but I wonder should any of us be concerned when we command our Sims to skinny dip if the kids (on auto pilot) will go ahead and come outside and try to get in the hot tub. I can imagine the videos on You Tube using that auto feature to their advantage. Can't you?
With that logic, Woo Hooing shouldn't be in the game because child Sims can easily walk in on their parent's having "adult time". And what about showering? These things happen all the time but they also happen in real life.
I guess I should tell the families I know who have hot tubs that they're doing it wrong. They should only have those if they don't have kids
Your not understanding what I mean by family play and I stand by what I said about hanging out in a hot tub not being what I class as family time. I don't have a single neighbor nor do I know or have I ever known anyone who owns a hot tub.
Just because you don't know anyone with a hot tub doesn't mean that's a thing. In fact, I've known more people with one than ones without. And just because that's not how you define family play doesn't mean its not how someone else does.
You are not understanding. The TS4 is infamous because Sims have to group talk whether they need social or not. Imagine since kids can get in this hot tub (never before is why EA gurus are bragging) if they go ahead to 'group talk' like they do all day long in this game when you told the six to eight Sims to skinny dip....but here comes the talkative kid in the game which all of them do nothing but talk every single Sim in the game whether they need to talk or not. This is only going to be one big fat complaint about two days after the SP is in people's pcs. Then bet me money we don't hear the kids keep getting in the hot tub but they wanted their Sims to woohoo or wanted the neighbors etc. It's just another gripe thread waiting to happen. I will wager on it.
And not because we didn't have hot tubs and beds and places to woohoo with family Sims but because 'these' Sims can't stop themselves from interrupting and going where everyone else is. That's the problem with this game. Not that they shouldn't have these things.
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I guess I should tell the families I know who have hot tubs that they're doing it wrong. They should only have those if they don't have kids
No, but I wonder should any of us be concerned when we command our Sims to skinny dip if the kids (on auto pilot) will go ahead and come outside and try to get in the hot tub. I can imagine the videos on You Tube using that auto feature to their advantage. Can't you?
So you assume that the devs didn't think of that? It's not like kids are walking in on woohoo now all the time.
Call me nuts, but I have more respect for the devs than to assume they haven't at least planned an appropriate response if kids walked outside.
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My married Sims hardly ever sleep in the same bed. All the kids seem to sleep in the parents bed! Its so annoying as the dad ends up staying in the kids room poor guy!
Really ya'll? What kind of childhoods did you have where you didn't experience family BBQs? And only moms and people with nice houses care about patio furniture, this is the kind of stuff that is featured on HGTV and in those gardening magazines you get at Lowe's. The only thing included that isn't super family orientated is the hot tub, but that's because all of you are talking about skinny dipping and Woo Hooing when some people just like to relax and enjoy them without all that dirty stuff.
Now, when the kids are asleep, the hot tub would come in handy. But seriously, this SP sounds perfect for completing your family home with nice furniture for your patio.
When I was growing up, I never had a patio and neither did any of my friends. I don't think I ever met anybody with a patio unless a lawn chair on the porch counts. I still don't have a patio.
As for BBQs, well, my family very rarely got together and I hate barbeque.
Can't speak about hot tubs. Never been in one.
Believe it or not, childhoods and families aren't identical experiences, you know.
My married Sims hardly ever sleep in the same bed. All the kids seem to sleep in the parents bed! Its so annoying as the dad ends up staying in the kids room poor guy!
The sad thing is, they promoted 'smarter Sims' this time round yet I am convinced that Sims slept in their own beds back in TS1 and it was rumoured back then that some Sims actually 'learnt' which beds to sleep in
The Sims 4 has more family play than the Sims 2 and the Sims 3.
Children can get in hot tubs for the first time in Sims history.
Oh yes sorry, I forgot, they did really well with the toddlers in this one. The teens look so cool now as well with their own unique interactions and the babies are so cute when you taken them out to the park!
Your gif is making me roll on floor. Just think they could add Mary Had A Little Lamb music to the hot tub while the kids and adults play musical chairs in there to switch seats.
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The Sims 4 has more family play than the Sims 2 and the Sims 3.
Children can get in hot tubs for the first time in Sims history.
Oh yes sorry, I forgot, they did really well with the toddlers in this one. The teens look so cool now as well with their own unique interactions and the babies are so cute when you taken them out to the park!
Your gif is making me roll on floor. Just think they could add Mary Had A Little Lamb music to the hot tub while the kids and adults play musical chairs in there to switch seats.
Believe it or not, childhoods and families aren't identical experiences, you know.
Exactly. Which is why assuming that hot tubs can't be a family thing just because you haven't seen it IRL doesn't work.
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I guess I should tell the families I know who have hot tubs that they're doing it wrong. They should only have those if they don't have kids
No, but I wonder should any of us be concerned when we command our Sims to skinny dip if the kids (on auto pilot) will go ahead and come outside and try to get in the hot tub. I can imagine the videos on You Tube using that auto feature to their advantage. Can't you?
So you assume that the devs didn't think of that? It's not like kids are walking in on woohoo now all the time.
Call me nuts, but I have more respect for the devs than to assume they haven't at least planned an appropriate response if kids walked outside.
^^This. TS3 had skinny dipping and I don't remember having a problem with the kids seeing anything.
Idk, when I was younger and we'd go to hotels with pools and hot tubs, one of the best parts was sitting in the hot tub and letting the jets massage your back. Ya'll just haven't been living
In real life kids shouldn't get in hot tubs it is harmful to them just as adults have a bad habit of staying too long and can cause themselves some real harm.
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There's no reason why hot tubs can't be enjoyed by a family.
However the lack of ways to play and things to do other than talking is sorely needed for family play, as is a better early years experience for the player.
I'd be happy if I knew that stuff was coming, but all the while they talk about everything other than the improvements to family play being discussed for months and with thousands of wonderful ideas I really struggle to believe they are listening.
Idk, when I was younger and we'd go to hotels with pools and hot tubs, one of the best parts was sitting in the hot tub and letting the jets massage your back. Ya'll just haven't been living
In real life kids shouldn't get in hot tubs it is harmful to them just as adults have a bad habit of staying too long and can cause themselves some real harm.
Believe it or not, childhoods and families aren't identical experiences, you know.
Exactly. Which is why assuming that hot tubs can't be a family thing just because you haven't seen it IRL doesn't work.
Fair enough, though I can't picture what child wants burning hot water against their skin. If I had a hot tub and any children, they wouldn't be permitted in it until they were in their late teens.
Idk, when I was younger and we'd go to hotels with pools and hot tubs, one of the best parts was sitting in the hot tub and letting the jets massage your back. Ya'll just haven't been living
In real life kids shouldn't get in hot tubs it is harmful to them just as adults have a bad habit of staying too long and can cause themselves some real harm.
Well said!
Seconded. Hot tubs aren't safe for children, especially not small children.
Believe it or not, childhoods and families aren't identical experiences, you know.
Exactly. Which is why assuming that hot tubs can't be a family thing just because you haven't seen it IRL doesn't work.
Yes, I remember my childhood being centred around our family hot tub sipping Champaign while all the other kids my age played 'Cops and robbers'
Whatever. Where I live, hot tubs are mostly a middle-class suburban thing. They cost less than a car. The hot tub sellers set up at the summer fair, in the end near the kids midway. Perhaps you're confusing real life with singles sitcoms and soap operas?
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There's no reason why hot tubs can't be enjoyed by a family.
However the lack of ways to play and things to do other than talking is sorely needed for family play, as is a better early years experience for the player.
I'd be happy if I knew that stuff was coming, but all the while they talk about everything other than the improvements to family play being discussed for months and with thousands of wonderful ideas I really struggle to believe they are listening.
That's the thing, they are adding small things like hot tubs, yet they are unable to respond some of the most requested things people have been asking for since before the game even launched. That is in my opinion, appalling.
I guess I should tell the families I know who have hot tubs that they're doing it wrong. They should only have those if they don't have kids
No, but I wonder should any of us be concerned when we command our Sims to skinny dip if the kids (on auto pilot) will go ahead and come outside and try to get in the hot tub. I can imagine the videos on You Tube using that auto feature to their advantage. Can't you?
So you assume that the devs didn't think of that? It's not like kids are walking in on woohoo now all the time.
Call me nuts, but I have more respect for the devs than to assume they haven't at least planned an appropriate response if kids walked outside.
^^This. TS3 had skinny dipping and I don't remember having a problem with the kids seeing anything.
Sims 4 Sims seem to purposly put themselves into a situation where they are going to either become embarrassed or embarrass someone else. Its like the game forces it to happen. Kids at the moment always seem to just walk into the bathroom when someone's on the loo or in the shower. It happens alot in my game.
Believe it or not, childhoods and families aren't identical experiences, you know.
Exactly. Which is why assuming that hot tubs can't be a family thing just because you haven't seen it IRL doesn't work.
The 'hot tub' is a status symbol of The Sims. It's a 'you have made it' ' you make the big bucks' 'you have earned it' go ahead and party and live it up. It doesn't matter about real life. This is The Sims and the hot tub is a status symbol. It has nothing to do with family in any of the games. And saying it's a family thing game play for kids to get in it is laughable, really.
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Have you guys ever been in a hot tub? It's not burning hot or no one would want to get in it. But I'm done arguing, you guys seemed convinced that this pack can't be useful for families. But when it comes out, I'll be updating my family of five's patio area, complete with a hot tub while also giving my single Sims a hot tub of their own.
Believe it or not, childhoods and families aren't identical experiences, you know.
Exactly. Which is why assuming that hot tubs can't be a family thing just because you haven't seen it IRL doesn't work.
Yes, I remember my childhood being centred around our family hot tub sipping Champaign while all the other kids my age played 'Cops and robbers'
Whatever. Where I live, hot tubs are mostly a middle-class suburban thing. They cost less than a car. The hot tub sellers set up at the summer fair, in the end near the kids midway. Perhaps you're confusing real life with singles sitcoms and soap operas?
No, the average 'middle class' in the UK o not own hot tubs. It is seen as a 'well off thing' and my Sims game is socially mixed. Even wealthier Sims do not have hot tubs and it is never something I thought of children using, rich young adults maybe and honeymoon married couples but not 'the Jones' from next door.
I guess I should tell the families I know who have hot tubs that they're doing it wrong. They should only have those if they don't have kids
No, but I wonder should any of us be concerned when we command our Sims to skinny dip if the kids (on auto pilot) will go ahead and come outside and try to get in the hot tub. I can imagine the videos on You Tube using that auto feature to their advantage. Can't you?
So you assume that the devs didn't think of that? It's not like kids are walking in on woohoo now all the time.
Call me nuts, but I have more respect for the devs than to assume they haven't at least planned an appropriate response if kids walked outside.
^^This. TS3 had skinny dipping and I don't remember having a problem with the kids seeing anything.
Sims 4 Sims seem to purposly put themselves into a situation where they are going to either become embarrassed or embarrass someone else. Its like the game forces it to happen. Kids at the moment always seem to just walk into the bathroom when someone's on the loo or in the shower. It happens alot in my game.
As far as I can tell, sims don't have any sense of privacy in this game. I have to watch my sims to make sure they don't invade on someone's privacy or interrupt someone else. Which makes other sims a nuisance.
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I wasn't responding to you.
I am sorry that you have had these issues
I posted it somewhere, but I didn't make a thread about it. All I know is, if it happens again, I'm taking a picture and posting it.
You are not understanding. The TS4 is infamous because Sims have to group talk whether they need social or not. Imagine since kids can get in this hot tub (never before is why EA gurus are bragging) if they go ahead to 'group talk' like they do all day long in this game when you told the six to eight Sims to skinny dip....but here comes the talkative kid in the game which all of them do nothing but talk every single Sim in the game whether they need to talk or not. This is only going to be one big fat complaint about two days after the SP is in people's pcs. Then bet me money we don't hear the kids keep getting in the hot tub but they wanted their Sims to woohoo or wanted the neighbors etc. It's just another gripe thread waiting to happen. I will wager on it.
And not because we didn't have hot tubs and beds and places to woohoo with family Sims but because 'these' Sims can't stop themselves from interrupting and going where everyone else is. That's the problem with this game. Not that they shouldn't have these things.
So you assume that the devs didn't think of that? It's not like kids are walking in on woohoo now all the time.
Call me nuts, but I have more respect for the devs than to assume they haven't at least planned an appropriate response if kids walked outside.
As for BBQs, well, my family very rarely got together and I hate barbeque.
Can't speak about hot tubs. Never been in one.
Believe it or not, childhoods and families aren't identical experiences, you know.
The sad thing is, they promoted 'smarter Sims' this time round yet I am convinced that Sims slept in their own beds back in TS1 and it was rumoured back then that some Sims actually 'learnt' which beds to sleep in
Your gif is making me roll on floor. Just think they could add Mary Had A Little Lamb music to the hot tub while the kids and adults play musical chairs in there to switch seats.
I am trying to imagine that myself lol
Exactly. Which is why assuming that hot tubs can't be a family thing just because you haven't seen it IRL doesn't work.
Yes, I remember my childhood being centred around our family hot tub sipping Champaign while all the other kids my age played 'Cops and robbers'
^^This. TS3 had skinny dipping and I don't remember having a problem with the kids seeing anything.
In real life kids shouldn't get in hot tubs it is harmful to them just as adults have a bad habit of staying too long and can cause themselves some real harm.
However the lack of ways to play and things to do other than talking is sorely needed for family play, as is a better early years experience for the player.
I'd be happy if I knew that stuff was coming, but all the while they talk about everything other than the improvements to family play being discussed for months and with thousands of wonderful ideas I really struggle to believe they are listening.
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Well said!
Fair enough, though I can't picture what child wants burning hot water against their skin. If I had a hot tub and any children, they wouldn't be permitted in it until they were in their late teens.
Seconded. Hot tubs aren't safe for children, especially not small children.
Whatever. Where I live, hot tubs are mostly a middle-class suburban thing. They cost less than a car. The hot tub sellers set up at the summer fair, in the end near the kids midway. Perhaps you're confusing real life with singles sitcoms and soap operas?
That's the thing, they are adding small things like hot tubs, yet they are unable to respond some of the most requested things people have been asking for since before the game even launched. That is in my opinion, appalling.
Sims 4 Sims seem to purposly put themselves into a situation where they are going to either become embarrassed or embarrass someone else. Its like the game forces it to happen. Kids at the moment always seem to just walk into the bathroom when someone's on the loo or in the shower. It happens alot in my game.
The 'hot tub' is a status symbol of The Sims. It's a 'you have made it' ' you make the big bucks' 'you have earned it' go ahead and party and live it up. It doesn't matter about real life. This is The Sims and the hot tub is a status symbol. It has nothing to do with family in any of the games. And saying it's a family thing game play for kids to get in it is laughable, really.
No, the average 'middle class' in the UK o not own hot tubs. It is seen as a 'well off thing' and my Sims game is socially mixed. Even wealthier Sims do not have hot tubs and it is never something I thought of children using, rich young adults maybe and honeymoon married couples but not 'the Jones' from next door.
As far as I can tell, sims don't have any sense of privacy in this game. I have to watch my sims to make sure they don't invade on someone's privacy or interrupt someone else. Which makes other sims a nuisance.