If Sims 4 doesn't make enough money, will there be a 5? «1234567…15...Next Go

Sim_Lucent

What is everyone's thought on this?
To me.. I'm really hesitant to think the franchise would continue if Sims 4 turns out to be a total bust for them (I'm not sure it even is, but I heard sales were WAY down from what they had estimated).

king_of_simcity7

Why are people talking about TS5 now? Is TS4 so bad that people want a new game already?

xBob18

That's what a Guru said. They won't make a sequel if the current game isn't profitable enough.

Sim_Lucent

^ I'm mostly curious to what people think of this as there is so much rumble about what people would want to see in Sims 5, and every time I see a topic like that I always think 'will there even be a 5 if they don't make enough money..?'

I'm still discovering everything about TS3 -- some people love TS4.. some are very disappointed with it.

Crunchie885

Yup. It was a threat that was made to scare people into buying TS4 by a guru. Personally I don't believe it. Sim City was a major flop and there's still talk of more of em.

Personally I think EA should start investing and creating TS5. Make it everything TS4 isn't.

sparkfairy1

I'd rather not consider it. I'm holding onto hope they are paying attention to us all in the disappointment to create better for the sims 4 before I consider 5. I paid for 4, I've no desire to see it be a complete waste for me over time which is why I try to get heard

king_of_simcity7

Crunchie885 wrote: »

Yup. It was a threat that was made to scare people into buying TS4. Personally I don't believe it. Sim City was a major flop and there's still talk of more of em.

Personally I think EA should start investing and creating TS5. Make it everything TS4 isn't.

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Yes, lessons can be learnt but will EA learn them?

Sim_Lucent

I see how it could be taken as a threat -- but from a business stand point (and that's not me trying to diminish mine or anyone's thoughts that EA has really fallen short on their customer satisfaction) it wouldn't even make sense to consider a Sims 5. Whether the fault lies in lack of interest to the game, their own downfall, etc.. without the funds to move forward, it would seem pointless to continue the franchise further.

Crunchie885

king_of_simcity7 wrote: »

Crunchie885 wrote: »

Yup. It was a threat that was made to scare people into buying TS4. Personally I don't believe it. Sim City was a major flop and there's still talk of more of em.

Personally I think EA should start investing and creating TS5. Make it everything TS4 isn't.

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Yes, lessons can be learnt but will EA learn them?

Have they learned them?
The Sims Online
Sim City
Sims Olympus
The Sims 4

And that's only the sims franchise...

cauliflowers

I was actually pretty offended when they made that comment, possibly one of the more unprofessional statements I've ever read from a developer truthfully

CapraCorn104

I wouldn't mind if there wasn't a Sims 5.

Sk8rblaze

SelenaGrey wrote: »

cauliflowers wrote: »

I was actually pretty offended when they made that comment, possibly one of the more unprofessional statements I've ever read from a developer truthfully

It is extremely unprofessional, I agree. They shouldn't be holding sims 5 hostage, but then again .. seeing all how sims4 is turning out .. do we even want it?

Well that particular PR person has known to act unprofessionally multiple times. The whole PR department at Maxis needs improving.

Jessa_Dakkar

cauliflowers wrote: »

I was actually pretty offended when they made that comment, possibly one of the more unprofessional statements I've ever read from a developer truthfully

Agreed! Very much a 'if you don't eat all your dinner and love it, you will not get dessert' kinda statement. Because we're all three years old.

AnnePlays

They could learn from toddlers lol

Biotic_Warlock

king_of_simcity7 wrote: »

Why are people talking about TS5 now? Is TS4 so bad that people want a new game already?

Don't worry, this happened at the same point after TS3 release. :P

CrackFox

I agree that the comment from Grant was most likely a threat. Sims fans can be very loyal and I think that was preying on our loyalty to the franchise as whole (not 4 in particular) I expect to see the Sims 5 regardless of how well 4 sells. If EA did drop it I imagine another company would pick it up and that would be a whole other avenue of interest for me. Chances are it would be better.

sparkfairy1

People make mistakes, he said it in the heat of the moment and then apologised. I don't think it's an official position and likely why people are reluctant to talk sometimes if they feel mistakes will be mulled over despite apologies. Give him a break

Cinebar

Sim_Lucent wrote: »

What is everyone's thought on this?
To me.. I'm really hesitant to think the franchise would continue if Sims 4 turns out to be a total bust for them (I'm not sure it even is, but I heard sales were WAY down from what they had estimated).

Yes, there will and it may be for tablet or iPhone but yes, don't you believe EA will bury The Sims Franchise. There will be some sort of TS5 even if we don't think it is the TS5.

stcarnamedwant

sparkfairy1 wrote: »

I'd rather not consider it. I'm holding onto hope they are paying attention to us all in the disappointment to create better for the sims 4 before I consider 5. I paid for 4, I've no desire to see it be a complete waste for me over time which is why I try to get heard

I agree. TS4 has so much potential, and I would be pretty upset if I didn't get to experience pets, weather, etc. in TS4 because they scrapped it and moved on.

dmel25

Grant was talking out of his 🐸🐸🐸🐸 to get people to buy Sims 4 since so many people were "hating" on it. It is a load of crap to believe they won't make a Sims 5. EA has so much money from all their games, it isn't a question of money so I think there will be a Sims 5. The real question is if they will choose to listen to us and make it the correct way?

Ells

cauliflowers wrote: »

I was actually pretty offended when they made that comment, possibly one of the more unprofessional statements I've ever read from a developer truthfully

I absolutely agree with this. I found it very, very unprofessional.

Sanriel85

Sims 4 is not mistake, mistake is people to think already for sims 5.

Felicity

There will be. Sims is too much of a cash cow. You know, the devs of Dragon Age said the same thing about Dragon Age 2 when people started complaining about the huge shift in play style -- that if it didn't sell well, we'd never find out what happens with Morrigan.

Of course, DA2 was not well received by fans, so the DLCs were cut way short and the planned expansion was scrapped. But the next installment of the series did happen with a bit of a shift back so it's between the styles of DAO and DA2. Of course, not everyone is happy with the hybrid, but the game is well enough received that I'm sure there will be DLC and a continuation.

Worst case scenario is if Sims 4 doesn't do as well as projected as far as DLC sales go, that will be ended early and more resources will be thrown at Sims 5.

Silverlight26

There will be a Sims 5, but it will be for iPhone/android/tablets, with an online payment system. (Like the sims freeplay). EA doesn't care about their pc games anymore. :|

nilanius

SelenaGrey wrote: »

cauliflowers wrote: »

I was actually pretty offended when they made that comment, possibly one of the more unprofessional statements I've ever read from a developer truthfully

It is extremely unprofessional, I agree. They shouldn't be holding sims 5 hostage, but then again .. seeing all how sims4 is turning out .. do we even want it?

My short answer: No. Not if they approached it like they did TS4.

Now on the topic question:

Honestly, with how much heat is being created with every decision EA has been making with TS4, more and more loyal fans, are starting to turn against Sims 4. They are going to keep going this path until, like Final Fantasy XIV 1.0, their entire player-base is extremely unhappy. Then 1 of 2 possible outcomes will happen:

1. They will apologize for the decisions they've made, and start working on The Sims 5, and a mega patch for The Sims 4, to try and give it the treatment the title actually deserves, but given the basic program's coding, it is extremely limited, and thus why they will decide it is best to start over from scratch, but will have a team work on the mega patch while they take their time and do The Sims 5 right. This scenario though I feel is unlikely at this point in time.
2. They will apologize for the decisions made in regards to The Sims 4, but add that because of funding issues, and the negative reception The Sims 4 has gotten, all plans for expanding The Sims 4 will be halted, and unfortunately EA will abandon the sims franchise altogether. This will leave open, the possibility for another company to start work on their own sim game, without using the sims title. But that is far far off. But this scenario I suspect right now, is the most likely.

Wildley Curious

Jessa_Dakkar wrote: »

cauliflowers wrote: »

I was actually pretty offended when they made that comment, possibly one of the more unprofessional statements I've ever read from a developer truthfully

Agreed! Very much a 'if you don't eat all your dinner and love it, you will not get dessert' kinda statement. Because we're all three years old.

I really think that's who they geared this game to. I think it speaks volumes about EA's mindset on this franchise now. Gotta hand it to 'em, whoever derailed the life simulation aspect of the franchise did a good job. Unfortunately for us.