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Don't worry toddler fans, I'm sure they will bring them to the game soon enough. We can't have every EP released first. If they released a Generations EP first, people who were most looking forward to Seasons/Pets/OFB/Vacations/Supernatural/University would be disappointed. The same for no matter what EP it was.
I have confidence that EA is going to bring toddlers to the game in some way.
I'm hoping that, and the family tree are part of what they are looking to fix with the December patch.
I, personally, would love an OFB type EP.
What the ever loving plum?? That thing is hideously 🐸🐸🐸🐸 lol!
#candefinitelylivewithoutthatthing
It's giant....crab....bird...crabbird! Who hasn't ever heard of a crabbird!
Personally I love it. As much as I'm not a fan of some of the sillier things of the game (angry pooping and peeing like a champion) I think this is pretty funny.
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Also, just how is it suddenly ok to leak photos for OFB yet they claim they can't give us an answer on toddlers?
Yours & mine both!
On the developers blog, it said it was a mix of current and old projects.
The pictures he uploaded of things we already have in game, were also on the internet a while ago. The ones in this thread, have never been seen.
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Don't get me wrong. I LOVE OFB in my Sims 2 game. But my sims in that game are fleshed out, they have more emotions that my Sim 4 simmies. EA needs to work on that instead of an EP.
As for me... eh, yay for saving my money I guess. xD
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LoL @ crabbird! I think you nailed the name lol!
Is my memory correct? You don't even play Sims 4, do you? (just curious...)
Toddlers is gameplay. Toddlers is practically a symbol for everyone that loves legacy and family style GAMEPLAY, I'm guessing you're not a generational/legacy player or don't care much for toddlers and families, but for those of us who do family play is the whole game. That is what we want to experience.
If EA waits that long to bring in toddlers, I will be FURIOUS. This game is broken to me without family gameplay and it's really hard for me to play, all of my families are in stasis and aren't having any children because of this horrible situation. I'm tired of people that don't play toddlers saying that they're just more work and aren't gameplay. I enjoy that "work" to me growing and developing a family is the entire gameplay of the sims, the same as other people enjoy grinding their sims to the top of their careers. Not having toddlers for me is as if they released the game with no careers and sims couldn't leave their home lot, that is how broken the game looks to me.
Creating and developing a complex family is the gameplay that I want to experience, so they need to roll out a family EP ASAP or they're going to loose me as a customer, I can't hold out for this stuff much longer. I've been playing since TS1 and if they continue to jerk me around on this for much longer, I will leave this series. I'm tired of seeing everyone else get what they want in pool patches and ghosts and everything else while us family players are ignored.
It had better come 1st or 2nd otherwise I will be boycotting all EP's and future content of TS4 until we get toddlers and family gameplay back, because for some of us that is the entire experience and gameplay, though you may not see it that way, the way that we play is just as valid as anyone else's.
If they wait until the 4th EP to release a family EP, I will be LIVID. There wasn't as much need in TS3 to release a generations EP first or second, TS3 didn't have a cracked-wacked up base game that totally messed up 2 lifestages. Right now the base game of TS4 is BROKEN in my opinion because teenagers look like adults, babies are nothing but objects and toddlers were just tossed out without a care. That is unacceptable in my opinion and what they need to do is FIX IT and sooner rather than later, because if not, these forums will erupt in riots. I will get OFB if it's the first EP, but if the second EP isn't a family theme or they wait until the 4th EP to release it, I am going to boycott all EP's until they release a family EP. I will accept the first as OFB and will probably get it if it's OFB, but if the second EP isn't a family EP, I am boycotting all EP's until they release a family EP. It's ridiculous that we even have to ask to have toddlers put back in the game in the first place, messed up ridiculous base game. A family EP should have been first for this horrible borked up base game.
Family stuff isn't just 'nice' it's integral--EDIT: At least to me, and a ton of other simmers.
You're being slightly dramatic.
I UNDERSTAND people love generational play. But EA needs "content" to sell to the General Public (the main buyers of the game).
Do you honestly think an advertisement announcing "Toddlers" and new "Family" interactions is going to help the Sims 4 recover? That sounds like basic Sims content (which it is) and is what the General Public think the Sims already is.
A advertisement announcing new places for your Sims to go, and more content such as running a business, as well as being able to build your own business/shop/restaurant etc. is a much wider audience to appeal to then "oh your family can now have a picnic" and "toddlers are now in the game".
Sims fans need to understand why Generational stuff is released after the first year. Because it only appeals to a small fraction of players.
Remember, The Sims 1 didn't have Generational content at all, nor did it have more than three life stages and yet it was the best selling PC game of all time, at the time. The general players of The Sims aren't interested in what the diehard Sims fans are into.
They just want to build their own house, decorate, make Sims, create drama, and fufill needs and wants.
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I understand why Generational players would be upset, but they have to understand the first Expansion Pack HAS to appeal to the general public MORE than the Fans. Because the first few Expansion Packs are what makes the Public side with the game, or ignore it.
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You certainly are all heated up about this, and that's your right. Your money, your opinion. Kudos
But I do take exception to your last statement. Toddlers (speaking only for myself), aren't integral to my game play. I toyed with them for a NewYorkMinute when you could push them in a stroller. Then, I was done. When I do/did play with kids, it was always from a child-age range, if at all.
Thats probably why it was chosen to be the first one worked on. It was the most requested from fans of both 2 and 3.
It was my favorite EP as well, hands down.
Again, the first few packs are never aimed towards the fans. They are aimed towards the general public.
WHO said I didn't want Family stuff in the game? I'm being logical. University, World Adventures, Ambitions etc. are packs that focus on new Experiences to ensure that the Public buy the Game. If Generations was the first Expansion Pack for the Sims 3, The Sims 3 wouldn't have done as well as it did.
World Adventures was a HUGE EP in the grand scheme of things, but it was pretty much nothing what Sims fans were asking for.
Okay, no one is forcing you to buy an Expansion Pack that isn't aimed at you. Do you realise you're only supposed to pick the packs that interest you? I never bought Showtime for example, because that pack didn't interest me. Also, the pictures are based in Willow Creek. So there isn't a new world at this point.
You keep talking to me as if I'm responsible for this. I'm just being logical. Generational stuff is not what casual Sims players (the majority) are into. If it was, The Sims 2 console games wouldn't have sold as much as they did (they sold more than The Sims 2 PC game).
New things for players to experience is what the first few packs are based upon. Adding toddlers adds a familiar experience, but isn't anything new. The first EP's are always something new.
Also, they would have begun working on this before Toddlers were even announced as being absent. They are probably taking their time adding toddlers, while fully fleshing out the life stages.
I am very much so a family player. It's why I play both The Sims 2 and The Sims 4 right now.
But the General Public has shown to not be a Family player, they are a casual player. And the first Expansion packs are aimed toward the Public.
I'll mention this again, but only 6 million copies of The Sims 2 was sold on PC out of 25 million. More people bought the console versions that didn't feature Generational play. Generational play is not a huge factor to the majority of people who buy The Sims.
I miss the Generational aspect very much, which is why I switch between The Sims 2 and The Sims 4. Right now, I'm playing The Sims Life Stories because of some of the extra features ^^
But if The Sims 4 isn't what you want, you can play the previous games. If the previous games are as good as you say they are, they should be able to entertain you while you wait for The Sims 4 to be what you want.
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I don't think he's being dramatic at all. I think you don't realize how left out family players feel right now and how angry we're all getting because people feel that we're the minority when in fact, we're a HUGE chunk of EA's fanbase. We're tired of not being listened to and heard and told that our gameplay is less important than everyone elses. Just tired of it.
I do sort of agree that OFB has to be first to roll in the money they need, but at the same time if they don't release a family EP within the 1st or 2nd EP's they will loose a lot more customers than they or you realize, I think, and it will have major consequences. I will only let them get away with the 1st EP not being family, after that I will boycott them until they release a family EP. I think they'd make a lot more money on a generations EP this time around because unlike TS3, TS4 desperately NEEDS it.
The sims 1 didn't have generational content because it was a brand new concept! Then in TS2 we got generational gameplay, if I ever wanted to go backwards in gaming, I'd just re-install TS1. I don't see why we should be OK with our game degrading backwards to the first primitive version of itself, that's not progress in a game or a series and I won't tolerate that much degradation in my favorite game. I don't think it's just die-hard fans that want to create believable families, I believe that's a TON of people.
You saying that we're the minority when there's TONS of threads and shout outs for family gameplay is annoying, because a lot of us could represent regular consumers, not just die-hard fans. A generations EP wouldn't have sold as well in TS3 on the first EP because we had babies, toddlers and teens that looked like teens, this time around it would sell like hotcakes because the base is so borked.
I UNDERSTAND.
But the dramatic part is, accusing me of not being interested in Family play because I understand the decision. I AM interested.
You sometimes have to be logical, and understand that EA has to sell NEW content to the public. The first pack being content that previous games had is not going to help The Sims 4 at all, and it would probably mean the Sims 4 doesn't get as many packs.
EA ALWAYS sell new content as the first EP. There is a reason why they do this. It's to entice the public who have played the previous games, and are seeing what's new about the current one.
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