I'm just curious who here has actually seen fights in real life and who is just going by what they see on TV?
Unless you're in grade school, people don't usually form a circle around the people who are fighting and start cheering them on and choosing sides.
Sure I guess they could have looked shocked or whatever but I think you all are expecting a bit too much.
It was basically just two Sims interacting with one another. Granted it's a fight, but it's just an interaction. I wouldn't expect everyone around them to have a reaction to this anymore than I would expect everyone to have a reaction when one Sim asks another Sim if they are single.
Actually, I have and they do.
I've bartended in enough places to know that some people will leave, some will record, some will join in, and most will form a ring and get in the way of the bouncers.
Joe needs to get out more, a fight always breaks out in a bar, somewhere, some how.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
Broader point is that TS4 sims seem as inert as TS3 ones, for all the hype about emotions. They seem to be adding up to little more than extra busywork + a lot more 'emotional objects' (LOL) clutter to pad an otherwise paper-thin game out.
They may not all jump up and gather in a circle around the fight (though we all did that as teenagers) but there is always one idiot who will, always one who shouts "fiiiiigggggght"
Just curious but where do you live? Never in my adult life have I heard someone shout "fiiiiiiggggghhhhhhtttt" when people are fighting. As you said yes, that type of stuff happened all the time in school, but that's because kids are immature and thinking fights are "cool."
It looks like there are a few different reactions to the fight going on in the video. If you keep watching after the fight scene, there are two sims off to the side that appear to be have been standing and watching the fight at 22:52 in the LB.
Yeah... the people were just sitting there as if the two people in a fight were ghosts... So much for smart intuitive, emotional sims. Since that is basically their only selling point I don't know how this game is going to succeed. I thought the whole point of scaling back the graphics and eliminating open world was to allow for smart, spontaneous sims each with their own mind. They regressed all aspects of the sims only to deliver the same dumb sims that sit there unaware of their surroundings.
They may not all jump up and gather in a circle around the fight (though we all did that as teenagers) but there is always one idiot who will, always one who shouts "fiiiiigggggght"
Just curious but where do you live? Never in my adult life have I heard someone shout "fiiiiiiggggghhhhhhtttt" when people are fighting. As you said yes, that type of stuff happened all the time in school, but that's because kids are immature and thinking fights are "cool."
LOL, really Joe you are so insulated from the real world it seems. People do scream fight, or at least the buz goes around the bar, many people stop what they are doing, run over and watch, or get up in their seat to see above the commotion to see what is happening. The Sims not responding to this fight in the game shows they don't give a hoot just like the unresponsive TS3 Sim. So, sorry saying these Sims are smarter is just a farce.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
Yeah... the people were just sitting there as if the two people in a fight were ghosts... So much for smart intuitive, emotional sims. Since that is basically their only selling point I don't know how this game is going to succeed. I thought the whole point of scaling back the graphics and eliminating open world was to allow for smart, spontaneous sims each with their own mind. They regressed all aspects of the sims only to deliver the same dumb sims that sit there unaware of their surroundings.
Well said.
There are some sims just sitting there but at 22.22 you see a sim in a blue sweater get off the couch. She's out of view of the camera but at 22.52 she appears on camera again with another sim and they look like they had been watching the fight the whole time.
I've bartended in enough places to know that some people will leave, some will record, some will join in, and most will form a ring and get in the way of the bouncers.
I'm going to guess the "most" that form a ring are the ones that are drunk?
They may not all jump up and gather in a circle around the fight (though we all did that as teenagers) but there is always one idiot who will, always one who shouts "fiiiiigggggght"
Just curious but where do you live? Never in my adult life have I heard someone shout "fiiiiiiggggghhhhhhtttt" when people are fighting. As you said yes, that type of stuff happened all the time in school, but that's because kids are immature and thinking fights are "cool."
LOL, really Joe you are so insulated from the real world it seems. People do scream fight, or at least the buz goes around the bar, many people stop what they are doing, run over and watch, or get up in their seat to see above the commotion to see what is happening. The Sims not responding to this fight in the game shows they don't give a hoot just like the unresponsive TS3 Sim. So, sorry saying these Sims are smarter is just a farce.
You're right, maybe I just don't hang around enough bars filled with immature people I guess. I'm so sheltered
"Hey cool! Some guy is getting his face punched in! Let's watch and cheer the other guy on!"
They may not all jump up and gather in a circle around the fight (though we all did that as teenagers) but there is always one idiot who will, always one who shouts "fiiiiigggggght"
Just curious but where do you live? Never in my adult life have I heard someone shout "fiiiiiiggggghhhhhhtttt" when people are fighting. As you said yes, that type of stuff happened all the time in school, but that's because kids are immature and thinking fights are "cool."
-squint- Where do you live? I want to move there because I'm surrounded by adults like that xD
Seriously though do you go out much? I don't and I've still seen it. Adults are immature too, especially when they go out to drink. Let's be real here.
@ the op. I said this before the emotion system would be nothing if they don't program the animations and interactions needed to make it look like an upgrade. Given they had not time to do toddlers, or even teens in different heights, i equally suspected there wouldn't have been enough time to flesh out or add depth to the game for the emotion. So what emotions have become are glorified moodlets that actually don't do anything new, tactile, or intuitive.
So this emotion system was doomed from the beginning. 1 1/2 years was never enough time to get the game out. This isn't a solid foundation, for the emotion system or the game. The game doesn't seem to be able to build the connects needed through the traits, and emotions to the environment because of the lack of other content.
Maybe I misinterpreted what I saw but I watched that video a couple times and payed attention to the background to see if I would notice the clipping and stuff people are talking about.. it looked to me like there were sims standing there observing the fight but not cheering or anything. IF that is what happened, I personally find that to be more realistic anyway. If not then oh well it doesn't really bother me really as I don't tend to use the fight interaction anyway and I don't think I will notice one way or another. The clipping though! That I did see! Didn't bother me but I definitely saw it.
You can really tell the people in here who are stretching their real life exposures to fights to justify their dislike of this game
And we can tell you just try to spin anything into positivity as if you were paid to do so.
The new emotions and smartness aren't all they are cracked up to be.
I actually have it pre-ordered, you just aren't making any sense. Seriously if you're living in an area with that much maturity I want to move there, I hate that stuff xD
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They may not all jump up and gather in a circle around the fight (though we all did that as teenagers) but there is always one idiot who will, always one who shouts "fiiiiigggggght"
Just curious but where do you live? Never in my adult life have I heard someone shout "fiiiiiiggggghhhhhhtttt" when people are fighting. As you said yes, that type of stuff happened all the time in school, but that's because kids are immature and thinking fights are "cool."
I'm from Ireland, however I don't care where you are from, every country has douchebags, of all ages. I'd question what fantasy utopia you are living in if you say this never happens...
And certainly no-one sits there not reacting what so ever like they are a bunch of robots...or perhaps you live in Stepford ?
@ the op. I said this before the emotion system would be nothing if they don't program the animations and interactions needed to make it look like an upgrade. Given they had not time to do toddlers, or even teens in different heights, i equally suspected there wouldn't have been enough time to flesh out or add depth to the game for the emotion. So what emotions have become are glorified moodlets that actually don't do anything new, tactile, or intuitive.
So this emotion system was doomed from the beginning. 1 1/2 years was never enough time to get the game out. This isn't a solid foundation, for the emotion system or the game. The game doesn't seem to be able to build the connects needed through the traits, and emotions to the environment because of the lack of other content.
They may not all jump up and gather in a circle around the fight (though we all did that as teenagers) but there is always one idiot who will, always one who shouts "fiiiiigggggght"
Just curious but where do you live? Never in my adult life have I heard someone shout "fiiiiiiggggghhhhhhtttt" when people are fighting. As you said yes, that type of stuff happened all the time in school, but that's because kids are immature and thinking fights are "cool."
I'm from Ireland, however I don't care where you are from, every country has douchebags, of all ages. I'd question what fantasy utopia you are living in if you say this never happens...
And certainly no-one sits there not reacting what so ever like they are a bunch of robots...or perhaps you live in Stepford ?
Certainly a sim with a bro or evil trait would at least glance at it.
They may not all jump up and gather in a circle around the fight (though we all did that as teenagers) but there is always one idiot who will, always one who shouts "fiiiiigggggght"
Just curious but where do you live? Never in my adult life have I heard someone shout "fiiiiiiggggghhhhhhtttt" when people are fighting. As you said yes, that type of stuff happened all the time in school, but that's because kids are immature and thinking fights are "cool."
I'm from Ireland, however I don't care where you are from, every country has douchebags, of all ages. I'd question what fantasy utopia you are living in if you say this never happens...
And certainly no-one sits there not reacting what so ever like they are a bunch of robots...or perhaps you live in Stepford ?
Funny cause earlier 2 other people said they were from Ireland and they both said people just walk right on by fights in Ireland.
So I guess everyone notices fights differently then huh
Yeah... the people were just sitting there as if the two people in a fight were ghosts... So much for smart intuitive, emotional sims. Since that is basically their only selling point I don't know how this game is going to succeed. I thought the whole point of scaling back the graphics and eliminating open world was to allow for smart, spontaneous sims each with their own mind. They regressed all aspects of the sims only to deliver the same dumb sims that sit there unaware of their surroundings.
Well said.
There are some sims just sitting there but at 22.22 you see a sim in a blue sweater get off the couch. She's out of view of the camera but at 22.52 she appears on camera again with another sim and they look like they had been watching the fight the whole time.
Thank you I was beginning to wonder if some others actually watched the video or just taking picture at face value. I would have
liked more "action" myself but saying there was no reaction was incorrect. What I saw on that video is different than what is being portrayed here by that screenshot.
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They were too busy to notice it...HAVING FUN.
Joe needs to get out more, a fight always breaks out in a bar, somewhere, some how.
Just curious but where do you live? Never in my adult life have I heard someone shout "fiiiiiiggggghhhhhhtttt" when people are fighting. As you said yes, that type of stuff happened all the time in school, but that's because kids are immature and thinking fights are "cool."
Well said.
Wouldn't you fear getting hit when people are fighting literally a foot away from you?
LOL, really Joe you are so insulated from the real world it seems. People do scream fight, or at least the buz goes around the bar, many people stop what they are doing, run over and watch, or get up in their seat to see above the commotion to see what is happening. The Sims not responding to this fight in the game shows they don't give a hoot just like the unresponsive TS3 Sim. So, sorry saying these Sims are smarter is just a farce.
There are some sims just sitting there but at 22.22 you see a sim in a blue sweater get off the couch. She's out of view of the camera but at 22.52 she appears on camera again with another sim and they look like they had been watching the fight the whole time.
I'm going to guess the "most" that form a ring are the ones that are drunk?
Or the ones just barely old enough to drink?
You're right, maybe I just don't hang around enough bars filled with immature people I guess. I'm so sheltered
"Hey cool! Some guy is getting his face punched in! Let's watch and cheer the other guy on!"
-squint- Where do you live? I want to move there because I'm surrounded by adults like that xD
Seriously though do you go out much? I don't and I've still seen it. Adults are immature too, especially when they go out to drink. Let's be real here.
And we can tell you just try to spin anything into positivity as if you were paid to do so.
The new emotions and smartness aren't all they are cracked up to be.
So this emotion system was doomed from the beginning. 1 1/2 years was never enough time to get the game out. This isn't a solid foundation, for the emotion system or the game. The game doesn't seem to be able to build the connects needed through the traits, and emotions to the environment because of the lack of other content.
I actually have it pre-ordered, you just aren't making any sense. Seriously if you're living in an area with that much maturity I want to move there, I hate that stuff xD
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& the gif is telling you that. the dog doesn't get the frisbee like you don't get the joke..ha..ha...?
I'm from Ireland, however I don't care where you are from, every country has douchebags, of all ages. I'd question what fantasy utopia you are living in if you say this never happens...
And certainly no-one sits there not reacting what so ever like they are a bunch of robots...or perhaps you live in Stepford ?
Voice of reason.
Certainly a sim with a bro or evil trait would at least glance at it.
Funny cause earlier 2 other people said they were from Ireland and they both said people just walk right on by fights in Ireland.
So I guess everyone notices fights differently then huh
Thank you I was beginning to wonder if some others actually watched the video or just taking picture at face value. I would have
liked more "action" myself but saying there was no reaction was incorrect. What I saw on that video is different than what is being portrayed here by that screenshot.