Okay so teens are as tall as Y/A, adults, and elders, and elders are basically just adults with grey hair. If you look at Gladys, she's not even hunched over! (Though this means elders don't look all scrawny) and do elders even have wrinkles?
The only life stages that totally aren't knock offs of a different life stage are Child and Baby, but we haven't even seen babies yet, so this worries me. :?
What are your thoughts?
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xD! This is great.
But in response to the OP, yeah, when you put it like that, it just goes to show how much has been cut away. I have to wonder how each stage is going to seem unique and distinct.
The teen to elder looking the same is just laziness on EA's part.
So yes 2 life stages ...kid and all else.
Sad state of affairs...just shameful.
Obviously,
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Height is not the only thing that differentiates between life stages. What interactions are available, what responsibilities they have, and appearance among other things all factor in. Yes the fact that teens are the same height as young adults is annoying but it doesn't mean they are no longer fully separate life stages.
On top of this Graham has already said that teens will be different in appearance as well so there is some physical difference.
He was EAing it, basically saying some random stuff after but to make us not hate them too much Not only are they the same height but they all look the same, except for elders who have grey hair. Which make me wonder if they can even change their hair colour :shock:
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By having "pudgier" faces and slimmer waists??? :roll:
Sorry not sorry, but it's obvious that they ran out of time or are just lazy.
And for the first thing you said, they have yet to actually show the different interactions that you're talking about.
I'm excited about teens though... but i do hope we get separete clothes for them a lot of people well actually the few people who think this game is promising say that this is cool cause this means that clothes wont be limited... but to me that means that we have less to pick from. So I'm really hoping they won't dress the same. For me the biggest loss life stage wise was the no toddler thing...
Exactly..and what they say and what they show are two different things.
Get rid of the babyfat in the teens and now ...find the teenage in the crowd.
Also, yes, I do believe they have wrinkles and I also think their posture is different.
For example they might have added 20 shirts in the game but they will be used by anybody from teens to elders. SO there might be no exclusivity anymore with the exception of children.
In real life, teens, young adults, adults, and elders are about the same height. Actually, many teens are taller than people who are currently adults and elders, but they don't have to make them taller for the game to please you, do they?
Those of us who recognize a difference realize that the distinction isn't actually a matter of height.
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I never thought I would find somebody with common sense on this board. You restored my faith.
Anyway, the height also matters if a Sims "Teen" is supposed to be a 14 year old or a 17 year old... Normally the former is shorter than the latter, so I agree that it makes some sense that Teens and Adults would have the same height. But what does that mean about a Sim that is supposed to be 13-14? Is that a Child or a Teen? I think that's a missing link in The Sims, maybe not like Toddlers, but there's not much to do about that
That isn't the problem - the problem is that you can not tell the difference between a Teen, a Young Adult and an Adult IN THE GAME. In real life people can see subtle clues that tell them the age of the person that they are looking at. Since TS4 Sims all look like cartoons there are no subtle clues - there are no clues at all. Take a look at some of the game pictures that we have seen - now pick out the Teens - they are there but you can't tell who they are.
This is why people are upset that Teens are the same height.
And this isn't some nod to 'reality' on EA's part - it is a short cut to minimize the amount of time they spent on the game. Now that Teens are the same height as Young Adults/ Adults they can use the same animations and wear the same clothes - that saves EA a ton of money.
It is the same thing with Elders. While I like that Elders are no longer stooped and decrepit looking, there is literally no difference between them an Teens, Young Adults and Adults - so they don't need their own animations or clothes either - another ton of money saved by EA!
Yet they still charge $60 for the base game despite having taken major shortcuts.
Just because Gladys looks a little 'dumpy' doesn't mean that all Elders will sag or grow fatter - in fact I would bet that they won't. Gladys is dumpy because that is the way the artists at EA molded her body - they could have made her an Adult (or Young Adult or a Teen) with the exact same body shape.
Now do you understand why people are upset?
Edit: We have yet to see Babies or to discover if they are even Sims or just objects like they are in TS1 and TSM. Those who say that 'well, we can feed them' forget that Babies can be feed in those 2 games yet they are STILL only objects.
Face it, making babies back into objects would be another way to save EA money.
Yes, but in a similar way, grab and pull and you can make your sims look different as well. This will be your own choice for any sims you make yourself. Admittedly this won't be the case for npc's but one of the first things I tend to do in my games is going into CAS and change them if their appearance doesn't suit me.
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They look pretty young there.
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Are you saying we should makeover all the sims in our game so we can tell teens from adults?