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Vegetarian meals should be cooked by vegans, not by all
ravynwolvf
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I'm glad you guys put in a vegetarian trait for meals, but having so many vegan choices without them being blocked for meat eaters the same way meat choices are blocked for vegans is really annoying. In other words, why is it that vegans seem to be able to go to the fridge and autonomously choose tofu tacos, but regular meat eating sims can't autonomously choose regular ones? I'm sick of my sim always choosing to cook tofu dogs, faux blts, etc when he's not a vegan. And it makes having a butler less useful as well, since there's no option to choose meal types for him to cook. If you guys are so big on making the game playable for all types of people, how about some love for the average Joes and Jills?
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How many times in my life have I had a tofu hot dog? A faux BLT? There's even a fake lobster recipe, though I don't remember what it's called. But the answer is zero. If he's my sim me, which is how I suspect many simmers play, then he should be autonomously able to eat like me, when vegetarians can have a sim who autonomously eats like them. There's a big difference between eating something without meat one day (which you're calling a vegetarian diet), say a grilled cheese, meatless pasta, or a salad, and choosing to eat something that uses a meat substitute. I didn't say "please set it up so my sim only eats meat". It should be set up so vegetarian sims eat like vegetarians, and non-vegetarians eat like non-vegetarians. And eating meat substitutes isn't a part of an average non-vegetarian person's diet.
Yeah, but that's what I said. Veggie sims don't choose to eat meat, but non-veggie sims choose to eat meat substitute meals. It IS random, but only for non-vegetarian sims. If it can be set one way, it can be set both ways.
Lol. Yes, I've tried to look at it that way. It shouldn't really matter, as you said. But my sim goes to the kitchen to cook, and I'm always too curious what he's chosen to make. Then my ocd gets irritated when it finds he's making tofu cyber dogs instead of pig/cow/turkey/rat parts cyber dogs, and rails at the unfairness of a cyber world where there are lines of code keeping cyber vegetarian's lips from touching cyber meat when my sim's cyber lips are once again touching cyber tofu. Or worse.
And I've tried looking at the recipes as; Veggie burgers, meat patties with green peppers and onions or such. Tofu dogs, meat dogs with tofu enhanced sauerkraut. But it all break down at faux BLTs; what, it's spelled wrong, and it's fox BLTs? No thank you. And fake fish tacos really get me plummed since I'd rather be eating beef ones to begin with.
There may be plenty of recipes but I find that they aren't always very creative.
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They've gotta draw the line somewhere. Next thing, people will be asking them to add vegan, fruitarian, gluten free etc.
With regard to sims autonomous cooking choices; easy answer is don't let them. My sims always cook what I tell them to or don't cook at all
Just because I like a hamburger once in awhile doesn't mean I won't have a salad sometimes, lol.
I'd say it's no more wacky than the vegeterian trait giving your sim an Uncomfortable moodlet if they eat meat.
Amen.
I have a Vegetarian teenager, and her parents are the ones who cook the meals. They're not veggo themselves, so if veggie meals were locked behind the trait, the teen would have to make all her own meals.
That's not realistic, and it'd be incredibly time-consuming to have two sets of meals being made.
Not only that but a old vegetarian child couldn't cook for themselves. Also in rl meat eaters still eat veggie meals all the time and might even eat meals that are completely meat free.
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Indeed. I love hamburgers, but I also love the veggieburgers my wife makes.
They do. Only vegetarian and omni votes exits in game. Idk why up keeps referring to vegan sims.
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But I think non veg sims should not make automously veg good, if is not in their preference, Like in the sims3, even a non vegetarian sim can love a tofu based food.
Not really. It's not like they already autonomously make veggie meals just because their child is a vegetarian, so unless you're directing the parent to always make veggie meals, which I'm not saying should be removed at all from the pie menu dialog or known recipes list, the teen would still have to cook a veggie meal when their parents autonomously grill regular hamburgers. I'm not saying the meals should be locked behind the trait to the point they can't make them at all; I'm only saying the tofu, faux this and that should only autonomously be made by vegetarian sims. It's been my experience that unless the parent has the family trait, they're not usually going to make anything but single meals for the most part anyway, so you have to direct them to make the bigger meals, which could just as easily be veggie based if that was what you wanted.
After all the posting here on this thread, I still haven't seen anyone say "I'm a meat eater and I make tofu hot dogs all the time". Yes, if your wife cooks veggie burgers you eat them, and you may choose to make them because your spouse or child is a vegetarian. So if a sim walks into the kitchen and there's a plate of veggie burgers there, they will probably grab one, which is fine, which is the same thing. But there ain't a heck of a lot of meat eaters that prefer or choose to cook a non-meat version of a usually meat based food (although granted, veggie burgers can be good).
So for the last time, and based on everything that everyone has posted here, I still see no good reason or argument that non-vegetarian sims should AUTONOMOUSLY (and I'm only talking autonomously and not when directed; you want your non veggie sim to make a tofu dog, go for it) make the fake meat version of meals, and I'm ONLY talking about THOSE meals. Which also has nothing to do with pasta, salads, or any other already non-meat anything. or telling your sim parent to make your veggie included family tofu dogs, OR whether or not a sim would eat an already cooked veggie based meal.
Because it's simple. Though the trait itself is called vegetarian, I'm sure it's basically there more or less to appease both vegetarians and vegans as well as it can, so it hardly matters which term is used.
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Someone needs to make a post-apocalyptic mod that includes ratburgers. The Demolition Man and the ever-dwindling populace on 'Threads' would fit right in.
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