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Looking Deeper Into Vampire Powers
Snowie
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Ok! I've done a bit of editing and staring at the vampire powers page EA has given us, and I think we can try to figure out what the powers/weaknesses are, as well as the frequency at which you have to choose weaknesses, and possible further expansion of the powers.
Here's the original photo, for reference (and color)
Next up is my edited image, with labels so we can keep track of which powers and weaknesses everyone is talking about!
Below is my ideas of what the powers are (Bolded text is confirmed powers/weaknesses):
1.a Knowing Sim traits (or occult species).
1.b Turning into a bat. "Bat Form"
1.c Having a reflection.
1.d Vampire doesn't have to be invited into a house.
1.e Turning into mist (note, three levels to this one).
2.a Irresistible--Romance interactions are more successful and are accessible sooner. "Vampiric Charm"
2.b Super Strength. "Vampiric Strength"
2.c "Command" (mind control).
2.d Garlic resistance
2.e Friendliness, maybe?
3.a Daze a Sim.
3.b Gain skills faster at night (similar to TS3).
3.c Knock a Sim out.
3.d Unsure
3.e Drink from sleeping Sims?
4.a Some sort of meditation, maybe it freezes needs while meditating.
4.b "Supernatural speed".
4.c "Deprive Needs"
4.d Sunlight resistance. (Thanks, @luimistelija )
4.e Sparkling in the sunlight.
5.a Looks like it has something to do with the light/dark forms, perhaps switching to dark form doesn't reveal your vampirism to nearby Sims.
5.b Unsure
5.c Unsure
5.d Not sure... it looks a bit like a sun, though.
5.e Looks like a party hat. Maybe it makes parties more successful or unlocks a new party type.
The weaknesses are a bit easier to decipher and there seems to be room for expansion in the box, perhaps adding packs will add to the weaknesses?
w.1 Can only eat plasma OR can only drink from Sims. "Withered Stomach"
w.2 Can't drink from other Sims (Moral Vampire). "Guilty Drinker"
w.3 "Uncontrollable Hissing"
w.4 Increased thirst rate.
w.5 Increased weakness to sunlight/more flammable. "Thin Skinned"
w.6 Can only sleep in coffins. "Sleep of the Dead"
w.7 Can't get a good night's sleep (wake up with a negative moodlet).
w.8 Can't drink anything but plasma maybe?
w.9 Decreased movement speed in sunlight.
w.10 Not sure, maybe they can't cry or cry blood? (That would be a dark twist)
w.11 Everyone is scared of or doesn't want to interact with your Sim--friendly, romantic, mischief, and funny interactions are less likely to succeed.
To me, the weaknesses also seem to be things that would be picked up by other Sims as "vampire" traits, which means Sims will discover that someone is a vampire (this happens with aliens too, but it's far less in-depth). So talking long enough to someone with the hissing trait may reveal you as a vampire, along with a couple others.
NOW, we get to the math. The vampire Sim here has 7 powers unlocked, with 12 points left over. She has three weaknesses, and has to take two more for a total of 5. Note that the level 1 powers cost 2 points each, level 2 costs 3, and so on. Based on this, the level 5 powers would cost 6 points.
Guess 1: You take a weakness for every power selected past the first level of vampirism (1.a-1.e).
Guess 2: You take a weakness for every 5 power points spent (this vampire is currently at 24 points spent)
Lastly, it appears the weaknesses unlock with the power level. So a level 1 vampire can only have w.1-w.3. I would also guess that the power points are gained by doing vampire actions, and maybe passively during the night. If you gain points passively, they're likely not linked directly to vampire level--so you can have 200 power points, but still be level 1 (in theory).
Those are my thoughts on what we've been given on vampire powers! Any blanks you can fill in, or if you have a better image to reference, please comment below!
Here's the original photo, for reference (and color)
Next up is my edited image, with labels so we can keep track of which powers and weaknesses everyone is talking about!
Below is my ideas of what the powers are (Bolded text is confirmed powers/weaknesses):
1.a Knowing Sim traits (or occult species).
1.b Turning into a bat. "Bat Form"
1.c Having a reflection.
1.d Vampire doesn't have to be invited into a house.
1.e Turning into mist (note, three levels to this one).
2.a Irresistible--Romance interactions are more successful and are accessible sooner. "Vampiric Charm"
2.b Super Strength. "Vampiric Strength"
2.c "Command" (mind control).
2.d Garlic resistance
2.e Friendliness, maybe?
3.a Daze a Sim.
3.b Gain skills faster at night (similar to TS3).
3.c Knock a Sim out.
3.d Unsure
3.e Drink from sleeping Sims?
4.a Some sort of meditation, maybe it freezes needs while meditating.
4.b "Supernatural speed".
4.c "Deprive Needs"
4.d Sunlight resistance. (Thanks, @luimistelija )
4.e Sparkling in the sunlight.
5.a Looks like it has something to do with the light/dark forms, perhaps switching to dark form doesn't reveal your vampirism to nearby Sims.
5.b Unsure
5.c Unsure
5.d Not sure... it looks a bit like a sun, though.
5.e Looks like a party hat. Maybe it makes parties more successful or unlocks a new party type.
The weaknesses are a bit easier to decipher and there seems to be room for expansion in the box, perhaps adding packs will add to the weaknesses?
w.1 Can only eat plasma OR can only drink from Sims. "Withered Stomach"
w.2 Can't drink from other Sims (Moral Vampire). "Guilty Drinker"
w.3 "Uncontrollable Hissing"
w.4 Increased thirst rate.
w.5 Increased weakness to sunlight/more flammable. "Thin Skinned"
w.6 Can only sleep in coffins. "Sleep of the Dead"
w.7 Can't get a good night's sleep (wake up with a negative moodlet).
w.8 Can't drink anything but plasma maybe?
w.9 Decreased movement speed in sunlight.
w.10 Not sure, maybe they can't cry or cry blood? (That would be a dark twist)
w.11 Everyone is scared of or doesn't want to interact with your Sim--friendly, romantic, mischief, and funny interactions are less likely to succeed.
To me, the weaknesses also seem to be things that would be picked up by other Sims as "vampire" traits, which means Sims will discover that someone is a vampire (this happens with aliens too, but it's far less in-depth). So talking long enough to someone with the hissing trait may reveal you as a vampire, along with a couple others.
NOW, we get to the math. The vampire Sim here has 7 powers unlocked, with 12 points left over. She has three weaknesses, and has to take two more for a total of 5. Note that the level 1 powers cost 2 points each, level 2 costs 3, and so on. Based on this, the level 5 powers would cost 6 points.
Guess 1: You take a weakness for every power selected past the first level of vampirism (1.a-1.e).
Guess 2: You take a weakness for every 5 power points spent (this vampire is currently at 24 points spent)
Lastly, it appears the weaknesses unlock with the power level. So a level 1 vampire can only have w.1-w.3. I would also guess that the power points are gained by doing vampire actions, and maybe passively during the night. If you gain points passively, they're likely not linked directly to vampire level--so you can have 200 power points, but still be level 1 (in theory).
Those are my thoughts on what we've been given on vampire powers! Any blanks you can fill in, or if you have a better image to reference, please comment below!
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These are confirmed powers shown in the latest trailer:
1B. Bat Form
2A. Vampiric Charm
2B. Vampiric Strength
2C. Command
4B. Supernatural Speed
W1. Withered Stomach
W2. Guilty Drinker
W3. Uncontrollable Hissing
W5. Thin Skinned
W6. Sleep Of The Dead
These are my guesses and my guesses only:
1A. Mind Reader
1C. Duel
1D. Always Welcome
2D. Garlic Resistant
2E. Guilt Free Drinker
3A. Mesmerize
3C. Put To Sleep
4A. Dark Meditation
4D. Day Walker
W4. Water Phobic
Walk In The Mist and Occult Student have been mentioned, but I don't see an icon that would fit. They may be on level 5.
Updated with Werewolf Diaries (1)
@Dannydanbo yeah those seem about right actually. I guess 1E could indeed be the walk in mist thing though like @Snowie suggested. Can't imagine it being one of the higher powers, but I'm not sure.
My Mood:
The ones in the trailer show the icon as they show the power or weakness. The icon they show for Walk In The Mist is a figure in a cloud similar to the Bat Form icon. However, that icon in the trailer may be a second level for Walk In The Mist, so 1E could be the first level. I don't know why they would change icons, that could confuse people.
I got the idea that it may be possible to eventually obtain all the powers which would include all the weaknesses, too.
This, but there are some powers which are incompatible with some weaknesses (ex: thin-skinned and sunproof). You could see it in some stills of the trailer.
From my understanding you can get (nearly) every power, but still have to pick weaknesses and some of them conflict. Sorta like traits, you can't be evil and good at the same time. I'd be willing to bet you passively unlock interactions etc just from leveling up the vampire, even if you don't take any powers. For example, I bet dueling becomes unlocked at level 2 or 3.
This would be a really cool mod, you would have to use the dark form as the wolf form, and maybe find some way to make it so your Sims transform into it at night? The mod would need a lot of CC body hair and werewolf-y teeth, face parts, etc. Kinda difficult though, as the modder would likely have to re-do all the coding that tells the powers/weaknesses what to do, since they mostly don't make sense for a werewolf. I can see it being possible, though
Honestly I'm not a huge vampire fan (I'm on the witches train), but this is the best I've ever seen the vampires done in Sims and it bodes well for future supernaturals. Frankly I don't care if every supernatural type comes in a GP by itself, if it means they're gonna be this well fleshed-out. I really like that they added the system that makes other Sims "figure out" if you're an alien/vampire, because now Sims will have reactions to discovering her boyfriend is a bloodsucking vampire who might kill her in her sleep
Nah, I don't need any mods xD I was indeed planning to make a vampire with a normal form and dark form. I'll make the normal form look as normal as possible, and the dark will obviously look like a lycan. I've already made a pretty great "werewolf" Sim, but with the new CAS features for vamps (pointed ears and such) I'm sure I can make an even better one! But yeah, still kinda stumped with figuring out powers and weaknesses for the wereSim...
Thanks for doing this (I forgot to say that the first time). Based on the new clip, you can add 4C. Deprive Needs. (if you want to be accurate, the names I gave you are the actual confirmed names according to the trailers, if you want to be accurate.) (sorry, my OCD is kicking in, thanks again.)
Oh! I meant to do that (I did with the weaknesses), OP is edited to add it. I agree with @luimistelija that 4d. is likely resistance to sunlight or being sunproof so I've added it to the OP as well
I agree it doesn't really give an advantage, but it plays nicely with a vampire who's trying to pass as human. I'd guess if a Sim took a picture with/of a vampire, they wouldn't show up in the picture and the photographer would then know they're a vampire. I tend to play my Sims like introverts so being able to talk to your reflection would be cool too