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Were You Upset by the Lack of a Witch Hat in Realm of Magic?

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    DannydanboDannydanbo Posts: 18,057 Member
    No, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't fit the style of Realm of Magic.
    We have a classic witch hat from the Spooky pack. RoM was about magic, not witches.
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    FaeChaiFaeChai Posts: 87 Member
    No, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't fit the style of Realm of Magic.
    I don't normally use hats so I'm too bothered by it. I was surprised that they didn't include one but it's whatever.
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    EvilWitch83EvilWitch83 Posts: 140 Member
    I'm upset, but not as upset as the above.
    I am a bit upset about it but I have found some cc ones to use when I buy realm of magic.
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    RavenSpitRavenSpit Posts: 1,387 Member
    No, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't fit the style of Realm of Magic.
    I guess it's weird that no classical witch or wizard hat was included, but I don't mind actually since I tend to play more modern/gothic spellcasters, also I got the witch hat from the spooky pack.
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    MagdaleenaMagdaleena Posts: 973 Member
    edited October 2019
    YES I AM UPSET WHERE IS MY WITCH HAT!?
    YES!!!!!! WHERE IS IT!!!!!!

    I like hats too much to have a lukewarm opinion on this, okay. Where the heck is my witch hat???????

    The one we got in spooky stuff looks too fake and costumey. I was looking for something that actually matched the pack. Please. I shouldn't have to use CC to fill in the void for a classic magic item such as this.
    I mean, I do have multiple CC hats, but I'm still mad.

    We're also missing wizard robes and capes and all that fun stuff, which makes me wish I knew how to rip stuff from Sims Medieval, since really, that's what I'm actually looking for here. This is a magic pack, so I expect witch/wizard stuff alongside all the other fun stuff they added.

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    DannydanboDannydanbo Posts: 18,057 Member
    No, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't fit the style of Realm of Magic.
    Fake and costumey? Do you honestly think that any real witch at anytime, anywhere ever wore a wide brimmed pointy hat? Those ARE the costumes that someone made up a century ago. Most witches were depicted as old hags in rags. No broom. No pointy hat.

    P.S. They don't cast spells by wiggling their noses either.
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    DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 3,355 Member
    No, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't fit the style of Realm of Magic.
    There are three different theories on the origin of the "witch's hat."

    All have to do with accusing an innocent group of being in league with the forces of evil.

    (and witches are only green in pop culture because of MGM's Wizard of Oz movie - the green looked best in Technicolor. In the original books, her skin color isn't mentioned at all.)
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    Jon the WizardJon the Wizard Posts: 268 Member
    YES I AM UPSET WHERE IS MY WITCH HAT!?
    Yeah, where's my witch hat, blast it?!
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    GrumpyGlowfishGrumpyGlowfish Posts: 2,208 Member
    I did notice the lack of witch hats, and think it would have been fitting for the theme, but wasn't upset because I also have Spooky Stuff and a few cc hats.
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    issynoonaissynoona Posts: 10 New Member
    YES I AM UPSET WHERE IS MY WITCH HAT!?
    a classic witch hat should have been there because its a basic...
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    kateoverendkateoverend Posts: 7,985 Member
    Witch hats are a waste of resources and I'm HAPPY they weren't included.
    I downloaded a version of the Halloween hat without the spider from TSR and I love it! :)
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    GoldmoldarGoldmoldar Posts: 11,966 Member
    edited October 2019
    I'm upset, but not as upset as the above.
    Witch hats has been with witches since the lore began as well as the cauldrons, they are portrayed in movies such as Wizard of OZ, Hocus Pocus and the list goes on. I am not raging mad that EA/Maxis could not even make one. I sort of expected something like this would happen in Sims 4 as most of the packs lack something or another. Yes, it should have been an option but options are becoming less and less with this game. so sad. :(
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    MagdaleenaMagdaleena Posts: 973 Member
    YES I AM UPSET WHERE IS MY WITCH HAT!?
    Dannydanbo wrote: »
    Fake and costumey? Do you honestly think that any real witch at anytime, anywhere ever wore a wide brimmed pointy hat? Those ARE the costumes that someone made up a century ago. Most witches were depicted as old hags in rags. No broom. No pointy hat.

    P.S. They don't cast spells by wiggling their noses either.

    I meant the style of the spooky stuff witch hats. Thought that was obvious. They look like they're made out of cheap costume materials. They're overly saturated. There's a plastic spider hanging off them. They don't fit.

    I just wanted something that matches the overall pack. Like gee, I'm sorry I just happen to like wide brimmed pointy hats, and expected to get some actual good-looking matchy ones in a pack about magic. 😒

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    Rae357Rae357 Posts: 922 Member
    No, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't fit the style of Realm of Magic.
    It doesn't both me because I have the witch costume plus hat from the Spooky pack.
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    OldeseadoggeOldeseadogge Posts: 5,000 Member
    No, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't fit the style of Realm of Magic.
    Why duplicate what is already in the game from other packs? Besides, while witches are spell casters, spell casters are not necessarily witches.
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    NevonaNevona Posts: 32 Member
    No, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't fit the style of Realm of Magic.
    I'm not upset, which hats are so 19th century
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    friendlysimmersfriendlysimmers Posts: 7,546 Member
    Witch hats are a waste of resources and I'm HAPPY they weren't included.
    there a waste so happy they where not put in the game
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    marcel21marcel21 Posts: 12,341 Member
    of course not.
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    GoldmoldarGoldmoldar Posts: 11,966 Member
    I'm upset, but not as upset as the above.
    Why duplicate what is already in the game from other packs? Besides, while witches are spell casters, spell casters are not necessarily witches.

    Yeah forgot about the Spooky SP but as Witches wore hats so did most of the Spellcasters such as Wizards, Sorcerers, etc however over time the lore was forgotten and most adapted what is current now.
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    DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 3,355 Member
    No, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't fit the style of Realm of Magic.
    Goldmoldar wrote: »
    Why duplicate what is already in the game from other packs? Besides, while witches are spell casters, spell casters are not necessarily witches.

    Yeah forgot about the Spooky SP but as Witches wore hats so did most of the Spellcasters such as Wizards, Sorcerers, etc however over time the lore was forgotten and most adapted what is current now.

    The lore starting from when? The Alewife theory of Witches' hats is the oldest I can find, and it dates from roughly the 12th century... but wise women/Wicce and women accused of witchcraft predates that (there's even one in the Bible, provided the translators understood the word correctly.)

    Many depictions of Circe, Morgan leFay, Medea, etc - and even Merlin - don't have pointy hats - or any hats. And this includes art made *after* associating witches with pointy hats became a thing.

    So for the modern Spellcaster, the hat is a fashion choice - Just as it always was.
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    catloverplayercatloverplayer Posts: 93,395 Member
    No, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't fit the style of Realm of Magic.
    No because Spooky Stuff comes with Witch Hats.
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    MasonGamerMasonGamer Posts: 8,851 Member
    No, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't fit the style of Realm of Magic.
    Nevona wrote: »
    I'm not upset, which hats are so 19th century

    Not even, 13th century.
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    GoldmoldarGoldmoldar Posts: 11,966 Member
    edited October 2019
    I'm upset, but not as upset as the above.
    DaWaterRat wrote: »
    Goldmoldar wrote: »
    Why duplicate what is already in the game from other packs? Besides, while witches are spell casters, spell casters are not necessarily witches.

    Yeah forgot about the Spooky SP but as Witches wore hats so did most of the Spellcasters such as Wizards, Sorcerers, etc however over time the lore was forgotten and most adapted what is current now.

    The lore starting from when? The Alewife theory of Witches' hats is the oldest I can find, and it dates from roughly the 12th century... but wise women/Wicce and women accused of witchcraft predates that (there's even one in the Bible, provided the translators understood the word correctly.)

    Many depictions of Circe, Morgan leFay, Medea, etc - and even Merlin - don't have pointy hats - or any hats. And this includes art made *after* associating witches with pointy hats became a thing.

    So for the modern Spellcaster, the hat is a fashion choice - Just as it always was.

    For me there is no specific date but lore goes way back maybe before the 12th century as many have an different ideas and it can be influenced by books, TV, radio and also game development. You may think Merlin does not have an pointy hat and someone else may think so because all said Merlin is not real. I get what you saying as I seen an lot of deviating like Vampires Sparkling(forgot the movie as I was never drawn to it) and I dislike it but that may because I read seen an lot of movies depicting vampirism before that movie was made. Some are tend to be sentimental about the exact description because that is what one was used to seeing. Lore can be found in fiction and non fiction and technically one is not wrong or right. Of course it is the choice of each player if they wish the hat or not to have the hat and again lore goes way back in time.
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    DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 3,355 Member
    No, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't fit the style of Realm of Magic.
    Goldmoldar wrote: »
    DaWaterRat wrote: »
    Goldmoldar wrote: »
    Why duplicate what is already in the game from other packs? Besides, while witches are spell casters, spell casters are not necessarily witches.

    Yeah forgot about the Spooky SP but as Witches wore hats so did most of the Spellcasters such as Wizards, Sorcerers, etc however over time the lore was forgotten and most adapted what is current now.

    The lore starting from when? The Alewife theory of Witches' hats is the oldest I can find, and it dates from roughly the 12th century... but wise women/Wicce and women accused of witchcraft predates that (there's even one in the Bible, provided the translators understood the word correctly.)

    Many depictions of Circe, Morgan leFay, Medea, etc - and even Merlin - don't have pointy hats - or any hats. And this includes art made *after* associating witches with pointy hats became a thing.

    So for the modern Spellcaster, the hat is a fashion choice - Just as it always was.

    For me there is no specific date but lore goes way back maybe before the 12th century as many have an different ideas and it can be influenced by books, TV, radio and also game development. You may think Merlin does not have an pointy hat and someone else may think so because all said Merlin is not real. I get what you saying as I seen an lot of deviating like Vampires Sparkling(forgot the movie as I was never drawn to it) and I dislike it but that may because I read seen an lot of movies depicting vampirism before that movie was made. Some are tend to be sentimental about the exact description because that is what one was used to seeing. Lore can be found in fiction and non fiction and technically one is not wrong or right. Of course it is the choice of each player if they wish the hat or not to have the hat and again lore goes way back in time.

    The lore does go back a long time, well before the 12th century, you're right about that.

    The Pointed Hat specifically being a "witch" thing does not. It's 1) a specifically European thing (many cultures have people we would classify as "witches" who don't have pointed hats - at least no more than anyone else in their culture does.) and 2) does not exist in artwork or other cultural depictions of witches until around the Renaissance. Again - at least not as a specifically "witch" thing.

    I'm sure no one thought the Witch of Endor (from 1 Samuel, ch 28 of the Bible) had a pointy hat until sometime after the King James Bible was translated. (Heck, on the wikipedia page about her, none of the artwork - dates ranging from late 1500's to 1857 - has her with a pointy hat. She's always wearing what contemporaries of the artist thought people wore in biblical times.)

    Most of our modern images of Witches are solidly because of the Wizard of Oz movie, which is 1939. Pointed hats have been part of the lore for a long time, to be sure, but it hasn't "always" been there "from the beginning." The earliest theory I can find where pointed hats were specifically associated with witches is the 12th century.

    Witches are far, far older than that. Pointed hats have not been part of the lore "from the beginning."
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    DannydanboDannydanbo Posts: 18,057 Member
    No, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't fit the style of Realm of Magic.
    I'm upset by the fact that players want witches hats in a pack about magic, not witches.
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