I am just curious why most of you are disappointed in the new expansion pack?
I am completely confused with the disappointed as most of you said you would like a 'late night' expansion pack but now you are disappointed?
Yes most of you want 'toddlers' which completes the life simulation, but I guarantee you once they are released, they are not going to be exciting as you thought it would be, it would just be the same gameplay as the sims 3. Before you start complaining 'they haven't added toddlers', ask yourself.... since when did EA say that they were going to announce it today? The sims 4 is only just the beginning, you just need to give the game developers time, they will released family play. Keep in mind that generation expansion pack in the sims 3 was the 5th or 6th expansion pack, idk. We are only on expansion pack 2.... not 12, only 2. Patience simmers!
I would like to hear your opinions and please tell me why you are disappointed then maybe I will understand why.
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I lost the love of TS4 long ago, I do enjoy the forum game though.
How can you guarantee most players won't be happy if/when toddlers are released? What do you know that we don't?!!
What is it with giving them time? Haven't they been working on it and reasearching it for years? Is this a complete and new game?
Do I need to be lectured today? ... wait, I probably do. XD
I wish people would look through threads in all cases, not only this one and start off multiple threads on the same topics. As a well known website says "Search moar!"
I'm not disappointed due to lack of toddlers. I do fine without them, thankyouverymuch. I'm disappointed because this pack feeds into the same juvenile bro-humor/bro-culture that has been obvious since the first play-throughs. Who knows, I may get it somewhere down the road, but for now I'll stick with what I've got. It just doesn't appeal to me.
That said, I'm glad there are people it does appeal to, and I wish you much happiness playing it.
When they released the GTW trailer, it was clear and you can see essentially what the pack would focus on but this one feels like a mishmash. Im still confused as to what we will be getting for the $40 they are asking for it.
That said, I wasn't really expecting it this time.. because, well.. fool me once, EA. Still, I am disappointed with this EP.. primarily because it feels like a mash of unrelated game play together as one. They want to introduce this gorgeous european town, and rather than take advantage of any european culture.. they instead want to throw a huge party/rave in the ruins, introduce a dj booth and new dances.. and some new woohoo areas.
They missed a really great opportunity here. Gondolas.. wine/'juice' making, markets.. It just doesn't seem to fit together, and almost feels like an afterthought for an EP.
But that's just my two cents.
At the moment TS4 feels hugely imbalanced , swinging towards the YA party style kind of play and refusing to cater to the families and children
After a year you'd think EA would have balanced this game out a bit , the fact they arent proves they dont give a ****
It was like the sims 3, a lot of you want seasons and pets, maybe thats why they produced really easy expansion packs to released from the start while they start developing other games that are harder like seasons. That explains why seasons was one of the last.
When I saw the cool kitchen stuff pack I immediately convinced myself that we were getting late night EP with sims 2 style restaurants.
You never know, it may unexpected appear from another expansion pack or may never be there but something better. Who knows!
But with this new pack I can't really tell what they are trying to focus on, what these key features are. There is one new world (which I do find beautiful) and that's pretty much it. You can dance and have parties and drink coffee? I've already done that, I'm already bored of it, so no thanks.
You're absolutely right @Finbar659 when you say the more complex expansions like Pets and Seasons came later and that's understandable. We know they are complex and require time, worth waiting for if it's done well and with the love and humour we've seen over the years. I'm not seeing a huge amount of love for the sims franchise with this latest announcement, I see something churned out to try and generate some revenue. Just my opinion!
I'm disappointed because it doesn't add anything to the game that I've been missing; such as toddlers or family play. Plus, the trailer doesn't do the EP any justice either. If it wasn't for the new world, it would like the same old parties we currently have. Maxis really missed the mark with this one.
I'm disappointed because I expected more balance by now. I don't necessarily have a problem with a Nightlife-themed EP. But the focus has overwhelmingly been for the Single YA bro partying sim. There should have been clear answers for the toddler life stage by now. They teased us with the possibility of adding them back at some point. They're intelligent folks, they should understand that there's a time limit before people get fed up and leave. "Exploring that option" doesn't cut it. I'm beginning to feel like they made those statements last summer to keep people from cancelling their pre-orders.
I'm also disappointed because we're almost a year into the game's release, and we're still missing what I'd consider fundamental base gameplay. I never expected seasons, pets, vacations, etc. right away. I expected a solid base. They gave reasons for why the base wasn't solid, but seemed to give intentions that they would dedicate themselves to improving the base as time went on. I believed them at first, when we received the patches for more careers, ghosts & pools. I expected toddlers would be next because it made sense to me. But now it's as if they did a 180. They're not talking to us about toddlers, when there's quite a few of us who consider the life stage essential for a solid base (along with real sim babies, not objects).
There comes a point where a person's tolerance and patience wears out. I've reached that point, and from what I read it seems like many other family play fans feel the same way.
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I partly understand and partly don't understand your opinion. What do you mean by making it 'worse and worse' To me I see improvements such as the get to work expansion pack which you never get non rabbit holes workplaces in the entire sims series. The free updates such as ghosts and pools. Don't forget the dishwashers that are coming soon.
I understand that most simmers feel like EA isn't listening as I know a lot of them wants toddlers and family play. Yeah they should be working on toddlers from the beginning but you never know, they could be developing toddlers right now as they need plenty of time focusing on it instead of releasing a glitchy unfinished toddler. The family play wasnt great in the sims 3 base game either, it took like a good few expansion packs to get generations. It will probably be the same for the sims 4, maybe we have to wait for another 3 or 4 expansion packs.
People have constantly voiced against linear gameplay that offered little to no freedom. What do they do? They release Get To Work, which mainly consists of 3 careers where you HAVE to complete interactions on a checklist to progress.
People constantly voice against young adult, single Sim gameplay, and want more family play in TS4. What do they do? They release an EP centered ALL around young adult, single Sims.
Thats what I'm getting at -- they do their own thing and do not take the overwhelming amount of feedback that their fans give them to try and make this a better game.