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What does it take for Sims 4 to be finished?
StrawberryYogurt
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Some comments I see say we arent ready for Sims 5 since Sims 4 "isn't finished" despite the 6 year time span (much longer than previous iterations).
I personally am ready to move on to Sims 5. In my opinion, what I see wrong with Sims 4 cannot be 'fixed' with more expansions or packs.
What do you think needs to happen before Sims 5 is introduced?
Do you think Sims 4 can be fixed? How long do you think is necessary?
This discussion is for people who believe Sims 4 needs some added content or changes for it to satisfy them, not people who already satisfied with the game.
I personally am ready to move on to Sims 5. In my opinion, what I see wrong with Sims 4 cannot be 'fixed' with more expansions or packs.
What do you think needs to happen before Sims 5 is introduced?
Do you think Sims 4 can be fixed? How long do you think is necessary?
This discussion is for people who believe Sims 4 needs some added content or changes for it to satisfy them, not people who already satisfied with the game.
The Sims has currently lost its identity. Bring it back for TS5
Personality,depth,humor,consequences,lore,customization.
Personality,depth,humor,consequences,lore,customization.
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1. Nonmutual relationships
2. Free babies
3. Preschoolers/Preteens
4. More family relationships recognized
5. Hotels
6. Just more fun themed packs (alpine world, generations etc)
7. Tweaking of mourning system
If the game was to end tomorrow, I'd be content with how it is and play it for many more years, def. would not get Sims 5, Sims 4 is fantastic and no need to pay over again...
However, the more the better, and I'd be even happier if it continued for another 5 years just getting more packs.
http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/924539/features-that-needs-depth-and-ways-to-improve
I say other than that....it's quite done and complete...time to move on to TS5.
Second there are so much themes they could dive into and i think Eco Lifestyle was a big step in this direction, giving Sims (and players) more things to do and experience ingame. Also, more Occult Sims that go for more than looks, using skilltree development like the Vampires or Get Famous, that actually make sense (ability/weaknesses, motives).
Imho the most important point is to continuously improve the general gameplay mechanics, get rid of the weaknesses the game is still showing from the early release of the base game. What would Sims 5 improve? Optics? Engine? Content? Cars because of open World?
What is the worth of that, if it - again - would deal with the gameplay mechanics weaknesses we had at the start of Sims 4. And again years of waiting for specific content, we now already have (at least to some extent). A new roadmap for Sims 5 stretching over years and with which priorities? Saying "Sims 5 will surely have this and that and then some of the things i always wanted right with the base game" is shooting for luck in a big way.
If it doesn't? Years of complaints, same as it has been with Sims 4 now. No thanks, i really prefer them working on and improving this iteration of the game at least for the next couple of years. There is no "done" until new things won't fit in or work with the present engine anymore.
For my part i can do without open world or cars, if i want to drive around i go and play GTA or similar games, where buildings are more cosmetics than anything else, except for story critical locations. And i surely don't need an online feature as Sims 5 might also have. I enjoy spending time in my "own little world"
That's my 2 cent on the topic.
2. More gameplay for Children, Teens, and Elders (either as patches or GP's).
3. Unnatural hair colors for Children and Toddlers.
4. Burglars and Cop NPC's.
5. Paintable ceilings and spiral staircases.
6. Bikes that Children can actually ride.
7. Cars.
And that's the bare minimum of features added that would allow me to feel satisfied that TS4 is actually finished. It's not a huge list, folks. I'm not talking about a freaking farm, or even fixing the balance on the emotion system. It's just a handful of missing features that the game feels really incomplete without. Finish out this basic content, and I'll have no problem with them moving on to TS5. I'll be watching Paralives' development instead, thanks to all the talk about TS5 being a massively multiplayer online affair. Anyone yearning for TS5 should be watching that game instead too, since EA clearly has no appreciation for longtime simmers and is more concerned with chasing 12-year-old Suzie's birthday money...
- Werewolves! I would also like fairies, hybrids, updated ghosts, and underwater gameplay for mermaids, but werewolves are a must. My game will always feel incomplete without them as a worthy rival for my vampires.
- Improved personalities, relationships, and interactions.
- Improved romance (I really miss my couples cuddling in bed and slow dancing) and weddings.
- Free babies and more gameplay for toddlers, children, teens, and elders.
- Horses with a horse riding skill and racing events.
- More musical instruments e.g. upright pianos, lutes, harps etc. and bands.
- More hobbies e.g. origami, embroidery etc.
- Random objects like exercise bikes, dumbbells, tea sets etc.
- Hotels and rented holiday homes.
- More worlds based on different parts of our world. I would especially like something that feels a little more like my home in the UK and something Mediterranean inspired.
- More 'every day' careers and playable NPC careers e.g. librarian, repairman etc.
- Cars and carpools.
- Burglar and police NPCs.
...and a lot more that I'm probably forgetting, but these are the first things that come to mind.
The Sims need a fracking Fear emotion and personal fears and phobias. I'm just constantly astounded that more people haven't noticed this huge gap in the emotion system. It's killin' me.
And yeah, personalities of course. Traits that actually dictate behaviors. A trait overhaul.
How about Aspirations that actually make sense, not just a replacement for the abandoned whims? Aspirations that are actually life goals like they're supposed to be, not game tutorials.
Speaking of Whims...what happened there? Past games always had them and there's a reward system connected to them so why have they been kicked aside and hidden? Why haven't they been overhauled to reflect a Sim's personal traits?
Flaws. Sims need flaws. Something that works like Rewards but earns points when you buy them because they hinder your Sim in some way. Sims need to be interesting and as diverse in personality as they are in looks.
Personal preferences. How is it that Sims have absolutely no specifics that attract them to another Sim? I want to see Sims who like specific hair or eye colors, specific talents, specific age groups or colors or behaviors. Turn-ons and Turn-offs. My God, the romance system is practically null and void in this game.
Start with any one of these and the game will finally start to feel like it has substance. And once three or four of these features have been actually implemented, we can revisit whether the game feels complete or not.
Seriously though. Fear. For real.
Archaeology Career
Bands
Fairies
Generations
Genies
Heartshape beds
Horses
Honeymoon Resorts
Living in the Future
Living in the Past
Medieval
Moonlight Falls World
Other Planets
Plantsim full lifestate
Playable Babies
Romance better interactions
Singing Career
Spiral Stairs
Time Traveling
Werewolves
There is nothing they can do after six years to make it 'better' after fifty packs, loads of money thrown at it, and dozens of patches that only serve to break more. It wasn't free, some didn't even buy it on sale, but gave them $80 or the $60 (without the deluxe party pack) and we are still not happy with base. It's time to let it go and stop throwing money into a money pit which seems to be the abyss. There's nothing down there.
THIS! Despite all the changes, I feel like the 60 euros I paid in 2014 for the base game still not worth it! And its not 30 dlcs that will fix that!
I also have this feeling. The Sims 4 is so disappointing that will always feel like something is missing. Somehow It will never feel complete! Speaking for people who know The Sims for a long time. There will always be that gap between The Sims 3 and 4 that we know it will never be fulfilled! The regression is real.
lol, six years later they get a repo man? How many years ( I don't remember) did it take to get a nanny and a butler? It was a few years. While they took player's money and released packs no one actually wanted like that party pack and or something just to have a dinner party. Folks forget that didn't used to be free. But then because sales were slipping they turned around and gave it away. ( I still don't have it, missed the deadline). People were so desperate for content and normal stuff like sitting at the dinner table, they paid $15+ for that. While the things Sim can do was jog/workout, paint and write...and guess what, that is still what Sims do in each pack released up to a point. Those three things are used over and over in most packs $100s later.