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Discover University- 21 days then What?
Tenchi2a
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I am having a real hard time figuring out why I would spend full expansion price for what this pack has to offer.
Other expansions (Get together,Get to work, Cats & Dogs,Seasons,etc.) while not always great offered main functions related to the core concept that became part of a sims daily life like Clubs, Weather, Pets, Jobs, etc.
Where Discover University offers 9 sim days ( A few real world hours) of "game play", and I use that word lightly (Rabbithole in 2019 really)(No bikes for kids), then nothing. Yes we get robots, but that is neither University or Life related. (small number of people care)
College/University is a major part/chapter of the life of a student that attends, taking up 4-6 years of their young adulthood. To have it skimmed over in 21 days is not worth the full expansion price and an insult to college graduates everywhere.
The lack of work outside the art department, "nice work as always crew", shown by EA on this expansion pack shows how little they care about the simmers anymore and are just spitting out as many substandard packs as they can get away with.
After this it will take way to much for me to see any packs as anything short of a quick cash grab from now on.
Other expansions (Get together,Get to work, Cats & Dogs,Seasons,etc.) while not always great offered main functions related to the core concept that became part of a sims daily life like Clubs, Weather, Pets, Jobs, etc.
Where Discover University offers 9 sim days ( A few real world hours) of "game play", and I use that word lightly (Rabbithole in 2019 really)(No bikes for kids), then nothing. Yes we get robots, but that is neither University or Life related. (small number of people care)
College/University is a major part/chapter of the life of a student that attends, taking up 4-6 years of their young adulthood. To have it skimmed over in 21 days is not worth the full expansion price and an insult to college graduates everywhere.
The lack of work outside the art department, "nice work as always crew", shown by EA on this expansion pack shows how little they care about the simmers anymore and are just spitting out as many substandard packs as they can get away with.
After this it will take way to much for me to see any packs as anything short of a quick cash grab from now on.
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I remembered back when Strangerville first released, people had speedran through the mystery and completed it in just about 2 rl hours. Why should you have to speedrun through uni?
Speed Runners are a pain. They have to be the first to experience/complete any new content then have the nerve to moan that it's now boring.
I play this game for relaxation, on longlife span, and take things slow, enjoying everything along the way. I also do not overuse content (ie. a pet in every home, every YA will not be going to university) as that kills it.
Then there are three new careers, non-class activities, and skills to build.
You might not have weeks of repetitive classes but Sims still have academic things to do: study sessions, homework, presentations, office hours.
And the entirety of MIT would probably disagree with "robots aren't a part of University or real life".
Ultimately it's up to you how much you're willing to spend on any pack. No one's saying you can't wait for a sale. If you don't feel like it's worth full price, don't pay it.
But I never cared for the University concept, still don't, and I don't plan on buying it. My young adults are fine, thank you... My teens are bored.
Considering we're getting dorms, roommates, bikes, servos, utilibots, 3 new careers that are not completely rabbit hole, a new world, great CAS items, a secret society, 4 penthouse lots (which I thought we wouldn't see again after City Living), I am pretty happy with this EP. You don't have to be, though.
I am not looking to speed run anything.
The point was that if you don't artificially slow down your play (1-2 classes per semester) you quickly run through the content.
And as the zone only has one empty and one other residence there is not much use for the zone outside the Universities.
Depends on your play style.
I tend to stay with one or two sims through their life and play on long lifespan.
So, this leads to Discover University only being useful for a very small part of my sims life.
If they allowed for a Short, Normal, and Long version of the semester I would be fine with it, but since it doesn't I find it wanting.
13 different degrees on two different levels that you need to prepare for, each requiring 21 Sim days of time, plus several extracurriculars, three careers, skill/elective classes. I still don't see how you're going to quickly run out of content unless you do speed-grind through them all. Especially not, as your thread title claims, in 9 Sim days.
And you can edit all the lots to what you want them to be, making the world usable for whatever you need.
Was given the mistaken impression that the semesters where 3 days long, still 21 days is still to short for 4-6 years of a normal students life.
From what I understand you need 12 courses to graduate, you can only take 4 classes per term, and terms are 5 days long.
So it would be 15 days at the least, and I'm assuming weekends dont count.
And everything in the sims life is sped up dramatically. Do you really think people get promotions every 3 days and learn skills in a few hours and build romantic relationships in one night? Lmao no.
And also I dont know what you expected? University is a phase of life that comes and go.
"I am getting really fed-up with the EA apologist.
EA has figured out that most simmers will buy anything they put out no matter how lack luster or underdeveloped as long as it looks good visually.
So we have been getting multiple packs/expansions that have less then half what their equivalent Sims 3 packs/expansions for the same price.
And most (some have started to question EA's commitment now) of the big names in the sim community continue to defend EA.
The only way EA is going to learn that the developers need more time and resources is if we start showing them with our wallets.
But no, there are players on the sims 4 forum happy to let everyone know that they already preordered it without even knowing what was in it.
This is what EA expects so they just keep rushing out underdeveloped packs/expansions.
And for all those players who will say voting with your wallet doesn't work, remember "My First Pet".
It bombed and EA has not tried to pull the " Leave things out and make a stuff pack out of it" again.
Players have to stop the " Low expectations, so I'm pleasantly surprised" attitude and call EA out on its underhanded practices.
I mean when Moders can do a better job while not getting paid for it , what does that say about the paid staff at EA." Me
You have every right not to be satisfied with a pack, to complain here and not to buy it. The point is you're doing it based on something that is not true. There's no way you can graduate in 9 days.
If you don't like the pack, that's your prerogative. If you don't think as a whole, it's not worth its price, that's your right. But the reason you stated was wrong. That's all that the replies here were about.
And there are plenty of little extras that can be used in normal outside-of-uni game play; new careers, ping pong, soccer, bed allocation, computer allocation, roomies, robotics, bicycles and all the extra cas and build/buy stuff that comes with it.
I’m still wondering how in the world they pulled 9 out of a hat 🤔 It’s such a random number...
I was given the mistaken impression that the semesters where 3 days long by the video I watched on it as the poster edited the stream, still 21 days is still to short for 4-6 years of a normal students life and especially if played on long lifespan. If you don't agree then that fine.
But this hounding one error to ignore the rest is as I said being an EA apologist. Your looking for ways to discredit others opinion to defend EA work.
Maybe someone mentioned that if you enroll your Sim on a Wednesday, you'll have 3 days of the first semester, then the weekend, then the last two days? It's definitely not something that was mentioned anywhere in the stream or anything official.
Lol. Also some people go to college for only 2 years so....🤷♀️
Well, you did ask what happens after that. So people shared how they're intending to play. I mean, some of us do like the game as it is. I don't see that as being EA apologist. That's just people enjoying what EA have provided.
My personal opinion has often been that the Sims 3 packs were bloated. There was often content in them that had nothing whatsoever to do with the pack in question (rocking horse in Supernatural, anyone?) but it compelled people to buy them, based on some objects they'd use in their every day gameplay. The Sims 4 packs tend to be more structured and focused on one element and build the pack around that one idea - there's nothing irrelevant in them. I realise that does make the packs appear to have less than their SIms 3 counterparts but at least the content in there is relevant to the theme. So to me, it doesn't feel like the packs have less in them - the content is just properly themed this time around. I'd personally prefer spending £35 on a pack that, in its entirety, I'll use again and again than spend the same amount on a pack where only one or two of the items suit. For me, that's worth my money.
That's not being an EA apologist - just expressing my viewpoint. So these aren't low expectations, just different from the majority of the community
The EA apologist comment was not in anyway directed at you.
You comments have been fair and show a diffrent side of the argument and not just been its 21 not 9 day all your point are now invalided.
The only time the video I watch showed the semester length was when the the class screen was brought up showing 3 days till end of semester and since it was the only time in the video that semester length was even hinted at that's were I got it from.