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Mistakes that shouldn't been repeated in The Sims Series
DragonCat159
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*Don't know a good opening to this thread* I believe the title is self-explanatory.
Mine:
If I were to be honest, I would love and have an open mind for online/multiplayer mode, but I personally think it shouldn't be the top priority and should only come at the end of singleplayer experience development because that needs vast improvement. Shouldn't also interfere and act a separate entity from the singleplayer experience and without locking items and features that feel like should belong in the singleplayer mode as well.
Yours:
- If the game isn't finished, its release should then be postponed.
- Regression and the absents of important elements (lack of terraforming tools, world editing cast, open world, tots, hip hop etc.)
- Where's the sandbox (apartment customization tools, pet controllability, toggles for things like supernatural) ?
- Bugs aren't handled well; aren't squashed enough (includes recyclement of broken systems); where are bug testers and quality assurance?
- New concepts defined as mechanics are programmed to be flawed (emotions and multitasking).
- Debatable, but graphics.
- Little drama and negative consequence than utopia regarding the world how acts upon within the mechanics that are beyond the control of the simmers.
- Lifestages: child almost adult alike, teens very adult-like (physique and psyche wise), debatable but barely difference between YA and adults, elders need something interesting.
- Production side (not necessary by order): 1) Providing & maintaining little to no communication between the players/simmers and gurus/developers; 2) Making contradicting statements and holes in the logic of the official's reasoning for their made decisions/choices. 3) Throwing past games (a.k.a. especially by those developers who worked on those are happen to be their own work) under the bus to give a good look or hide the flaws of the current-recent-new installment game of the series of the franchise.
- *Adding more and checking If I forgot any which likely I did*
On a side note, TS3:S was a catastrophe with its social media thing that was in people's throats. The Memory system was also horribly design.
Mine:
If I were to be honest, I would love and have an open mind for online/multiplayer mode, but I personally think it shouldn't be the top priority and should only come at the end of singleplayer experience development because that needs vast improvement. Shouldn't also interfere and act a separate entity from the singleplayer experience and without locking items and features that feel like should belong in the singleplayer mode as well.
Yours:
- If the game isn't finished, its release should then be postponed.
- Regression and the absents of important elements (lack of terraforming tools, world editing cast, open world, tots, hip hop etc.)
- Where's the sandbox (apartment customization tools, pet controllability, toggles for things like supernatural) ?
- Bugs aren't handled well; aren't squashed enough (includes recyclement of broken systems); where are bug testers and quality assurance?
- New concepts defined as mechanics are programmed to be flawed (emotions and multitasking).
- Debatable, but graphics.
- Little drama and negative consequence than utopia regarding the world how acts upon within the mechanics that are beyond the control of the simmers.
- Lifestages: child almost adult alike, teens very adult-like (physique and psyche wise), debatable but barely difference between YA and adults, elders need something interesting.
- Production side (not necessary by order): 1) Providing & maintaining little to no communication between the players/simmers and gurus/developers; 2) Making contradicting statements and holes in the logic of the official's reasoning for their made decisions/choices. 3) Throwing past games (a.k.a. especially by those developers who worked on those are happen to be their own work) under the bus to give a good look or hide the flaws of the current-recent-new installment game of the series of the franchise.
- *Adding more and checking If I forgot any which likely I did*
On a side note, TS3:S was a catastrophe with its social media thing that was in people's throats. The Memory system was also horribly design.
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Pools, ghosts, toddlers, etc. should have all been in the base game that we paid for. Yet, instead of getting a complete base game, EA is attempting to fulfill their obligations on time payments. Meanwhile, they already got the money paid in full, up front!
They still haven't managed to pay up on Smart Sims and the best emotion system ever in the history of the series. We're still left with emotions that are manipulated by objects rather than events and relationships. We still don't have family members who recognize each other as such. We still can't do no-brainer things like setting up simple relationships in CAS such as boyfriend/girlfriend or fiance/fiancee. Step-sibling relationships and in-laws still don't exist. All the nuance was left to the descriptor: roommate.
Greeeeaaaat....
When will we FINALLY get the things that we paid to have in a base game?
- have multitasking that slows down both actions to preform
- Continue the idea of "vacation" world's. Have packs that add vacation activities and things to add to world's that act as tourist attractions. But just let all world's be livable. It annoys me a fair bit that because some place is not in North America it gets the novelty of vacation spot.
- continue the idea that university is it's own world.
- uncontrollable pets (yeah it's a love hate thing but I believe a sand box game should always offer more options)
- no terrain tools
- no color wheel
- Make or use a base that doesn't allow for toggles
- the emotion system and traits, no system should disrupt a personality of a sim.
- Apartments that can't be made
- recycling buggy content (active careers)
- world's that can't be adjusted at all/inability to add more build space in a save
- foundations that are universal on a lot
Get Together (Bored)
No hip hop station
City Living (Sad and Angry)
Still no hip hop station
Cats & Dogs (Enraged)
No dog houses and hip hop radio station
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More options. Want to include multiplayer? Fine, but make it optional. Don't make the graphics look like cheap 1990s garbage; instead, have scale-able graphics so that someone playing on a potato with wires can have low-res and that someone with a newer gaming rig can have cutting edge graphics.
No that they could do again, I was thoroughly entertained. kidding... sort of, they did a good job on toddlers, but it was funny to watch
Uh, I think basic weather should be included
Clear Sky, Cloudy, Rain, and Temperature and then Seasons can build off of it.
My Mood:
If it's completely optional and if they don't lock content unless you play multiplayer (like they did with Simport) I'm okay with having it as an option for those who want it.
Fun must be always -- Tomas Hertl (San Jose Sharks hockey player)
I'd also like to see a lot more player options in the game. Take vampires, for example -- I know the standard response to people who complain about vampires is "Well you shouldn't have bought the pack if you didn't want vampires munching on your Sim in the middle of the night." But people might want vampires in some saves but not every single save. A way to turn off occults we don't want, or to tone down the frequency would be great rather than "patching" after complaints and making the experience worse for those who really want the ultimate experience.
Fun must be always -- Tomas Hertl (San Jose Sharks hockey player)
or having a sim do flips as a fairy none stop like in sims 3
or having most building be rabbit holes like in sims 3
or giving us warnings before a sim dies like in sims 4 we don't like that never again please
1. A Sims game should never, ever default to a Utopian state. The whole purpose of playing a life simulation game is to be met with obstacles that make it a challenge to keep your Sim happy. Having those risks of failure are what keeps the player engaged. That's the entire premise of the "game" part. Otherwise, it isn't much of a game at all, it's a self-running simulation and pretty much omits the need for a player. If we start off with our Sims already winning, the challenge then becomes trying to get them out of their happiness and contentment and that doesn't make any sense.
2. Emotions should never override traits. A Sim's traits are what defines the personality of the individual Sim. If you have all Sims reacting the same way to generic circumstances, then you end up with cookie-cutter Sims who all act alike. Again, this ends up negating the need for player choices and the simulation continues to run itself, overriding the player's wishes.
3. If you're going to represent something, be thorough and balanced. For example, the emotions system is severely lacking in negatives, especially, especially Fear. How can you decide to make the main focus of a simulation game the Sims emotions and then leave out a chunk of the emotional spectrum? Our Sims occasionally go through the animation of fear, like when their house is on fire, but they never actually experience it. There's an entire piece of the emotional system missing that could have been deep and added more substance to personalities and reactions, but it doesn't even exist!
(rabbithole buildings aren’t a mistake, they are just a way to visualize the inevitable rabbitholes in this game and ‘most buildings’ is not true anyway)
Yep, what you said.
I'd much rather have an actual place for Sims to go, rather than have them disappear into thin air. Also, those building served many purposes: skill improvement, entertainment, a means of changing careers, work locations, etc. Not only that, they served as an easy way to meet certain Sims. Want to meet a policeman, hang out outside of the precinct. A fireman? Go to the fire station. If you want your next baby daddy to be a big money baller, go loiter in front of the stadium, one would inevitably pass by.
I also love that you actually see your co-workers going to work. You can introduce yourself to them, chat them up, and truly befriend them, as opposed to having all of that off screen with no input from the player. I especially loved seeing all of the kids going to and from school. That's how my Sim kids used to make acquaintances with their classmates.
Those building actually filled out a world and made them feel more complete. In the current game, there's no town hall for the mayor, no schools for the children, no work locations, except for the active careers. Most of the world is not tangible. It's floating somewhere out in the ether, invisible and totally inaccessible.
At least the rabbit holes were tangible physical things, not 2D backgrounds that can't be interacted with at all.
On multiplayer, I wouldn't mind if it were optional in the main series or just a whole different Sims game entirely. Just don't force it on everyone.
On rabbithole buildings, I didn't mind them. That's a better alternative to me than my sim just leaving the map altogether. I don't need to see my sims at school or at work all the time if at all but I like having a physical location on them.
Easy - Sims 4
I agree, there is one thing I do like about Sims 4 Sims when they do cheat, the Sim being cheated on does not come running out of nowhere and automatically know they are being on cheated on. I moved an sim in the household with her lover and she got pregnant and the sim being cheated on didn't get a whiff of what is going on.
Could be referring to the inevitable friendship requirement to climb the next ladder of the promotion.
As for rabbit holes, depending on how you look of it. If all premade community lots includes rabbit hole buildings with no effort to put real venues, than that could be a problem: for those who wish to enter the realm of what they're sima are actually doing or builders who detests the locked exterior look.
Honestly, I would prefer at least they add them in with a healthy/balance number of actual real buildings BEFORE replacing it all with future updates to make them un-rabbit-ize.
dont you remember @JoAnne65 if you want your sims to get gigs in careers that came with show time you had to port your sims to others games no thank you is what I have to say to that also I wasn't counting the buildings you buy at the store just ones that came with the packs
and most of those are rabbit holes no thanks I think all the building should come in packs so if you have all of the packs you have all the buildings I have all the sims 3 packs but nothing from the store so most of it is rabbit holes
I agree with you about the rabbit holes and I also hate friendship being requirements for there jobs in sims 3 and sims 1 never again please