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    shadowiciashadowicia Posts: 591 Member
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    Does anyone miss how if you drink a cup of coffee your Sim couldn't sleep for so many hours until it wore off? I used to make my Sims drink a lot of coffee on Sims 3 and build skills.

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      foxx_fennecfoxx_fennec Posts: 761 Member
      Yep. Now it only has a negligible benefit to energy, which is offset by the energy lost in the amount of time it takes to drink the coffee.
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      shadowiciashadowicia Posts: 591 Member
      foxx_fennec wrote: »
      Yep. Now it only has a negligible benefit to energy, which is offset by the energy lost in the amount of time it takes to drink the coffee.

      I think when your sim feels energize that they shouldn't be able to sleep or nap. It would give more benefit to the emotion.
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      foxx_fennecfoxx_fennec Posts: 761 Member
      It should also get rid of tired/exhausted moodlets while the coffee moodlet is in effect, like it did in TS3.
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      NZsimm3rNZsimm3r Posts: 9,265 Member
      I do..but rats, I thought this was going to be a thread all about the love of coffee.... <3
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      shadowiciashadowicia Posts: 591 Member
      NZsimm3r wrote: »
      I do..but rats, I thought this was going to be a thread all about the love of coffee.... <3

      Coffee is good. I'm from Canada and up here we love our Timmies :)
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      Sk8rblazeSk8rblaze Posts: 7,570 Member
      Yeah, something I miss a lot is how the game actually felt like a balanced, life simulation. Often, it feels like certain gameplay mechanics are just unbalanced and provide far too much advantage to the player, when there should be some sort of trade-off for the player taking the easier route. They tried to mend this with traits a bit, but we have traits that give nothing but a bonus, traits which give both bonus and disadvantage, and some I feel with not enough of a bonus. I think they should overhaul traits system and make it more about clearly defining a personality over anything anyway, but that's irrelevant.
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      MrMonty96MrMonty96 Posts: 1,715 Member
      I wish I could be like my sims and get energized by coffee but it does literally nothing to me in rl lol
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      shadowiciashadowicia Posts: 591 Member
      MrMonty96 wrote: »
      I wish I could be like my sims and get energized by coffee but it does literally nothing to me in rl lol

      Same, but that's because I drink like three cups a day LOL.
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      qpmommaqpmomma Posts: 135 Member
      shadowicia wrote: »
      foxx_fennec wrote: »
      Yep. Now it only has a negligible benefit to energy, which is offset by the energy lost in the amount of time it takes to drink the coffee.

      I think when your sim feels energize that they shouldn't be able to sleep or nap. It would give more benefit to the emotion.

      I agree. I was surprised to find out that was not the case. And yeah, coffee should prevent energy from decaying.
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      shadowiciashadowicia Posts: 591 Member
      Sk8rblaze wrote: »
      Yeah, something I miss a lot is how the game actually felt like a balanced, life simulation. Often, it feels like certain gameplay mechanics are just unbalanced and provide far too much advantage to the player, when there should be some sort of trade-off for the player taking the easier route. They tried to mend this with traits a bit, but we have traits that give nothing but a bonus, traits which give both bonus and disadvantage, and some I feel with not enough of a bonus. I think they should overhaul traits system and make it more about clearly defining a personality over anything anyway, but that's irrelevant.

      I think traits need to bring out different actions. Like the clumsy trait has really no use to me
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      PolyrhythmPolyrhythm Posts: 2,789 Member
      Yeah, I hate how useless coffee is. And then it just makes you sim dazed after a couple cups, it has almost no benefit :/
      shadowicia wrote: »
      NZsimm3r wrote: »
      I do..but rats, I thought this was going to be a thread all about the love of coffee.... <3

      Coffee is good. I'm from Canada and up here we love our Timmies :)
      I love Tim Hortons, I go there way too often <3
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      shadowiciashadowicia Posts: 591 Member
      Polyrhythm wrote: »
      Yeah, I hate how useless coffee is. And then it just makes you sim dazed after a couple cups, it has almost no benefit :/
      shadowicia wrote: »
      NZsimm3r wrote: »
      I do..but rats, I thought this was going to be a thread all about the love of coffee.... <3

      Coffee is good. I'm from Canada and up here we love our Timmies :)
      I love Tim Hortons, I go there way too often <3

      Me to. LOL what Canadian don't though, eh?
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      NeiaNeia Posts: 4,190 Member
      foxx_fennec wrote: »
      Yep. Now it only has a negligible benefit to energy, which is offset by the energy lost in the amount of time it takes to drink the coffee.

      And the amount of time it takes to pee afterward. :/ Drinking has too much an effect on the bladder need in my opinion.
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      Noree_DoreeNoree_Doree Posts: 1,470 Member
      NZsimm3r wrote: »
      I do..but rats, I thought this was going to be a thread all about the love of coffee.... <3

      I opened it up and initially thought the same. Then again here I am at work almost done (less than 4 hours left adter working over 8 already) woohoo... im ready to go home and sleep. Coffee sounds so good right now.. But these heathens here at work use up all the sugar leaving just creamer... (-__-)
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      xPaxionxPaxion Posts: 1,119 Member
      Can Sims choose how they like there coffee? How many sugars, how much milk, how dark it is?
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      EmmaVaneEmmaVane Posts: 7,847 Member
      shadowicia wrote: »
      Sk8rblaze wrote: »
      Yeah, something I miss a lot is how the game actually felt like a balanced, life simulation. Often, it feels like certain gameplay mechanics are just unbalanced and provide far too much advantage to the player, when there should be some sort of trade-off for the player taking the easier route. They tried to mend this with traits a bit, but we have traits that give nothing but a bonus, traits which give both bonus and disadvantage, and some I feel with not enough of a bonus. I think they should overhaul traits system and make it more about clearly defining a personality over anything anyway, but that's irrelevant.

      I think traits need to bring out different actions. Like the clumsy trait has really no use to me

      Clumsy actually increases failure chance. My Clumsy scientist started 3 fires (from exploding serums) and failed one invention (which I didn't know was possible) in her first week.
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      NeiaNeia Posts: 4,190 Member
      EmmaVane wrote: »
      shadowicia wrote: »
      Sk8rblaze wrote: »
      Yeah, something I miss a lot is how the game actually felt like a balanced, life simulation. Often, it feels like certain gameplay mechanics are just unbalanced and provide far too much advantage to the player, when there should be some sort of trade-off for the player taking the easier route. They tried to mend this with traits a bit, but we have traits that give nothing but a bonus, traits which give both bonus and disadvantage, and some I feel with not enough of a bonus. I think they should overhaul traits system and make it more about clearly defining a personality over anything anyway, but that's irrelevant.

      I think traits need to bring out different actions. Like the clumsy trait has really no use to me

      Clumsy actually increases failure chance. My Clumsy scientist started 3 fires (from exploding serums) and failed one invention (which I didn't know was possible) in her first week.

      I've lost track on the number of time my clumsy doctor has dropped the sample test tube :D
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      kokoro80kokoro80 Posts: 651 Member
      Agree OP, it would be nice if drinking coffee gave the sims a "buzzed" moodlet. I also think that the effect of coffee on the bladder need is too overpowered, one coffee and my sim is doing the pee walk. This needs to be adjusted imo.
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      EmmaVaneEmmaVane Posts: 7,847 Member
      edited September 2016
      I was going to say caffeine is a diuretic, but I looked it up and it's not technically true. No increase in output, just an increase in urgency. So it still makes sense that it hastens the need to pee.
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      shadowiciashadowicia Posts: 591 Member
      EmmaVane wrote: »
      shadowicia wrote: »
      Sk8rblaze wrote: »
      Yeah, something I miss a lot is how the game actually felt like a balanced, life simulation. Often, it feels like certain gameplay mechanics are just unbalanced and provide far too much advantage to the player, when there should be some sort of trade-off for the player taking the easier route. They tried to mend this with traits a bit, but we have traits that give nothing but a bonus, traits which give both bonus and disadvantage, and some I feel with not enough of a bonus. I think they should overhaul traits system and make it more about clearly defining a personality over anything anyway, but that's irrelevant.

      I think traits need to bring out different actions. Like the clumsy trait has really no use to me

      Clumsy actually increases failure chance. My Clumsy scientist started 3 fires (from exploding serums) and failed one invention (which I didn't know was possible) in her first week.

      Does it? I never noticed but that's pretty neat so I take back what i said.
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      Ceres_MeirionaCeres_Meiriona Posts: 5,006 Member
      shadowicia wrote: »
      foxx_fennec wrote: »
      Yep. Now it only has a negligible benefit to energy, which is offset by the energy lost in the amount of time it takes to drink the coffee.

      I think when your sim feels energize that they shouldn't be able to sleep or nap. It would give more benefit to the emotion.

      I actually thought they couldn't sleep while energized, but I just tested it in my game and you're totally right. I'd definitely like to see the energized emotion prevent a sim from sleeping whether it's from coffee or just working out. When you're pumped, you're pumped and there is no such thing as rest in those moments. ;)
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      GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 28,593 Member
      shadowicia wrote: »
      Does anyone miss how if you drink a cup of coffee your Sim couldn't sleep for so many hours until it wore off? I used to make my Sims drink a lot of coffee on Sims 3 and build skills.

      I remember mostly how it would give my Sims the jitters! LOL
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      foxx_fennecfoxx_fennec Posts: 761 Member
      EmmaVane wrote: »
      Clumsy actually increases failure chance. My Clumsy scientist started 3 fires (from exploding serums) and failed one invention (which I didn't know was possible) in her first week.

      Out of curiosity, what happens when you fail an invention? Do you just end up with nothing, or does something happen? I had no idea that was possible.
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      foxx_fennecfoxx_fennec Posts: 761 Member
      EmmaVane wrote: »
      I was going to say caffeine is a diuretic, but I looked it up and it's not technically true. No increase in output, just an increase in urgency. So it still makes sense that it hastens the need to pee.

      I still think the effect on bladder is greater than it should be. The diuretic-like effect IRL is fairly mild, and it's lessened/negated for anyone who regularly drinks coffee or other caffeinated drinks.
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      shadowiciashadowicia Posts: 591 Member
      Ceres_Meiriona wrote: »
      shadowicia wrote: »
      foxx_fennec wrote: »
      Yep. Now it only has a negligible benefit to energy, which is offset by the energy lost in the amount of time it takes to drink the coffee.

      I think when your sim feels energize that they shouldn't be able to sleep or nap. It would give more benefit to the emotion.

      I actually thought they couldn't sleep while energized, but I just tested it in my game and you're totally right. I'd definitely like to see the energized emotion prevent a sim from sleeping whether it's from coffee or just working out. When you're pumped, you're pumped and there is no such thing as rest in those moments. ;)

      Yeah, it would make sense because who can sleep when they're hyped up. I know I can't.
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