Here's a radical thought: if you don't like it, don't play it.
I have a lot of money invested in the game. I don't play it but it doesn't mean I'm happy about losing that investment due to the state of the game so I will give feedback thank you
Here's a radical thought: if you don't like it, don't play it.
I'm thankful that the majority of people aren't so despondent that they just give up like that.
Let's not forget what this thread is. The Op wants the game scrapped, taking it away from those who like it. I think Inna Minnit's comments are understandable.
I'm afraid it's too late for them to just simply scrap it at this point. It's here and probably going to poop out a gazillion packs in the years to come.
Here's a radical thought: if you don't like it, don't play it.
I'm thankful that the majority of people aren't so despondent that they just give up like that.
Let's not forget what this thread is. The Op wants the game scrapped, taking it away from those who like it. I think Inna Minnit's comments are understandable.
I didn't say her/his comment wasn't understandable. As an alternative thought to hers/his I expressed my thankfulness that the majority of players that are unhappy are not so completely void of hope and change to want to be so simplistic in their view and just walk away.
Edited because I don't know or want to assume gender.
At what point, though, does a company give up on a game? EA's own most recent SimCity disaster comes to mind. I'm sure they wanted to stretch that out for many years with DLC and expansions, but it died an ugly death after only one expansion. The player base was not there to justify any more R&D or investment from the company. If TS4 isn't selling like they want it to -- and we have no idea since there are no unbiased sales numbers -- I can't see them shoveling money into a black hole for four more years.
I say just finish the bloody game so we can move on to something better. They already have expansions other things lined up for it so they won't ditch it. But honestly if they did to start on sims 5, how we know they won't do the same like with 4? They still don't listen so until they do I feel sims 5 will have the same fate.
At what point, though, does a company give up on a game? EA's own most recent SimCity disaster comes to mind. I'm sure they wanted to stretch that out for many years with DLC and expansions, but it died an ugly death after only one expansion. The player base was not there to justify any more R&D or investment from the company. If TS4 isn't selling like they want it to -- and we have no idea since there are no unbiased sales numbers -- I can't see them shoveling money into a black hole for four more years.
i keep waiting for ts4 to get the sims medieval treatment... a dribbled out expansion or two and then it'll die a stephen king-type of death from a clown in the sewer. it's a year old and already and nothing they've done to it has improved interest in it. in fact, it's only worsened interest with most fans.
At what point, though, does a company give up on a game? EA's own most recent SimCity disaster comes to mind. I'm sure they wanted to stretch that out for many years with DLC and expansions, but it died an ugly death after only one expansion. The player base was not there to justify any more R&D or investment from the company. If TS4 isn't selling like they want it to -- and we have no idea since there are no unbiased sales numbers -- I can't see them shoveling money into a black hole for four more years.
Would it be a black hole if they added some content that people have been asking for, stopped offering things in a substandard way and added some communication and better PR? Seems like easy fixes to me.
At what point, though, does a company give up on a game? EA's own most recent SimCity disaster comes to mind. I'm sure they wanted to stretch that out for many years with DLC and expansions, but it died an ugly death after only one expansion. The player base was not there to justify any more R&D or investment from the company. If TS4 isn't selling like they want it to -- and we have no idea since there are no unbiased sales numbers -- I can't see them shoveling money into a black hole for four more years.
i keep waiting for ts4 to get the sims medieval treatment... a dribbled out expansion or two and then it'll die a stephen king-type of death from a clown in the sewer. it's a year old and already and nothing they've done to it has improved interest in it. in fact, it's only worsened interest with most fans.
Ah, yes, The Sims Medieval is an excellent example as well. One and done when it came to expansions, yet I'm sure they had many more on the drawing board had it been a successful game. A business does not throw good money after bad. I'm one who bought Sims Medieval on release day because it looked so pretty. After a few days I was so disappointed in the shallow, linear gameplay that I eventually sold my game and never regretted it. Notice how EA then made it so you can't resell your TS4 game if you don't want it any more!
In my honest opinion, I think the game is just too broken to be fixed! It's been out for over a year and it's still lacking a lot of content/features! And when they do release new stuff, it's always something we didn't even ask for or want! The developers are obsessed with making The Sims 4 a party game with young adults, gnomes, and Star Wars costumes! The next expansion pack (Get Together), which is actually a game pack, has a closet listed as a core feature. Not to mention that recent embarrassing interview Rachel Franklin had where she literally admitted to purposely ruining this game because she thought it was "for the better"... The Sims 4 is a huge disappointment to the franchise. It needs to be scrapped and forgotten! I think EA should just start working on The Sims 5 and make it an improvement from Sims 3 like Sims 4 SHOULD have been!
I wanted it to be scrapped even before the release of the base game, when we found out it was made from scrap pieces of Olympus. I still want it to be scrapped. There is no saving this game. Sure, there will be more things added but they will not make the game better. Notice how quickly people get bored with each pack that is released? That's a tell tale sign right there.
I don't know. Would scrapping it even help? The same team who are building it now would probably be assigned to work on the next one, and all the problems would begin all over again. Then there are the people who are enjoying it as is. Is it fair to demand scrappage, and deny them the game they're enjoying? While I see a lot of comments that state they frankly don't care that there are some of us who are disappointed, should we be as bad as they are?
What is needed ( I think ) is probably some re-education of the developers, into what made previous Sims games so great. Particularly number 2. Have them learn that it doesn't need to be all parties and socialising + selfie's and luxury items. That the game should also be less achievement oriented, less hand holding and that families should be embraced. Not leaving out a lifestage, or having Mothers feel flirty while watching her Sim-child burn to death. Not nerfing lifetime rewards because it gives players and unfair advantage ( Over who I don't know )
Get them out of this "MMO" mindset, and back into deep, rich and complex play, so that everyone has something to do.
So you are basically saying get rid of all the SimGurus, such as @SimGuruDrake?
That is very mean to say that people deserve to lose their job.
She didn't say that at all Colton. She said "re-education" which means just the opposite.
At what point, though, does a company give up on a game? EA's own most recent SimCity disaster comes to mind. I'm sure they wanted to stretch that out for many years with DLC and expansions, but it died an ugly death after only one expansion. The player base was not there to justify any more R&D or investment from the company. If TS4 isn't selling like they want it to -- and we have no idea since there are no unbiased sales numbers -- I can't see them shoveling money into a black hole for four more years.
Would it be a black hole if they added some content that people have been asking for, stopped offering things in a substandard way and added some communication and better PR? Seems like easy fixes to me.
For me, yes it still would be a black hole. Because the foundation of the game is broken. They can't fix the core of the game without taking it off the market, rebuilding it, then re-releasing it. You can't slap a band-aid on a sever wound that need stitches and think it will heal.
lawd, yes. or maybe do like final fantasy 14 and...
1) apologize;
2) listen to the fans;
3) redesign out the awful;
4) reboot the sublime.
easy peasy pie
This! Ts4 has the potential to be a good game, but right off the bat Ms RF made all the wrong decisions and gave us a bull shirt game. But there's still time to right all of your wrongs Ms RF! And it all starts with an apology.
Oh no! Please don't take Sims 4 away. This series have entertained me more and more as I read comments everyday. Please don't take away the train wreck. I can't stop looking.
Nothing to see. I don't even care about the forums.
EA won't scrap it, that would be admitting they went in the wrong direction with their "back to basics" and "emotions" approach and lack of everything else.
Here's a radical thought: if you don't like it, don't play it.
I totally agree with you @Inna Minnit In fact, let's take this one step further... if you don't play it, don't buy it. There currently 391 players who also agree with you and who have agreed not to spend a sum total of $15640.00 on the next expansion pack to save EA the trouble of hearing us complain about how much the new EP fails.
It's great to see that whether we like the game or not we can always find common ground.
At what point, though, does a company give up on a game? EA's own most recent SimCity disaster comes to mind. I'm sure they wanted to stretch that out for many years with DLC and expansions, but it died an ugly death after only one expansion. The player base was not there to justify any more R&D or investment from the company. If TS4 isn't selling like they want it to -- and we have no idea since there are no unbiased sales numbers -- I can't see them shoveling money into a black hole for four more years.
Would it be a black hole if they added some content that people have been asking for, stopped offering things in a substandard way and added some communication and better PR? Seems like easy fixes to me.
For me, yes it still would be a black hole. Because the foundation of the game is broken. They can't fix the core of the game without taking it off the market, rebuilding it, then re-releasing it. You can't slap a band-aid on a sever wound that need stitches and think it will heal.
when you stitch together cadavar pieces you get either a stitched together mess or frankenstein's monster...
and the monster always turns on it's creator. the other will just leaving a stinking mess unless you get those neat dermestidae beetles that natural history museums use to clean animal skeletons.
It's not THAT bad. It's not perfect and I really doubt it'll do as well as previous installments but compared to other ways to spend my time and entertainment dollars it's pretty good. I used to play Farmville for sims sakes or pluming Hidden Chronicles! Comparatively it's much better. A lot of things were dropped and no matter what a recent interview said, that was a mistake. I, you and Rachael know it but it's corporate America, what's she going to say? So, it's okay, it's not winning any awards but it's okay. If you fine something better to play and spend your money on then I so go for it cause it won't be scrapped and re-started. It might be dropped completely like Simcity 13 for the next ten years but that's it.
Aren't Farmsville and Hidden Chronicles free? I'd certainly expect a $70 AAA game to be better than a browser game. Actually, that you compare them, even in a largely negative way, kind of does show that Sims 4 still may be hanging onto its tablet roots. This actually is one of the most damning things about Sims 4 I've read on this forum, and I know you didn't mean it that way at all.
Here's a radical thought: if you don't like it, don't play it.
I have a radical thought for you. Bioware, an EA division, put out an amazing, well-loved game called Dragon Age Origins. It was an unexpected success so EA decided to capitalize on it and rushed on Dragon Age 2 (and it was obviously rushed and a huge mess). And in fact, it even had a dev on the forums saying that if DA2 didn't sell well, there'd be no more.
So what did all the complaining get them? The next game, they got a larger budget and took their time, even delaying the game for a year when they decided to add more to the game. The result was Dragon Age Inquisition, another award winning, well-loved game. I pretty sure even the people who loved DA2 were glad that DAI was made with far more care since the fans made it clear they weren't willing to settle for rushed-out messes.
Here's a radical thought: if you don't like it, don't play it.
I have a radical thought for you. Bioware, an EA division, put out an amazing, well-loved game called Dragon Age Origins. It was an unexpected success so EA decided to capitalize on it and rushed on Dragon Age 2 (and it was obviously rushed and a huge mess). And in fact, it even had a dev on the forums saying that if DA2 didn't sell well, there'd be no more.
So what did all the complaining get them? The next game, they got a larger budget and took their time, even delaying the game for a year when they decided to add more to the game. The result was Dragon Age Inquisition, another award winning, well-loved game. I pretty sure even the people who loved DA2 were glad that DAI was made with far more care since the fans made it clear they weren't willing to settle for rushed-out messes.
In my honest opinion, I think the game is just too broken to be fixed! It's been out for over a year and it's still lacking a lot of content/features! And when they do release new stuff, it's always something we didn't even ask for or want! The developers are obsessed with making The Sims 4 a party game with young adults, gnomes, and Star Wars costumes! The next expansion pack (Get Together), which is actually a game pack, has a closet listed as a core feature. Not to mention that recent embarrassing interview Rachel Franklin had where she literally admitted to purposely ruining this game because she thought it was "for the better"... The Sims 4 is a huge disappointment to the franchise. It needs to be scrapped and forgotten! I think EA should just start working on The Sims 5 and make it an improvement from Sims 3 like Sims 4 SHOULD have been!
Sorry, I don't agree. Who says it's broken? Lacking of content or features doesn't make it broken. I think the game is fine, it has some bugs, but which game doesn't? There are a lot of people who did like the content that was released, me one of them. So please speak for yourself. I don't think the developers are obsessed with making the sims 4 a party game, it's just the second expansion pack for the love of plumbob. Rachel never admitted to purposely ruining the game, you just think that because you don't like the game. The sims 4 is not a huge disappointment for the franchise, the sales were fine. And in my opinion sims 4 has a lot of improvements over sims 3. Really hate the game if you want, but stop the drama.
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I'm thankful that the majority of people aren't so despondent that they just give up like that.
I have a lot of money invested in the game. I don't play it but it doesn't mean I'm happy about losing that investment due to the state of the game so I will give feedback thank you
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Let's not forget what this thread is. The Op wants the game scrapped, taking it away from those who like it. I think Inna Minnit's comments are understandable.
1) apologize;
2) listen to the fans;
3) redesign out the awful;
4) reboot the sublime.
easy peasy pie
Edited because I don't know or want to assume gender.
i keep waiting for ts4 to get the sims medieval treatment... a dribbled out expansion or two and then it'll die a stephen king-type of death from a clown in the sewer. it's a year old and already and nothing they've done to it has improved interest in it. in fact, it's only worsened interest with most fans.
Ah, yes, The Sims Medieval is an excellent example as well. One and done when it came to expansions, yet I'm sure they had many more on the drawing board had it been a successful game. A business does not throw good money after bad. I'm one who bought Sims Medieval on release day because it looked so pretty. After a few days I was so disappointed in the shallow, linear gameplay that I eventually sold my game and never regretted it. Notice how EA then made it so you can't resell your TS4 game if you don't want it any more!
I wanted it to be scrapped even before the release of the base game, when we found out it was made from scrap pieces of Olympus. I still want it to be scrapped. There is no saving this game. Sure, there will be more things added but they will not make the game better. Notice how quickly people get bored with each pack that is released? That's a tell tale sign right there.
She didn't say that at all Colton. She said "re-education" which means just the opposite.
For me, yes it still would be a black hole. Because the foundation of the game is broken. They can't fix the core of the game without taking it off the market, rebuilding it, then re-releasing it. You can't slap a band-aid on a sever wound that need stitches and think it will heal.
This! Ts4 has the potential to be a good game, but right off the bat Ms RF made all the wrong decisions and gave us a bull shirt game. But there's still time to right all of your wrongs Ms RF! And it all starts with an apology.
I totally agree with you @Inna Minnit In fact, let's take this one step further... if you don't play it, don't buy it. There currently 391 players who also agree with you and who have agreed not to spend a sum total of $15640.00 on the next expansion pack to save EA the trouble of hearing us complain about how much the new EP fails.
It's great to see that whether we like the game or not we can always find common ground.
Enjoy your game.
when you stitch together cadavar pieces you get either a stitched together mess or frankenstein's monster...
and the monster always turns on it's creator. the other will just leaving a stinking mess unless you get those neat dermestidae beetles that natural history museums use to clean animal skeletons.
Aren't Farmsville and Hidden Chronicles free? I'd certainly expect a $70 AAA game to be better than a browser game. Actually, that you compare them, even in a largely negative way, kind of does show that Sims 4 still may be hanging onto its tablet roots. This actually is one of the most damning things about Sims 4 I've read on this forum, and I know you didn't mean it that way at all.
I have a radical thought for you. Bioware, an EA division, put out an amazing, well-loved game called Dragon Age Origins. It was an unexpected success so EA decided to capitalize on it and rushed on Dragon Age 2 (and it was obviously rushed and a huge mess). And in fact, it even had a dev on the forums saying that if DA2 didn't sell well, there'd be no more.
So what did all the complaining get them? The next game, they got a larger budget and took their time, even delaying the game for a year when they decided to add more to the game. The result was Dragon Age Inquisition, another award winning, well-loved game. I pretty sure even the people who loved DA2 were glad that DAI was made with far more care since the fans made it clear they weren't willing to settle for rushed-out messes.
I hope this problem will be resolved or this problems will continue.
100 time this.
Sorry, I don't agree. Who says it's broken? Lacking of content or features doesn't make it broken. I think the game is fine, it has some bugs, but which game doesn't? There are a lot of people who did like the content that was released, me one of them. So please speak for yourself. I don't think the developers are obsessed with making the sims 4 a party game, it's just the second expansion pack for the love of plumbob. Rachel never admitted to purposely ruining the game, you just think that because you don't like the game. The sims 4 is not a huge disappointment for the franchise, the sales were fine. And in my opinion sims 4 has a lot of improvements over sims 3. Really hate the game if you want, but stop the drama.