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The reason why The Sims 4 isn't as good.
Dramatic-Gamer
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Now before I say anything I want You to know that I do like The Sims 4 & I enjoy Playing it & I'm not a hater or anything so please don't be like this 
Ok now that is out of the way let's talk about this.
The sims 4 was released in 2014 ... in the era of magnificent games like Gta V / Mortal Kombat X / Battlefield 4 etc ....
everything looked extremely good & we felt the future of gaming coming.
So when the sims 4 was announced we expected something revolutionary , Something magical to the future of The Sims franchise , specially that it's one of the most selling PC games of all times.
but when the actual game was revealed and we saw how it lacked so many features that was in previous sims games & how it didn't add anything revolutionary except for CAS creation & Build mode many of us got very disappointed including me.
I never liked the art of the Sims themselves in the game especially the hair "It grew on me a little now" & I hated how they removed amazing features like CAST & open worlds & many other things.
I wouldn't care about open world if they atleast made open neighborhood districts.
so We "The Simmers" were sitting there looking at this game & we were like .... wait what ?
Is this really The fourth installment of this game ? in 2014 ??
It was just not good enough.
The reason why The Sims 2 was sooo huge & successful is the fact that it didn't feel like a 2004 game , it was MAGIC for it's time... the game would've been released in 2008 and still was a great game because of how awesome it was & how hugely it improved from The Sims 1 to The Sims 2.
The Sims 3 was a great improvement too & it added so many things that wasn't in the sims 2 like Open worlds , CAST & cars being in the base game.
& if it wasn't so buggy and if sims looked better , The sims 3 would've been a perfect game as well & it was a good game for it's age.
now back to The Sims 4 .... after all the improvements that we saw in previous installments of the franchise & how each game added HUGE new features .. we expected The sims 4 to be THEBOMB.COM ! but it was totally the opposite.
with more than 90 really needed features that was removed from The Sims 3 specially "open world , CAST & toddlers" everyone was shocked & disappointed with the game.
maybe The Sims Olympus just messed everything up & if they worked on an actual "The Sims 4" from the beginning , none of this would've happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsx-pgwMYew
now game is slowly bringing back missing features like "Ghosts , Pools , Repair man etc..." but it's like a little too late ...
The Sims 4 is not a bad game after all & the fact that it sold 5 million copies proves that but maybe it's not good enough to be released in this era.
Thanks for reading & sorry if this was hard to read "Enlish is not my first language"
If You have different opinions than mine please say them in a respectful way.
have a good day
Ok now that is out of the way let's talk about this.
The sims 4 was released in 2014 ... in the era of magnificent games like Gta V / Mortal Kombat X / Battlefield 4 etc ....
everything looked extremely good & we felt the future of gaming coming.
So when the sims 4 was announced we expected something revolutionary , Something magical to the future of The Sims franchise , specially that it's one of the most selling PC games of all times.
but when the actual game was revealed and we saw how it lacked so many features that was in previous sims games & how it didn't add anything revolutionary except for CAS creation & Build mode many of us got very disappointed including me.
I never liked the art of the Sims themselves in the game especially the hair "It grew on me a little now" & I hated how they removed amazing features like CAST & open worlds & many other things.
I wouldn't care about open world if they atleast made open neighborhood districts.
so We "The Simmers" were sitting there looking at this game & we were like .... wait what ?
Is this really The fourth installment of this game ? in 2014 ??
It was just not good enough.
The reason why The Sims 2 was sooo huge & successful is the fact that it didn't feel like a 2004 game , it was MAGIC for it's time... the game would've been released in 2008 and still was a great game because of how awesome it was & how hugely it improved from The Sims 1 to The Sims 2.
The Sims 3 was a great improvement too & it added so many things that wasn't in the sims 2 like Open worlds , CAST & cars being in the base game.
& if it wasn't so buggy and if sims looked better , The sims 3 would've been a perfect game as well & it was a good game for it's age.
now back to The Sims 4 .... after all the improvements that we saw in previous installments of the franchise & how each game added HUGE new features .. we expected The sims 4 to be THEBOMB.COM ! but it was totally the opposite.
with more than 90 really needed features that was removed from The Sims 3 specially "open world , CAST & toddlers" everyone was shocked & disappointed with the game.
maybe The Sims Olympus just messed everything up & if they worked on an actual "The Sims 4" from the beginning , none of this would've happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsx-pgwMYewnow game is slowly bringing back missing features like "Ghosts , Pools , Repair man etc..." but it's like a little too late ...
The Sims 4 is not a bad game after all & the fact that it sold 5 million copies proves that but maybe it's not good enough to be released in this era.
Thanks for reading & sorry if this was hard to read "Enlish is not my first language"
If You have different opinions than mine please say them in a respectful way.
have a good day
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I feel like I have to be fair to EA for trying something new. As much as I loved 3, I did not need Sims 4 to be basically sims 3 improved. It's basically what I wanted and it seems most everyone else thought to. And I only realized later there would be no point to having a 4 if it was the same as 3 but better. For all that just improve 3.
So they're doing something new and looking at it with a fresh perspective, I like it. Less content more game play. More releases but less giant releases. It's just a change from what we're used to. But it makes me feel like 5 can really be that sims game. Something incorporating even more as 4 is almost if not basically experimental.
In the end The Sims 3 was a complete mess for me. Lagging, bugs and while I had every single EP that had been released I didn't use much of it. True, my way of playing is pretty simple but I also got bored easily. I still get bored after a while, that's the kind of person I am. But with The Sims 4 I actually try my hand at generational play at times. I used to be a single sim player. Do the TS4 have some issues? Sure. But the problems with TS3 made it impossible for me to play in Isla Paradisa or most of the other maps. I'm someone that likes to work toward goals but once I achived an ambition in TS3 I lost those goals. In TS4 I can jump around, have many goals and try new things. Which I do and it is pretty nice. I'm not disappointed. I knew what I would get when I bought it. TS3 didn't live up to the hype either you know.
When I saw the first trailer I was amazed...
And then this one:
I was actually exited, and I loved the graphics, but then...they started to roll out more info.
No, open world (no world for a matter of fact just many neighborhoods), no toddlers, emotions aren't as awesome as they presented them, sims having forced smiles 24/7. They also slightly changed sims, they look more pudding-like currently, whereas in the beta and early renders they looked good and sharp.
I also don't know what happened to the amount of pre-sets they had for sim's faces, this was presented a little later:
Some of the final BG hair ended up by being lower polygon and/or with weirder if not horrible texturing:
But I could forgive most of all that if this game wasn't such a bore. Goals, meaningless traits and personalities, repetitive interactions or lack of them, etc.
And to add to all of that, even though some packs have been okay-good (GP's mostly), EP's have been the ultimate kill for this game. They are so bad. The content of them isn't much and the themes are a mess so far (GTW should have never combined OFB with Active careers), they have no direction, I get that they want to try and make new stuff, but they have an "Ideas Section" and "Feedback", many new stuff related to new themes is there that people suggest, Sports Pack, Beach-like Packs, City Packs, Farm Packs, and some are really good and directional but zero 🐸🐸🐸🐸 are given, sorry for the expression. I know devs work hard, I like them, but I have honestly no idea what creative force is driving this sometimes, or maybe it's all a budget and time issue or they made the engine badly. Also I mean this in a gameplay point of view, which is the problem, I think the art style is great, the UI is great though wish there was at least a blue option, the object design is good enough etc.
I fully expected TS4 to blow all previous versions out of the water, I was highly disappointed that it didn't. Perhaps it is the fact that TS2 seemed ahead of its time, the same with TS3 - and they both brought us some awesome new features. Then along came TS4 with so many things we got used to being cut. It takes time to adjust to something so... different I guess.
I hated it from even before it got released and I knew I would hate it after release (which I did). The only reason I bought it was to see for myself exactly what it was like. But over time I have gotten used to the differences, I have come to like the art style a lot and there are some things about the game I have actually grown to love. Unfortunately, it still does not have that wow factor, but maybe futute releases will bring something to wow me.
I think that what always excites me about the next iteration of any series is seeing what kind of boundaries devs will push and how the series will evolve. But, with TS4 I just don't see it as a next step or an evolution. And with a lot of great titles in 2013 and 2014, it was disheartening to see one of my favorite series kind of get left behind. I mean, I've still never seen a game do aging and life stages the way Sims 2 did, or do customization the way that Sims 3 did. These were huge ideas. I don't think 4 is bad, I just think it's in a position where it's overshadowed by other games that are continuing to evolve. Take something like weather. It was groundbreaking during the Sims 2 era, but now many games have at least basic weather patterns and yet we still lack that in TS4.
I don't know. Interesting point anyway. If there is to be a Sims 5, I wonder what direction they'll take it in. Did Sims 4 really grow out of a rescued recipe? How different would it have been if they'd had more time?
Your mileage may very.
For me, I believe TS4 will take about 3 or 4 before I can get into playing it. That wasn't the case with TS2 and TS3.
Right now, I can only get as far as exploring new content. After that I have no desire to play.
I think Generations and University will do it for me, but still, this isn't the game I was hoping it would be and I doubt it ever will.
I still think I will enjoy it once all the expansion packs are created, but I am already hoping TS5 will give us TS2 game play, TS3 CASt and open world (even if it's on a smaller scale), and TS4's Sims (not its age stages) and build mode. TS4's art style is OK, but I would want more detailed meshes and textures.
There is no truth to your opinion that the game is lacking. You feel that way and people who enjoy the Sims 4 are not wrong for liking it. They are not right for liking it. They simply have an opinion that they like a game, you simply have an opinion that you don't. Again, not right or wrong and not true or false.
Also, incorrect on your second point. I had a great experience with 3. I had a custom gaming computer built for Sims 3 (I literally play no other games that require download beyond Sims). Loved, loved, loved it. I also happen to love, love love, Sims 4. Has nothing to do with 3. My love of 4 comes from the 100s of hours I've spent on it. Looking at it as its own game and not constantly comparing it to something else.
Remember the outcry? "That looks terrible!" "What year do they think this is, 1999?" "Where are their eyelashes?"
We were assured by other posters that this was an alpha render or some other plum, and that the graphics would be much improved at release.
They weren't.
Now, graphics aren't everything, but they are part of my enjoyment of video games. I can't get past the look of TS4, such a fail for me.
I like their look, even liked the early renders more but the gameplay....is poor.
I'm sorry but didn't You read what I said ?
I exactly said "Now before I say anything I want You to know that I do like The Sims 4 & I enjoy Playing it & I'm not a hater or anything "
"The Sims 4 is not a bad game after all "
"If You have different opinions than mine please say them in a respectful way"
I also mentioned that the sims 3 was buggy "& if it wasn't so buggy"
& I never said that my opinion was a fact & or anything like that.
sorry but Your comment is so irrelevant and it sounds like You didn't even read my post, You just replied to what didn't appeal to You and left the rest which is completely immature.
Thank You so much
Talking about the Sims 4, graphically... Yes, the graphics are nothing special, but I DO love how the sims looks this time around. Very cartoony and cute. There have been a few positive upgrades since the initial release though. The whited-out town view in the initial release was a bad decision.
The Sims 2 - For me, I honestly loved the game and I really do enjoy it whenever I play but the game feels like a chore often, when I'm not tending to my Sims Needs I'm usually tending to my other Sims' Needs.
There is some free-time when I don't have to worry about doing chores(even though I actually enjoy the chores) but that comes occasionally unless I buy a bunch of Perks and better items to slow down their Needs decay otherwise I can only ignore it to continue the story the way I wish, but even then, Sims who are overall unhappy refuse to do most things, which I really disliked.
I'm happy that with The Sims 4, things don't feel like a chore because Needs are easily fulfilled and I'm honestly enjoying the extra free-time my Sims have despite the lack of activities and hobbies(I hope we get lots more!) and I especially like how Sims will still do the tasks you tell them to, even if they're in a bad mood(kind of like in real life
The Sims 3 - I also loved The Sims 3 even though I never play it as much now. It was still the game I enjoyed and the game that inevitably got me into buying The Sims 4, apart from The Sims 2, it was The Sims 3 that really got me into Simulators.
I even have the game on console, however, after a while, it felt quite empty to me despite being an open world and after I got more content, my game started to lag out like crazy
Rabbit holes and Careers weren't much of a problem for me but I did get deterred from them since the rabbit holes felt pointless as I basically watched a building for a minute and I didn't like having to make friends in order to progress in careers(not to mention how I barely found Sims to make friends with at public venues which is a nice change in The Sims 4).
But the biggest problem I have with The Sims 3 is how I greatly risk getting performance issues if I try to use all the content I spent my money on. When I bought all these Packs, I expected to be able to use all of them and it disheartens me how I'll face lag just by installing more than 3 EPs and a certain number of SPs and Store Content :c
I'm glad that The Sims 4 doesn't limit me on how many Packs I can use whilst still keeping performance up and I certainly grew a liking to socializing with The Sims 4, something I either didn't have time to do or didn't feel like doing in previous iterations.
Sometimes your creativity is limited where you use it most, but you can use those limitations to inspire new forms of creativity you may never have thought of beforehand.
Than you are one of the second group I've mentioned. You are one of the lucky ones that can appreciate the sims 4 without toddlers, significant family play, Create a style, color of hair indipendent from the hairstyles, colour wheel, open world, actual events in the town, lot like cemetary, story progression, terrain tools, create a world, saturation sliders for make up, cars, good genetics, signifcant NPCs (and others I'm now forgetting at the moment)
The sims 4 lack a lot of stuff. There is no denyng it. A game can be appreciated without some stuff, but me, and if I have to guess by forums, facebook, and other media, the things that the sims 4 lack are a problem in appreciate the game for a non small part of players.
Every version I have ever played, I have always hated at least some part of it. As much as I loved TS2, I hated the fact that no other sims aged unless you played them and that time at home stood still while I was at a community Lot. I loved TS3 (and I didn't have a bad experience with it) but I hated the way the sims looked and moved and the fact that certain things could totally ruin the game (eg. I had to turn off memories to stop game bloat, I had to turn off the celebrities and supernaturals spawning cos I didn't like them in my game). Now I like TS4 but I hate that there are no toddlers in it, I don't like the changing emotions or useless traits and I detest the culling.
It's all swings and roundabouts. TS4's position in my favourites will depend on how and where EA go with it for the rest of the EPs, patches etc.
A hint of story progression was already in the sims 2. In one of the last expansions (probably patch. At the time me and many players didn't have internet at home, so patch were inside the expansions) since sims could have friends that didn't live in the house pass of age when your sims grow up.
Toddlers were already in the sims 2, like good family play. NPCs were even more present than in the sims 3. Baby sitters, gardeners, burglars... all were there. And most of them were in the sims 3 too.
Doesn't matter that in the sims 4 the devs decided that all these things (plus preferences, zodiac signs, and many traits that aren't in the sims 4) weren't to be put in there. Those were part of the sims. A sequel should do stuff better, and not take away, I'll always resent the sims 3 to not have fears and the diary, but how many things it gains? the sims 4 didn't gave back what it had takes, in my opinion, and that, even more than taking away stuff that was considered basic and part of the brand, is what make the sims 4 even more lacking in my opinion.
Oh, and terrain tools were a basic feature, that if I remember correctly was, maybe slightly different, already in the first the sims (I can't remember much, too many years have passed).
Sims2 is actually the only one in the series to actually have genetics, where brown eye/brown hair was dominant and blue eye/blonde hair was recessive, to where even if you changed the hair color of a sim, the game would remember the original color and pass it off to the child and not the color change. Actual genetics was never in Sims3 and was left out from Sims2.
Story progression is about the same for Sims3 as it is in Sims4. In sims3, you needed NRAAS to make your world work right, in Sims4 its the MC_Command Center. Story progression for Sims3 is pretty much broken, the popularity and necessity of NRAAS would indicate that it is.
Even with all that is "missing" from the game as it is put, I would much rather play this version of the Sims over a complete Sims3 any day of the week. Why does it constantly seem that if you like Sims4, there must be something wrong with you and the way you enjoy your game.
Personally I like TS4 because it doesn't have open world, CaST or story progression for example. I'm glad they removed the things I didn't like