In my opinion outdoor retreat made the game better.
It gave us more things to do that's for sure. I own it and don't regret the purchase. However there're other things I would have done before Outdoor Retreat.
I will admit I want a lot more but I have faith EA/Maxis will add tons thru gamepacks,expansions and maybe stuff packs. Remember the first ep isn't out yet.
The thing is CLP, we shouldn't need expansions to complete the base, or to make it more enjoyable to play. It should be able to stand on it's own, with expansions expanding on the gameplay.
I mentioned before that Sims1, Sims2 and Sims3 all had EP releases by 6 months of the base game release.
It is now 4 1/2 months since base game release and not even an announcement of an EP has been made.
Just the release of a glorified stuff pack they now call a game pack.
I find it odd nothing has been announced...unless there will not be EPs and EA plans on sticking with overpriced 'game packs'?
That is so true. I don't think EA wants to waste money on an EP because the game hasn't done that well. They may see it as a waste of money.
Star and cloudgazing
Lots of new recipes
Campfires
Portable Showers
Coolers that actually work
And so much more.
I'm glad you're happy with it.
Cat I can always count on you to be so upbeat but I have to say none of what you mentioned is going to change the basic game play and that's what I have a problem with.
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TS4 is an example of what not to do if you had one of the best pc games of all time. You don't half bake it and double the price.
Maxis has no control over the prices honestly. EA is.
Since EA is headquartered in the United States, they make their own prices in the United States. In other countries, such as Australia, EA (or Maxis) has no control over the prices; that is up to the foreign government.
ON TOPIC: Sims 4 isn't what it could be, and I think EA knows that. They are trying to make up for it. They aren't fixing it, which is what needs to be done. Sims 4 needs to be unflopped.
What EA may see as wasting money on making improvements may actually be what saves the game. Why can't they own up that they made Sims 4 less as amazing as the other games? Why are they parading it around? Learn from your mistakes!
So much more can be added. Sims 4 has potential. I believe this. EA is going about this all wrong. This is what frustrates me. Well, along with the lack of toddlers.
Why not glance at these threads? If EA looked and took the time, I'll guarantee: each second is worth more than a dime.
ON TOPIC: Sims 4 isn't what it could be, and I think EA knows that. They are trying to make up for it. They aren't fixing it, which is what needs to be done. Sims 4 needs to be unflopped.
What EA may see as wasting money on making improvements may actually be what saves the game. Why can't they own up that they made Sims 4 less as amazing as the other games? Why are they parading it around? Learn from your mistakes!
So much more can be added. Sims 4 has potential. I believe this. EA is going about this all wrong. This is what frustrates me. Well, along with the lack of toddlers.
Why not glance at these threads? If EA looked and took the time, I'll guarantee: each second is worth more than a dime.
What they need to do is start from scratch admit what TS4 is and try to get back the people the shoved out of the way to make a grab for younger players which last I checked do not have gaming budgets. They get money from mom and dad....and many of us moms and dads will flat out say no to a $70.00 game kids will loose interest in a week or two thanks. I love what the sims was not what they made it.
It's quite drop from the top, so how ya feeling down there?
Star and cloudgazing
Lots of new recipes
Campfires
Portable Showers
Coolers that actually work
And so much more.
I'm glad you like the game but the problem is that the base is empty and linear. I played Sims 2 and 3 for a long time without EPs and I only bought the EPs because I thought it added something cool, not to fix a broken game.
In my opinion outdoor retreat made the game better.
I do believe this game will bounce back. It will never be the game I personally was hoping for, nor get back the features I liked most, but if EA brings back enough key features and fix enough bugs, I believe simmers will shell out the money. It might take four expansion packs before I buy in though. If they can't whip it into shape by then...
Come again? TS4 game engine seems extremely limited so how do you suppose they bring back enough key features from past base games or even some EP's? While I don't know the capabilities of the game engine of TS4, I feel TS2 has a better game engine and that's from 2004. I love my clothes and grocery shopping. Plus all those in-depth animations and no disappearing/reappearing act like TS3/TS4.
Besides, "It's too difficult and expensive."
Welcome to the new era of a new kind of gamer. Simplify it but charge the premium please.
“What doesn't kill you makes you stronger
Stand a little taller
Doesn't mean I'm lonely when I'm alone
What doesn't kill you makes a fighter
Footsteps even lighter”
TS4 is an example of what not to do if you had one of the best pc games of all time. You don't half bake it and double the price.
Maxis has no control over the prices honestly. EA is.
Since EA is headquartered in the United States, they make their own prices in the United States. In other countries, such as Australia, EA (or Maxis) has no control over the prices; that is up to the foreign government.
EA does yes. But EA choose their price point-the governments don't choose the price points! EA factor taxes etc into prices but thats all that happens. Governments are too busy to be setting up prices for products from every company that deals in their country!
ON TOPIC: Sims 4 isn't what it could be, and I think EA knows that. They are trying to make up for it. They aren't fixing it, which is what needs to be done. Sims 4 needs to be unflopped.
What EA may see as wasting money on making improvements may actually be what saves the game. Why can't they own up that they made Sims 4 less as amazing as the other games? Why are they parading it around? Learn from your mistakes!
So much more can be added. Sims 4 has potential. I believe this. EA is going about this all wrong. This is what frustrates me. Well, along with the lack of toddlers.
Why not glance at these threads? If EA looked and took the time, I'll guarantee: each second is worth more than a dime.
They're probably looking at this in a business perspective, instead of trying to please its fans. They already wasted a ton of money by trying to make TSO, they see *spending* money to fix an unsuccessful game *wasteful*.
Even the game tells us, when you're in the tech career you have the option to please your fans or not, and pleasing fans makes you lose profit ...
Who knows what their next move will be, but I hope they make it clear soon.
In my opinion outdoor retreat made the game better.
I do believe this game will bounce back. It will never be the game I personally was hoping for, nor get back the features I liked most, but if EA brings back enough key features and fix enough bugs, I believe simmers will shell out the money. It might take four expansion packs before I buy in though. If they can't whip it into shape by then...
Come again? TS4 game engine seems extremely limited so how do you suppose they bring back enough key features from past base games or even some EP's? While I don't know the capabilities of the game engine of TS4, I feel TS2 has a better game engine and that's from 2004. I love my clothes and grocery shopping. Plus all those in-depth animations and no disappearing/reappearing act like TS3/TS4.
Besides, "It's too difficult and expensive."
Welcome to the new era of a new kind of gamer. Simplify it but charge the premium please.
This is why I have not one shred of trust in EA/Maxis
It's quite drop from the top, so how ya feeling down there?
as a fellow simmer can i please ask that we stop fighting each other if we went to see a the sims5 in a few years from now we need to stop fighting each other we might all have diffrent opinions or things we went in the game.
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as a fellow simmer can i please ask that we stop fighting each other if we went to see a the sims5 in a few years from now we need to stop fighting each other we might all have diffrent opinions or things we went in the game.
Nobody is fighting here. What are you talking about?
as a fellow simmer can i please ask that we stop fighting each other if we went to see a the sims5 in a few years from now we need to stop fighting each other we might all have diffrent opinions or things we went in the game.
No one is fighting @Memina11. The moderators are very good here and can look after the forums so you don't need to worry
About 4.5 months ago I would've been really optimistic about the game and going on and on about how I believe the Gurus are doing their best for the series. Now? If they stop producing this game I'd like the $80+ I spent on this empty headed game and the $20 for the Guide and another $20 for the DLC. Checkmate, EA.
Even the game tells us, when you're in the tech career you have the option to please your fans or not, and pleasing fans makes you lose profit...
Pleasing fans still make you lose profit no matter what. People will find things to complain about no matter what.
My complaining shouldn't bother them. My refusing to buy anything until those loading screens are fixed, however, hopefully will bother them a bit. If I were complaining and buying anyway, they'd have no reason to fix a thing.
as a fellow simmer can i please ask that we stop fighting each other if we went to see a the sims5 in a few years from now we need to stop fighting each other we might all have diffrent opinions or things we went in the game.
No one is coming out with bruises from this thread, it's just discussions
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Star and cloudgazing
Lots of new recipes
Campfires
Portable Showers
Coolers that actually work
And so much more.
LOOOOOOOOOL. I can't. Oh my... It's a joke? Just a bear? Oh man. I know why Sims 4 is what is it, now. The king of flop games.
It gave us more things to do that's for sure. I own it and don't regret the purchase. However there're other things I would have done before Outdoor Retreat.
The thing is CLP, we shouldn't need expansions to complete the base, or to make it more enjoyable to play. It should be able to stand on it's own, with expansions expanding on the gameplay.
A gift for everyone posting here for remaining respectful and staying on topic
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And those brownies...
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That is so true. I don't think EA wants to waste money on an EP because the game hasn't done that well. They may see it as a waste of money.
TS4 is an example of what not to do if you had one of the best pc games of all time. You don't half bake it and double the price.
I'm glad you're happy with it.
Cat I can always count on you to be so upbeat but I have to say none of what you mentioned is going to change the basic game play and that's what I have a problem with.
Maxis has no control over the prices honestly. EA is.
Since EA is headquartered in the United States, they make their own prices in the United States. In other countries, such as Australia, EA (or Maxis) has no control over the prices; that is up to the foreign government.
ON TOPIC: Sims 4 isn't what it could be, and I think EA knows that. They are trying to make up for it. They aren't fixing it, which is what needs to be done. Sims 4 needs to be unflopped.
What EA may see as wasting money on making improvements may actually be what saves the game. Why can't they own up that they made Sims 4 less as amazing as the other games? Why are they parading it around? Learn from your mistakes!
So much more can be added. Sims 4 has potential. I believe this. EA is going about this all wrong. This is what frustrates me. Well, along with the lack of toddlers.
Why not glance at these threads? If EA looked and took the time, I'll guarantee: each second is worth more than a dime.
Edit: Sorry. My bad for trying to be optimistic.
What they need to do is start from scratch admit what TS4 is and try to get back the people the shoved out of the way to make a grab for younger players which last I checked do not have gaming budgets. They get money from mom and dad....and many of us moms and dads will flat out say no to a $70.00 game kids will loose interest in a week or two thanks. I love what the sims was not what they made it.
I'm glad you like the game but the problem is that the base is empty and linear. I played Sims 2 and 3 for a long time without EPs and I only bought the EPs because I thought it added something cool, not to fix a broken game.
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Thank you @MDianaSanders for halloween-fying Golluma
Come again? TS4 game engine seems extremely limited so how do you suppose they bring back enough key features from past base games or even some EP's? While I don't know the capabilities of the game engine of TS4, I feel TS2 has a better game engine and that's from 2004. I love my clothes and grocery shopping. Plus all those in-depth animations and no disappearing/reappearing act like TS3/TS4.
Besides, "It's too difficult and expensive."
Welcome to the new era of a new kind of gamer. Simplify it but charge the premium please.
Stand a little taller
Doesn't mean I'm lonely when I'm alone
What doesn't kill you makes a fighter
Footsteps even lighter”
EA does yes. But EA choose their price point-the governments don't choose the price points! EA factor taxes etc into prices but thats all that happens. Governments are too busy to be setting up prices for products from every company that deals in their country!
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They're probably looking at this in a business perspective, instead of trying to please its fans. They already wasted a ton of money by trying to make TSO, they see *spending* money to fix an unsuccessful game *wasteful*.
Even the game tells us, when you're in the tech career you have the option to please your fans or not, and pleasing fans makes you lose profit ...
Who knows what their next move will be, but I hope they make it clear soon.
Pleasing fans still make you lose profit no matter what. People will find things to complain about no matter what.
This is why I have not one shred of trust in EA/Maxis
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No one is fighting @Memina11. The moderators are very good here and can look after the forums so you don't need to worry
https://twitter.com/sparkfairy1
My complaining shouldn't bother them. My refusing to buy anything until those loading screens are fixed, however, hopefully will bother them a bit. If I were complaining and buying anyway, they'd have no reason to fix a thing.
No one is coming out with bruises from this thread, it's just discussions