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Community Lot Guide - 7/9/2012 - Updated up to SN

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geminiagregeminiagre Posts: 6,906 Member
When I build a world, I always forget a community lot or I mess up with the sizes of lots when i want to place a rabbithole. Sometimes it's huge and sometimes it's too small.
I can always plop the lot from the bin, but what if i want to have a unique one?

This guide will help all of us remmber all the community lots that we can include in our world and the sizes of rabbitholes and LN Metropolitan buildings.


First of all the community lots you can create

Base Game
Town Hall
Hospital
Military Base
Theater
Parks
Gym
Art Gallery
Bookstore
School
Groccery Store
Diner
Pool
Science Facility
Business Buildings
Grave Yard
Warehouse
Spa
Bistro
Stadium
Library
Fishing Spots
Police Department
Beaches
Community Center/College ( Add skill objects, maybe a pool and a hangout area, some arcades also can add more fun items from later EPs)
Community Garden (label as small park- like the one in Twinbrook next to the pool- thanks to Happyjme for the idea)

WA
Nectary
Dojo (labeled as Academy)
Tombs (Landmark or Hidden - thanks to happyjme for pointing out)
Chinese Garden (thanks to Damien for reminding me)
Market
Camping Lot (thanks to BimleSim)

Ambitions
Hangout
Salon
Fire Station
Jankyard ( and Jankyard No visitors - thanks to Damien for letting me know that this might be handy to list as well)
Consignment Store
Laundromat
Art School (idea by Damien-Add easels, drafting tables, sculpting stations )

Fast Lane
Gas Station (add gas pumps, a small shop with a register the twizy station if you have it - label as hangout )

LN
Dive Bar
Fusion Lounge
Vampire Lounge
Exclusive Lounge
Dance Club
Disco Club
Sports Bar
Watering Hole
Pool Side Club (thanks to Damien for the reminder)
Backlot
Video Arcade (idea by Damien-add arcade mashines and video games, a small cafeteria label as hangout)
Aquarium (idea by Damien- add lots of aquariums, digital ones and normal ones and possibly label as art galery)

Generations
Playground Park
Wedding lot (label as: park, meseum or exclusive lounge for the lot to appear in the drop down menu when planning a wedding party exclusive lounge idea credits to happyjme)
Chemistry Lab (idea by damien)
Daycare (residential Lot)

Pets
Equestrian Center
Horse Ranch
Cat Jungle
Dog Park
Pet Store (requires Limited Edition)

Ford Focus 2012 Set
Skydiving Lot (Visitors Allowed -Rabbit Hole)

Showtime
(After Patch 1.36 you can simply add stages to specific community lots and they will also work as ST Venues - Gredits for the info to SimsVIP and MTS)
Park Venue - Big Park (works also in Graveyard, Fishing Spot, Beach)
Coffehouse (works also in Pool, Gym, Library, Dive Bar)
Live Show Venue (works also in Hangout, Dance Club)
Private Show Venue (Works alsoin Art Gallery, Lounge, Horse ranch)
Big Show Venue


Supernatural
Elixir Consignment Store
Supernatural Hangout

Now some of them are essential for gameplay, such as the school and townhall, and some of them are simple add ons to your world such as the dojo or the wedding lot. The add ons can be simply combined with other lots. For example you can add dojo equipment in the gym or wedding equipment in a park.

When it comes to rabbitholes or shell buildings, you have to know their exact size, in order to determine the size of the lot you are going to need, depending on what else you want to add to that lot. Below i'm listing all those buildings and the minimum possible size of lot they need to be placed on. Note that if you use that exact size, you will not have room for almost nothing else on that lot, such as plants, decorations, benches etch, and you will probably need to use the move objects cheat to place them (better place the building as back as possible so sims have decent access to the entrance). I added 1-3 grid tiles to the minimum size, in order for sims to at least have room to move around.The first number is the front and the second the side

Base Game
City Hall 52x25
Community School for the gifted 38x24
Divisadero Budget Books 12x16
Doo Peas Corporate Towers 24x26 (corner)
Everfresh Delights Super Market 20x16 (corner)
Fort Gnome Military Base 44x44 (corner)
Hogan's Deep Fried Diner 22x14
Landgrab Undustries Science Facility 40x24
Little Corsican Bistro 20x18
Llama Memorial Stadium 54x36
Outstanding Citizen Warehouse 26x24
Police Department 22x24
Sacred Spleen Memorial Hospital 36x30
Sharma Day Spa 16x16
Spacter Family Mausoleum 8x12
Wilsonoff Community Theatre 20x28

WA
Chinese Mausoleum 10x12
Egyptian Mausoleum 10x12


Ambitions
Always Studious BookStore 12x16
Bachelor Stadium 52x36
Brunton's Boxacar Diner 12x10
Groccery Grab Super Market 20x16 (corner)
High Products Business Building 26x26 (corner)
Jolina Family Mausoleum 8x12
Llama Corp Shipping Co 30x24
Science Lab 38x24
Sims in Arms Military base 44x44 (corner)
Story Community School 36x28
Twinbrook City Hall 52x26
Twinbrook Foundation Hospital 36x28

LN
East Tradewinds Shipping Co 30x26
Landgrab Marine Science facility 40x24
Llama Co Stadium 46x58
Mike's Cornerstore 20x16 (corner)
Movie Cineplex 36x38 (corner)
Plumbob Pictures Backlot 38x34
Public Schoool 67 44x24
Piblic Service Office 52x26
Steve's BusinessComplex and Restaurant 26x26 (corner)
Wiki's Fabulus Books and Bath 32x32
Metropolitan Buildings found in buydebug:
38x38 (1)
32x32 (5)
36x24 (11)
24x24 (12)

TL
Fresh and Frozen Express Grocer 14x18 (corner)
Par Excellence Preparatory School 34x26
Scrumptious Nibbles Cafe 17x17 (corner)

Pets
Appaloosa Plains Civic Center 36x24
Butterfield Family Mausoleum 8x9
Crestview School and Stadium 58x35
Darris Teeter Art Theater 23x31
Darris Teeter Grocery & The Koffi Cafe 24x18
Hueber Associates & Kim Gould's Steakhouse 32x32
JRA International Equestrian Center 38x56
Petite Pony Equestrian Center 38x38
Rustler's Den 19x14
Walls Book 'n Bath LLC 19x19 (corner)
Waylon's Water Tower 20x20
Wolfson's Hospital and Research Facility 36x36 (corner)

Showtime
Broad Street Business Tower & Grill 36x25 (bistro and business)
C-Ment Shoe Factory 50x42
City Government Complex 52x35
Flying V's Coffehouse 20x18 (ST version of Diner)
Gooder Public School 52x38
Holy Cow Memorial Hospital 45x30
Jimmy Lemmon Memorial Mausoleum 14x16
Serenity Bookstore and Spa 35x18
The Market Basket 32x25
Showtime Shells Available in Buydebug (due to coding sensitivity only two are available):
Los Suenos Private Club 40x45
Metropolitan Building 53x53
Additional items you might need to take into considaration when deciding venue lot sizes:
Big Show crowd 30x20
Show Floor for benches 2x4
Show Floor for tables 3x3
Show Stage 8x7
Stage Rigs (3) 16x9 - No extra tiles added

Due to the fact that some of the shells are missing, as they act as rabbitholes as well (stadium and theater. Ultimate one acts as theater as well), and the complexity of creating your own venues, I'm also adding all the venue lot sizes from SS just in case you want to place them as is by plopping them down from your bin:
Big Show Venue - The Binder Clips Center 64x64 (stadium - Shell/rabbit hall N/A in buydebug)
Big Show Venue - Hoi Polloi Event Center 64x64 (theater - Shell/rabbit hall N/A in buydebug)
Private Show Venue - Brotherhood of the Fine Fellows Hall 60x60
Private Show Venue - Port a Party Warehouse 55x30
Private Show Venue - Los Suenos Private Club - 40x55
Live Show Venue - Mick's Master Karaoke 32x29
Live Show Venue - MN8 35x35
Live Show Venue - Rodeo Go Go 32x35
Coffeehouse - Flying V's Coffeehouse 20x34 (includes diner rabbithole)
Big park - Park Verde 64x64

Please also read this post by WR about creating Venues and why you can't combine them with LN lots http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/516259.page#7997909

Supernatural
Bloom Institute of Wellness 30x24
Commonwealth Court 42x30
Deja View Theater 20x30
Everglow Academy & Coloseum 59x42
Fae Ray Arboretum 9x10
Gypsy Wagon 6x11
Hallowed Mausoleum 10x10
Mind-Body Connection Bookstore & Spa 26x20
Sam's Market Diner 25x15
Van Gould Merchant House & Cafe 24x18
Vault of Antiquity 8x12

Riverview
City Hall 35x24
Countrycare General Hospital 36x32
Doo Peas Corporate Towers 24x26 (corner)
Fort Salas Military Base 44x44 (corner)
Soil and Water Research Facility 38x24
Sunflower Spa 18x16
Truelong Community School 38x24

BB, HS, DrPeper, Store
Hogan's Deep Sea Diner (BB) 30x12
Metropolis Movie Theater (DrP) 26x30
Dr Pepepr stadium 53x38
Renault Charging Station 36x30
Hidden Springs Day Spa 37x37 - (42x32 if placed diagonialy as is in HS) (corner)
Ford Focus Sky Diving Center 20x20
Large Rustic Barn (HS) 14x14
Rustic Barn (HS) 9x13
Base Game Rabbit hole Portals (LL) 12x12
The Perigee (LL) 50x38
Lucky Palms
-The Blooming Cactus Bistro 17x25
-Area 52 Test Labs 40x24
-Sun Health Hospital 36x30
-Brittlebush Academy 38x24
-City Hall 52x25
-Local Law Enforcement 22x24
-Imagine That! Theater 20x28
-Goody's Groceries 20x16
-The Solitary Novel 12x16
-Desert Diner 22x14
-Sahara Corporate Headquarters 24x26
-Lucky Llamas Stadium 54x36
-Desert Arms Military base 44x44
-The Warehouse 26x24
-Silver Swallow Day Spa 16x16
Sunlit Tides
-Captain Jack's Theater 20x25
-City Hall 30x20
-Coconut Palms Medical Facility 25x37
-Dreams Of Paradise Day Spa 17x18
-Grotto Groceries 20x20
-Island Police Headquarters 30x20
-Mango's Military Base 20x25/25x20(depends on what you consider the front)
-Midnight Moon Bistro 18x20
-Pleasant Pages Bookstore 15x20
-Riku's Luau Diner 11x16
-Sand, Sun annd Surf Corp. 25x15
-Seaside Sports Center 23x11
-Serpentine Labs 26x27
-The Island Academy 22x19
-The Lair 56x56

Store Built Venues
Olympian Physic (Gym) 40x30
Gothic Library (Library) 30x40
Regency Arcade (Arcade) 40x30
Pet Store 30x20 (requieres Limited Edition)
Ultimate Venue (ST -Limited Edition) 64x64 - Shell NOT available in Buydebug. Also acts as theater rabbit hole
The Lucky Simoleon Casino (Lucky Palms Gold) 60x60
Community Lot (Sunlit Tides Gold) 30x30

I hope this is helpfull to every one. I'm sorry if this has been posted again.

Have fun world building!



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Comments

  • Rflong13Rflong13 Posts: 682 Member
    edited May 2011
    Hi, :mrgreen:

    Awesome information. I bet a lot of people will appreciate it. I'm gonna book mark it now to share when needed. :thumbup:
  • ConorsimConorsim Posts: 5,898 Member
    edited May 2011
    Brilliant, Gem! They'll definitely come in handy - particularly the sizes - as it's hard to jugdge it in CAW. :mrgreen:
  • Meadow9259Meadow9259 Posts: 91 New Member
    edited May 2011
    Thanks, this will come in handy!
  • auntielyndsauntielynds Posts: 3,071 Member
    edited May 2011
    Nice checklist for building. If it's okay, I'll link in the FAQ. :-)
  • comesailawaycomesailaway Posts: 98 New Member
    edited May 2011
    Bookmarked for future reference. This will be a big help with the world that I just started on.
  • Damienf519Damienf519 Posts: 6,486 Member
    edited May 2011
    Geminiagre,

    Its nice, but You forgot to include the Chinese Garden under "World Adventures," and the Junkyard, and Junkyard No Visitors Allowed under "Ambitions." Also, I have Fast Lane Installed, and I've been playing with it for awhile, and I don't remember it coming with a gas station community lot. It comes with gas pumps, That are just for decor, but it doesn't come with any new community lots, nor does it allow you to designate a lot as a gas station.
  • geminiagregeminiagre Posts: 6,906 Member
    edited May 2011
    @Damien I'm not listing the lots that came with the EPs, but the lots you can make and would be a nice addition to any world.That's why i added Gas station. I did forget the chinese garden, thank you for reminding me. As for the Jankyard. I did not forget it I just wrote "jankyard" in general. It's up to the creator/user if they want to add an additional "no visitors" one. I never use the "no visitor" Junk yeards because i have no idea why they are necessery. I will update my first post though because since you mentioned it, it seems that it might be usefull to other simmers as well,

    @auntie Yes you can add this to the FAQ thread :)

    @everyone You are welcome guys :) I firstly made this for myself. Not only for CAW , but for worlds that are already in game and i just want to revamp them to have all the lots of all the EPs and then I thought it would be a good idea to share it.

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  • BimleSimBimleSim Posts: 2,973 Member
    edited May 2011
    Arigto arigato arigato arigato arigato ARIGATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
  • geminiagregeminiagre Posts: 6,906 Member
    edited May 2011
    LOL! you are welcome!

    Anata wa kangei sa rete (if this is corect by google translate)
    Hopefully i didn't curse you or something

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  • BimleSimBimleSim Posts: 2,973 Member
    edited May 2011
    geminiagre wrote:
    LOL! you are welcome!

    Anata wa kangei sa rete (if this is corect by google translate)
    Hopefully i didn't curse you or something
    Teehee I'm not even Japanese I just really like their country >3<
    So I say small replys like "hello" or "thanks" in japanese XD
  • pyrochemistpyrochemist Posts: 73
    edited May 2011
    Thank you, this will be really useful (bookmarked)
  • AHENRICHsAHENRICHs Posts: 1,678 Member
    edited May 2011
    very useful! :D
  • Damienf519Damienf519 Posts: 6,486 Member
    edited May 2011
    geminiagre wrote:
    @Damien I'm not listing the lots that came with the EPs, but the lots you can make and would be a nice addition to any world.That's why i added Gas station. I did forget the chinese garden, thank you for reminding me. As for the Jankyard. I did not forget it I just wrote "jankyard" in general. It's up to the creator/user if they want to add an additional "no visitors" one. I never use the "no visitor" Junk yeards because i have no idea why they are necessery. I will update my first post though because since you mentioned it, it seems that it might be usefull to other simmers as well,

    @auntie Yes you can add this to the FAQ thread :)

    @everyone You are welcome guys :) I firstly made this for myself. Not only for CAW , but for worlds that are already in game and i just want to revamp them to have all the lots of all the EPs and then I thought it would be a good idea to share it.

    Geminiagre,

    Thanks. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
  • geminiagregeminiagre Posts: 6,906 Member
    edited May 2011
    No prob damien :)

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  • Damienf519Damienf519 Posts: 6,486 Member
    edited May 2011
    Geminiagre,

    You know, if you want ideas for venues to create that don't officially exist in the game, but might be useful to have, I can give you a few more. All of these I've either made at one point or another or I'm planning on making in the future.

    If you have Late Night you can make a/an

    Video Arcade: Basically its a building with multiple arcade machines, and bar games, but no bar. It might be a nice place for kids and teens to hang out after school, especially if they are not athletic.

    Aquarium: Make a building with a bunch of those electronic fish tanks. It will be mostly for show, but it still might be fun for your sims to visit.

    If you have Ambitions you can make a/an

    Art School: Just a room or two with desks, and a couple easels and sculpting stations and some drafting tables

    If you have Generations installed, you might be able to make a

    Chemistry Lab: If the chemistry set is usable on community lots, this might actually be a good idea.

  • geminiagregeminiagre Posts: 6,906 Member
    edited May 2011
    those are good ideas Damien :) i will update thanks!!

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  • BimleSimBimleSim Posts: 2,973 Member
    edited May 2011
    You can also make hotels or camping lots ^^
    (For camping you need the tents from WA though, which means you have to use buydebug)
  • Damienf519Damienf519 Posts: 6,486 Member
    edited May 2011
    geminiagre wrote:
    those are good ideas Damien :) i will update thanks!!

    You're welcome. Sorry it took me a long time to notice your response.

    Under Late Night, you could also add "Pool Side Club." I pretty much just finished the one I made for Justinburg.
  • JBAG521JBAG521 Posts: 2,759 Member
    edited August 2011
    I was just writing all these down for when I start my World (hopefully tomorrow after research) and I found a couple of other people that have posted different lot sizes than you. I was just wondering why this is so and which one is correct?
  • VanillaTwilight93VanillaTwilight93 Posts: 349 Member
    edited August 2011
    I think its because on here it lists the actual sizes of the rabbit holes and other people list the sizes of the whole lot that the rabbit hole is on including landscaping/paths and other extra stuff.
    For example the Sunset valley city hall rabbit hole is 52x25 but the sunset valley city hall lot is 64x48.
    So it depends if you want to add your own landscaping or not. :mrgreen:

  • JBAG521JBAG521 Posts: 2,759 Member
    edited August 2011
    So if I dont want to add anything, I just go by the ones that are posted here?
  • WombasticWombastic Posts: 116
    edited August 2011
    As the OP said, her listings are building size plus a square or two, so going by the ones here should be fine. The Pasimfic Wiki has a listing which is base size with no squares added.

    And thanks for the mention of the Twizy! I just downloaded that set; I always like to hear about new free sets.
  • JBAG521JBAG521 Posts: 2,759 Member
    edited August 2011
    Thanks for getting back to me so quickly :)
  • geminiagregeminiagre Posts: 6,906 Member
    edited December 2011
    I'll be updating the thread soon for TL and Pets Rabbit holes Plus Store venues

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  • rjdreamer53rjdreamer53 Posts: 1,050 Member
    edited December 2011
    Great post! I needed this years ago :mrgreen:. But will book mark it...
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