What are peoples thoughts on "stealing" In the gallery? «12345678...Next Go

ropodog

Well I'm gunna just say it....I feel like creations are being stolen. If you download from me or anyone else I don't feel like you should re-upload the creation. If you modify the creation (example: change furnishing in a home, change a sim slightly) then you should always credit the original creator in the description. I know that some feel like this is not an issue, and that when you up-load something it is for others to use. Which I agree. Things in the gallery ARE for other people to use. Use in their game....not use to re-upload into the gallery so that they can get some downloads. There has also been an increase in "stolen" things receiving Maxis Faves. I think it would be a good idea to have a way to not allow re-uploading. I know that there is the original by tag, but it seems like that is not enough. It is very easy for people to get around the original tag and remove it from the creations. Some people I'm sure disagree with me, but this is how I feel about the subject of things being stolen. It has happened to me, which is why I feel pretty strongly about it. What are your guys thoughts? Is it theft? Admiration for the creation? Or just not a big deal?

Lemme know

Please don't be hateful towards one another in this thread. I'm hoping to have a very civil and adult debate here. Lets keep the Zagadoos to ourselves and just talk about it.

MandysAMess

I posted on the Ideas Board awhile back that I wish we could choose whether or not our creations can be re-uploaded. I was having issues with people re-uploading my lots & sims, claiming them as their own on blogs so I took everything out of my gallery & don't plan on sharing anymore, there's really no other option.

Scobre

It is rude. Lesser evil than stealing a mod or CC from someone and claiming it as your own, but still rude.

ironknight35

Anyone can do whatever they please with your creation if you make it public. I don't agree with anyone doing that though because I know people spend a lot of time making Sims/houses/rooms, but Its not stealing. No one owns anything they put on the gallery.

Mightydan

You're basically giving permission to everyone to use your creations as they please once you upload them to the gallery. Any simmer is free to download your creation and place it in their game, edit it, feed your sims to the cowplant, paint your house pink, etc.
Once uploaded to the gallery, our creations stop being ours and belong to EA.

Sure, everybody would like to be recognised and credited for their own creations. However, you must remember that this isn't a popularity contest. Don't make a big deal about it. The only thing that matters is that you're happy with your creations and are able to enjoy playing with them. Besides, I bet that most of these "thieves" are just kids reuploading stuff they like to the gallery. I doubt they're doing this with ill intent.

NOVEMBER_11SARAH

Yes!! I put my stuff on the gallery for other people to enjoy, not for others to steal what I create. I also hate it when a stolen house gets more downloads etc. I spent on average 5 to 10 hours creating each house, I hate it that someone can spent 5 seconds just to steal it and claim it as there own. That's why I stopped uploading, I still have people asking me to upload houses and feel really bad for them, because they want to actually use and enjoy my houses, but I don't feel as if my creations are safe from creation thefts.

MandysAMess

Mightydan wrote: »

You're basically giving permission to everyone to use your creations as they please once you upload them to the gallery. Any simmer is free to download your creation and place it in their game, edit it, feed your sims to the cowplant, paint your house pink, etc.
Once uploaded to the gallery, our creations stop being ours and belong to EA.

Sure, everybody would like to be recognised and credited for their own creations. However, you must remember that this isn't a popularity contest. Don't make a big deal about it. The only thing that matters is that you're happy with your creations and are able to enjoy playing with them. Besides, I bet that most of these "thieves" are just kids reuploading stuff they like to the gallery. I doubt they're doing this with ill intent.

I totally agree with you! I think the majority of the re-uploads aren't done to take credit or 'steal', a lot of people use the gallery as a back-up for their sims & lots and don't even think about it.

NOVEMBER_11SARAH

Mightydan wrote: »

You're basically giving permission to everyone to use your creations as they please once you upload them to the gallery. Any simmer is free to download your creation and place it in their game, edit it, feed your sims to the cowplant, paint your house pink, etc.
Once uploaded to the gallery, our creations stop being ours and belong to EA.

Sure, everybody would like to be recognised and credited for their own creations. However, you must remember that this isn't a popularity contest. Don't make a big deal about it. The only thing that matters is that you're happy with your creations and are able to enjoy playing with them. Besides, I bet that most of these "thieves" are just kids reuploading stuff they like to the gallery. I doubt they're doing this with ill intent.

Sometimes I think it could just be kids etc. but I kept having this person who had 100s of followers steal my creations and just re-upload them. They never changed anything about the house they would just re-upload it and because they were "Sims" famous they would always have more downloads from my stolen creations. That's why I stopped uploading houses and quite frankly we shouldn't have to stop uploading for fear of our creations getting stolen.

Colton147147

Once you upload to the Gallery, it is no longer yours. It is Maxis's.

windweaver

Look, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you hold no proprietary interest in anything you make in this game, therefore you have no legitimate claim to complain or even feel bad bc someone uses things from the gallery.

Did it ever occur to you that people use the gallery for their own personal storage unit? To place things they use in the game to use on another or new computer or in case they have to uninstall the game?

I'm sorry if I sound like a nasty old witch, I don't mean to.

I would think that if people are using your stuff and enjoying it, you would be happy not angry.

If their copy gets recognized by maxis, then complain to them.

DeKay

This is why I always keep my nice creations to myself unless I feel like sharing.

Rflong7

Actually, we do have claims of Plagiarism and Maxis will remove if it can be proven... at least they used to.

While we do give rights to Maxis and others to use and change and share- it's still our ideas..

Maxis has put in the names on uploads to try and reduce this because they Do Care about it. Report it if you can prove it.

SheriSim57

I personally don't mind people re-uploading the few things I have created, I just hope they enjoy them. Usually if I re-upload someone else's house or sim it's because I don't want to lose the sim, the house or inventory if my game crashes. (The community works like a cloud) And I let people know that it isn't my creation.

alanmichael1

I think the sudden increase of "stealing" is mainly a bug. If you have downloaded a lot from the gallery, you dont get rid of the original signature even if you completely bulldoze the lot. This has happened twice to me.

Goodywood

I think it is a big deal. Especially if you put a lot of work into it. I suggest not uploading it if your creations means that much to you. Prehaps make your own "robodog's Creations" thread? That way you can show off your creations without worrying that people will uploading it as their own. Maybe only give your creations via pms?

Goodywood

MandysAMess wrote: »

Mightydan wrote: »

You're basically giving permission to everyone to use your creations as they please once you upload them to the gallery. Any simmer is free to download your creation and place it in their game, edit it, feed your sims to the cowplant, paint your house pink, etc.
Once uploaded to the gallery, our creations stop being ours and belong to EA.

Sure, everybody would like to be recognised and credited for their own creations. However, you must remember that this isn't a popularity contest. Don't make a big deal about it. The only thing that matters is that you're happy with your creations and are able to enjoy playing with them. Besides, I bet that most of these "thieves" are just kids reuploading stuff they like to the gallery. I doubt they're doing this with ill intent.

I totally agree with you! I think the majority of the re-uploads aren't done to take credit or 'steal', a lot of people use the gallery as a back-up for their sims & lots and don't even think about it.

But there are 2 options one can be uploaded to gallery for everyone to download and the other for personal use (?).

Prink34320

It's kind of controversial, as anything uploaded to the Gallery is automatically owned by Maxis but I still think it should be an option whether or not to let others re-upload your creations, they may own the game and Gallery but the work isn't theirs, kind of like how a book may be owned by a publisher but the writer is still the one who made the content and should be praised for it.

0Chloe

Honestly, it bothers me, but when you post something? That's the consequence that comes with it.
There should be an option to stop people from re-uploading and an option to ask for permission to re-upload.

leo3487

alanmichael1 wrote: »

I think the sudden increase of "stealing" is mainly a bug. If you have downloaded a lot from the gallery, you dont get rid of the original signature even if you completely bulldoze the lot. This has happened twice to me.

yes and no
1) a patch added that
2) author can be changed if is re-uploaded at a blog, as blogs have no same fields than gallery

Inna Minnit

alanmichael1 wrote: »

I think the sudden increase of "stealing" is mainly a bug. If you have downloaded a lot from the gallery, you dont get rid of the original signature even if you completely bulldoze the lot. This has happened twice to me.

In my early days in the game, I would download houses I liked to see how they were built. There is one in my gallery still, that I did this with. I bulldozed the lot and rebuilt. It is not an exact copy. I actually did the work. But the original builder's info is there. It looks like I "stole" it, but I didn't. I learned the lesson to start a whole new build, but I didn't steal anything. It's not, as far as I know, possible to strip out the original builder's info.

JoAnne65

I'm not sure how that goes... I can imagine people download a house, adjust it and someone says: "Wow, that looks great what you did to it, can you upload it for me to the gallery?!" I'm not sure if you can see who the original creator is..? Because if not, I can imagine you won't remember. If you can then yes, it would be the decent thing to do to add that information to the upload. But I kind of can imagine people forget that in the process of playing and building and adjusting and sharing. I don't think it's always meant as stealing.

Inna Minnit

0Chloe wrote: »

Honestly, it bothers me, but when you post something? That's the consequence that comes with it.
There should be an option to stop people from re-uploading and an option to ask for permission to re-upload.

Why would there be that option? It belongs to EA once you upload it.

0Chloe

Inna Minnit wrote: »

0Chloe wrote: »

Honestly, it bothers me, but when you post something? That's the consequence that comes with it.
There should be an option to stop people from re-uploading and an option to ask for permission to re-upload.

Why would there be that option? It belongs to EA once you upload it.

Oh, it does? I didn't know that. Fair enough. Scrap the option. Lol.

leo3487

0Chloe wrote: »

Inna Minnit wrote: »

0Chloe wrote: »

Honestly, it bothers me, but when you post something? That's the consequence that comes with it.
There should be an option to stop people from re-uploading and an option to ask for permission to re-upload.

Why would there be that option? It belongs to EA once you upload it.

Oh, it does? I didn't know that. Fair enough. Scrap the option. Lol.

I also o agree with it
Better I think when you upload content, EA give it a public license

You know any case of EA or Maxis demanding a blog because upload content from gallery?

Slawfish

I don't really mind if someone reuploads my things. It normally says "original by" automatically and that's enough for me. When i upload i share them so everyone can use them however they please, even reupload, if it comes to that.

However i wouldn't reupload anyone elses lots, i guess because I'm a builder myself i see no point in it. I've had the "original by"-bug a few times, where it says someone else built a lot just because i had them placed there before bulldozing and starting over. For someone who is proud of their builds, that's mortifying xD And I've not even shared them because of it.

catloverplayer

ropodog wrote: »

Well I'm gunna just say it....I feel like creations are being stolen. If you download from me or anyone else I don't feel like you should re-upload the creation. If you modify the creation (example: change furnishing in a home, change a sim slightly) then you should always credit the original creator in the description. I know that some feel like this is not an issue, and that when you up-load something it is for others to use. Which I agree. Things in the gallery ARE for other people to use. Use in their game....not use to re-upload into the gallery so that they can get some downloads. There has also been an increase in "stolen" things receiving Maxis Faves. I think it would be a good idea to have a way to not allow re-uploading. I know that there is the original by tag, but it seems like that is not enough. It is very easy for people to get around the original tag and remove it from the creations. Some people I'm sure disagree with me, but this is how I feel about the subject of things being stolen. It has happened to me, which is why I feel pretty strongly about it. What are your guys thoughts? Is it theft? Admiration for the creation? Or just not a big deal?

Lemme know

Please don't be hateful towards one another in this thread. I'm hoping to have a very civil and adult debate here. Lets keep the Zagadoos to ourselves and just talk about it.

If I download a sim or lot and change it I ll upload it to download to another pc for safe keeping then I'll remove from the gallery.

I'm sorry I don't count this as stealing and I don't remove the original creators tag. And by the way EA needs to fix it were the tag can't be removed.