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    anyone worried magic won't be fleshed out due to it being a game pack

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    baddazonerbaddazoner Posts: 573 Member
    edited August 2019 in The Sims 4 Packs Discussion
    island life was lacking in content and was an expansion pack so i'm concerned this might have a nice looking trailer but suffering a worse fate due to being a smaller game pack

    Magic should have been the expansion over Island Life as it's something that could easily be fleshed out with a lot more content including more supernaturals etc

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      SindocatSindocat Posts: 5,622 Member
      I think it will be fleshed out because it is a game pack just of Spellcasters. People seem pleased with Vampires. This is planned on the same general format.

      I think we'll see future Occult life states as their own packs as well. At least, I hope we will. I miss my Werewolves.
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      DerellaDerella Posts: 765 Member
      Vampires was just a Game Pack, and they were really fleshed out.
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      HestiaHestia Posts: 1,997 Member
      edited August 2019
      They did a great job with vampires for The Sims 4 compared to The Sims 2 and The Sims 3. I’m not too concerned about the lifestate itself. I’m more concerned about whether we will have MagicCoins to collect and purchase unique items or lots and the things we can do in this new magic town.

      Mermaids are overall really bad compared to what we received from Island Paradise (TS3)... but they did manage to reveal that the Spellcaster lifestate will have the same skill tree / tiers type as Vampires.
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      HestiaHestia Posts: 1,997 Member
      Sindocat wrote: »
      I think it will be fleshed out because it is a game pack just of Spellcasters. People seem pleased with Vampires. This is planned on the same general format.

      I think we'll see future Occult life states as their own packs as well. At least, I hope we will. I miss my Werewolves.

      I need my Vampires VS Werewolves legacy story back in here. :(
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      LogisitcsLogisitcs Posts: 1,156 Member
      I am worried and will be worried until launch where I can play it and see for myself.
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      Zeldaboy180Zeldaboy180 Posts: 5,997 Member
      I'd be more worried if it was an expansion pack honestly, expansion packs tend to have a tendency to be half baked
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      Atreya33Atreya33 Posts: 4,460 Member
      I am a bit worried because it is the sims 4, not because it is a game pack.

      Personally I think features in GP's can be just as detailed and fleshed out as EP's. The focus of the features is more narrow with less additional content but the depth of the features can compete with EP's.
      Of the 3 lifestates we have so far, vampires from the GP are far more developed than the EP ones. Parenthood, also a GP has a big impact on gameplay as well.
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      amber_ilumireamber_ilumire Posts: 1,714 Member
      Not too worried at the moment. Game packs have almost always done better then expansion packs, especially in terms of new gameplay. From what we have so far, I'd say it looks promising, but I'm trying not to get too excited until we have more info!
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      izecsonizecson Posts: 2,875 Member
      Does any sims 4 features ever being fleshed out by being in expansion packs? So far only gamepacks deliver the quality.
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      miss_simlishmiss_simlish Posts: 460 Member
      amber_ilumire wrote: »
      Not too worried at the moment. Game packs have almost always done better then expansion packs, especially in terms of new gameplay. From what we have so far, I'd say it looks promising, but I'm trying not to get too excited until we have more info!

      I was just about to say this - game packs are always better IMO. I wonder why... maybe we have lower expectations and so are usually pleasantly surprised by game packs.

      I think like others have said, if using Vampires as the standard, magic is going to be great. I actually never played vampires (I have the pack for build/buy but never played as a vampire) but am feeling very inspired to do so now! Maybe I’m just overly excited for ROM, I’ve always been a “realistic” player, but lately I feel like I have enough of real life in real life! Bring on the magic! 😁
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      Amapola76Amapola76 Posts: 1,908 Member
      I'm going to jump on the bandwagon and say that I have also generally enjoyed the game packs more than the expansions. (With the exception of Seasons, which is vital for me.)
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      floridameerkatfloridameerkat Posts: 1,190 Member
      miss_simlish wrote: »
      amber_ilumire wrote: »
      Not too worried at the moment. Game packs have almost always done better then expansion packs, especially in terms of new gameplay. From what we have so far, I'd say it looks promising, but I'm trying not to get too excited until we have more info!

      I was just about to say this - game packs are always better IMO. I wonder why... maybe we have lower expectations and so are usually pleasantly surprised by game packs.

      I think like others have said, if using Vampires as the standard, magic is going to be great. I actually never played vampires (I have the pack for build/buy but never played as a vampire) but am feeling very inspired to do so now! Maybe I’m just overly excited for ROM, I’ve always been a “realistic” player, but lately I feel like I have enough of real life in real life! Bring on the magic! 😁

      My theory on why GPs are usually better than EPs is because the focus is so narrow and there's just less content overall, so the devs have more time to devote to creating everything and getting it perfect.
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      DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 3,358 Member
      I'm still picking up packs, but from what I've seen, the narrower the focus of the pack (be it game pack or expansion pack) the better it is at delivering whatever that focus is.

      So, while they could mess it up, I'm expecting it to be at least good (I'm hoping it will be great.)
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      LiELFLiELF Posts: 6,477 Member
      miss_simlish wrote: »
      amber_ilumire wrote: »
      Not too worried at the moment. Game packs have almost always done better then expansion packs, especially in terms of new gameplay. From what we have so far, I'd say it looks promising, but I'm trying not to get too excited until we have more info!

      I was just about to say this - game packs are always better IMO. I wonder why... maybe we have lower expectations and so are usually pleasantly surprised by game packs.

      I think like others have said, if using Vampires as the standard, magic is going to be great. I actually never played vampires (I have the pack for build/buy but never played as a vampire) but am feeling very inspired to do so now! Maybe I’m just overly excited for ROM, I’ve always been a “realistic” player, but lately I feel like I have enough of real life in real life! Bring on the magic! 😁

      Yay! Come on over to the dark and sparkly side where anything is possible. :)

      I'm really not too worried about Magic. The devs have said that the spells system is similar to Vampire powers but goes beyond it. I'm also just trying to keep an open mind about what kinds of magic and effects are feasible in the game. We obviously won't get every single spell effect we can think of, but if we get a decent selection and variety, I'll be very content. This pack has been worked on for a while and so far, it shows.

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      CK213CK213 Posts: 20,543 Member
      edited August 2019
      If they are giving it a Vampires approach, then I think it should be fine.

      I just hope that we can make unique witches through game play choices, like we could in vampires.
      I also hope that spells are usefull and fun, as well growing and finding ingredients for alchemy.

      I notice that that large cauldron has three positions for sims.
      I really hope it's like that Sims 3 University science project that required 3 sims for special results.
      It would be so cool if you can form a coven of three witches for special spells.

      I do like that Void Critters are being used for familiars.
      I've always liked them and I am glad to see them being used. It does raise some questions as to how characters from a children's game are actually magical creatures. It would be cool if there is a suspension-of-disbelief story behind that.

      Also I hope that collectables are made more interesting by this pack.
      The Crystal Helmet from Get Famous made me interested in TS4 crystals because the suddenly became useful to me.
      Until then, I wasn't all that interested in TS4 collectables like I was in past Sims games.
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      AquaGamer1212AquaGamer1212 Posts: 5,417 Member
      No because usually Game Packs are more fleshed out than the other two packs.
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      RavenSpitRavenSpit Posts: 1,387 Member
      nope, it being a GP doesn't worry me at all, vampires was a GP too and they are very well done and from everything we've learned about ROM so far it seems to also be well made.
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      GordyGordy Posts: 3,032 Member
      I was worried about it being a Game Pack. But then we got Island Living and I remembered that EPs seem to be fairly shallow and hit-or-miss. Game Packs, for the most part (*cough* Outdoor Retreat & StrangerVille *cough*) give us better gameplay for half the price.
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      liliaethliliaeth Posts: 1,087 Member
      Hestia wrote: »
      Sindocat wrote: »
      I think it will be fleshed out because it is a game pack just of Spellcasters. People seem pleased with Vampires. This is planned on the same general format.

      I think we'll see future Occult life states as their own packs as well. At least, I hope we will. I miss my Werewolves.

      I need my Vampires VS Werewolves legacy story back in here. :(

      I just want to give my Scott the bite, and build his pack. Lately pretty much always play with sims based on Teen Wolf, and I just want to make them actual werewolves, rather than having to use the vampire powers as a stand in
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      LivinityLivinity Posts: 455 Member
      Not worried at all, they did an amazing work with vampires. And if you consider that game packs are priced at half the value of an expansion, they could only make 2 new occults at a time for them to be as flashed out as vampires. Game packs are the best way to bring them, you also get a themed world instead of a more generic one. That being said, I still hope they pack some of the least favorite occults in a exp, like genies, zombies, imaginary friends, etc
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      orkhid22orkhid22 Posts: 2,226 Member
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      ashcrash19ashcrash19 Posts: 4,411 Member
      edited August 2019
      I actually think the opposite. Game packs may be less expensive and more niche, but they seem to be more content rich. Expansion packs tend to have a popular theme but can feel lackluster or "empty" at times due to the resources used for bigger animations and such.
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      WallSims4everWallSims4ever Posts: 755 Member
      Considering we're getting 24 spells, 15 potions, familiars, wands (and the ability to cast spells using the hands) brooms, cauldrons, curses and a magic realm, I think it's the most fleshed out magic has ever been in The Sims. Not worried at all. My body/pocket is readyy
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      WallSims4everWallSims4ever Posts: 755 Member
      edited August 2019
      Also, game packs are proving to be way more content rich than expansions (whats up island living). Gimme one good witch rather than 5 useless occult weirdos. Sorry im so hyped, last time I was hyped with the sims was Get Famous and it doesnt come close
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