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Babies and Toddlers Combined, a Solution to the Inanimate Babies.
Rhiannonraven
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A lot of people have been talking about how to improve babies recently. I have been thinking about it a lot, and I have come up with a solution that I actually really love: baby and toddler life stages combined. Babies could start out as a baby in a crib, but slowly they would gain skills that allow them to become like how we currently know toddlers to be. The life stage could be 1.5 weeks and could just be called baby. You could edit in CAS throughout the entire life stage. Skills would be able to reach a higher level since there is more time to work on them. Some ideas of interactions you could do with babies to help them gain skills in the very beginning could be:
Once a baby reached, say, level four in any skill, they would start behaving like toddlers currently do at level one on any given skill. The skills could go up to level eight or ten. Potty could stick with three or five levels because they cannot start to learn potty until all their other skills are a little higher. There could be funny mishaps that occur if you try to teach potty too early.
Babies could start eating solid foods in a high chair once they reach movement level three or something like that.
There should be many more interactions available between babies and children or other babies. Children could ask to hold the baby (when it is little) with help from their parents. Babies could play with each other without using toys, like just poke each other and giggle and babble and touch each other's toes and things like that (once they can sit only). Children could sing to babies or play with toys with them.
I want to write more about my idea of taking them on walks, too. As babies in strollers, they could just talk to their caregiver who is taking them out, and they could do the "watch" and "what's that?" interactions with people and interesting object outside as they roll along. They would do those autonomously. Once they can walk on their own, they could hold an older sim's hand to go on a walk/adventure and play with things they find along the way. There could be outdoor interactions such as "play in dirt" or "play in grass" that they could perform while on a walk/adventure.
A lot of people say that it is too sad to have babies taken out of the crib because they just get lost, I disagree. Interactions where babies are taken out of the crib before they can crawl/walk on their own could be mandatory for the sims to finish. When a sim is peeing themselves or having an energy failure, they can't just suddenly get up and do something else because they get distracted. These interactions with babies could work a similar way. If you click cancel on something they are currently doing with a baby sim, they would always just pick up the baby and put them back away into the crib before doing anything else.
Those are my thoughts, feel free to comment any new ideas for interactions, thought, concerns, or anything you wish!
- Play clapping and singing games with baby (increase imagination or communication skill)
- Give baby tummy time where they can learn to push up from floor, sit, crawl, then eventually walk (increases movement skill)
- Talk to baby (increase communication)
- Take baby out in stroller and then (when they can walk) out for walks/adventures with parent (increase thinking skill because they are watching the world)
- Play with baby and toys on floor (increase thinking, imagination, or communication)
- Nurse baby on couch or chair (doesn't gain skills, but nicer than standing)
- If multiple babies are in one room, even if they can't walk/crawl yet, they could babble at each other and gain a relationship and communication skills.
- Babies could have mobiles above their beds/cribs to play with (could gain imagination, movement or thinking skill)
Once a baby reached, say, level four in any skill, they would start behaving like toddlers currently do at level one on any given skill. The skills could go up to level eight or ten. Potty could stick with three or five levels because they cannot start to learn potty until all their other skills are a little higher. There could be funny mishaps that occur if you try to teach potty too early.
Babies could start eating solid foods in a high chair once they reach movement level three or something like that.
There should be many more interactions available between babies and children or other babies. Children could ask to hold the baby (when it is little) with help from their parents. Babies could play with each other without using toys, like just poke each other and giggle and babble and touch each other's toes and things like that (once they can sit only). Children could sing to babies or play with toys with them.
I want to write more about my idea of taking them on walks, too. As babies in strollers, they could just talk to their caregiver who is taking them out, and they could do the "watch" and "what's that?" interactions with people and interesting object outside as they roll along. They would do those autonomously. Once they can walk on their own, they could hold an older sim's hand to go on a walk/adventure and play with things they find along the way. There could be outdoor interactions such as "play in dirt" or "play in grass" that they could perform while on a walk/adventure.
A lot of people say that it is too sad to have babies taken out of the crib because they just get lost, I disagree. Interactions where babies are taken out of the crib before they can crawl/walk on their own could be mandatory for the sims to finish. When a sim is peeing themselves or having an energy failure, they can't just suddenly get up and do something else because they get distracted. These interactions with babies could work a similar way. If you click cancel on something they are currently doing with a baby sim, they would always just pick up the baby and put them back away into the crib before doing anything else.
Those are my thoughts, feel free to comment any new ideas for interactions, thought, concerns, or anything you wish!
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There are two separate models for the babies and toddlers, so I don't even think they could possibly be merged. Like seriously, how would that work? In the beginning they have the baby model, but then as time goes by, they become the toddler, yet the entire stage is just called baby and there's no aging up involved? Sorry, I don't understand. It sounds very awkward and confusing. It would also be extremely weird if the 3 year old looking tots in TS4 would be labeled as "baby", imo. I don't want to sound rude, but what you're suggesting just sounds technically impossible.
Second, I don't see how this would help either stage. Honestly, I think the toddlers stand decently fine on their own (They're severally lacking, in terms of content, but gameplay wise they're okay). Also, the current babies are newborns, while the toddlers look 3. It seems much more sensible, to me at least, to fill in the missing gap with an overhauled baby stage rather than mashing to two into one, which sounds awkward.
Lastly, this is just a personal thing, but I just don't want a 'baby-toddler combined' lifestage. I think they should each be their own thing. Maybe if the toddlers we had were much younger, something like this could have worked, but as it stands, I think it would be much more efficient to just get a baby overhaul in the future instead of trying to combine two different very different life stages to mesh into each other.
Thank you so much!
I do think it is probably pretty far fetched, but I would love for it to work somehow. Currently there are things that toddlers can't do until they reach a certain level in a certain skill, like going potty alone and running. This would function basically the same way. Baby cannot walk until movement level x, baby cannot ask for food until communication level x. I think it could work.
For the size issue, it would be a little awkward, but I think they could just look like two year olds the whole time. I would be fine with that, but I do appreciate that some people would find it very irritating.
Once they baby reached a certain level in their skills, they would behave as toddlers currently do, so there would be nothing missing that had previously been in the toddler stage.
Of course you are free to disagree, just thought I would explain things a bit more, sorry if that's annoying. I am definitely not trying to start an argument (:
I agree. I want two different life stages. Babies and toddlers are not the same and I don't want them to feel like the teen and adult life stages we currently have. Babies are smaller and toddlers are bigger and in the sims 4 look pre-school age. I really like the toddlers we have in the sims 4.I also wouldn't want my baby that was just born looking like a two-year-old.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion. I may not agree with yours but we can agree to disagree and no one should be made to feel like their opinion doesn't matter. Keep voicing your opinions!
I like the idea of gradual aging for all Sims tbh but as long as it can be started and stopped at any age. Like I wish I could create a baby in cas and say it was 6mo old and another was 1.5 lol
I agree that babies and toddlers, children need more interactions
Stage 1 (0-6 months) would end with independent sitting and crawling, and stage 2 (6-12 months) would feature first words and steps.
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