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Dogs Shortchanged?

Have any other players noticed or felt like the game is heavy on cat content but very light on dog content? Maybe EA employs mostly cat people, but the difference seems crazy! I know it's early, so maybe I'll discover more as we go along, but several things seem glaring. There are specific cat toys (like the dangler), four litter boxes, four cat condos, etc. (Not to mention we have a cat island, a cat pub, a cat lady, etc., etc., but other pet areas are dog and cat areas).

BUT there are no specific dog toys (as it seems the balls are cat or dog) like bones or other chew toys. There are also no dog-only beds (it seems, because the two pet beds seem to work for cat or dog), and the big one NO DOG HOUSES!!!

I mean, I know they probably put a lot of their effort into the dog obstacle course, but those items seem so limited. I mean, unless you're raising show dogs, who spends all their dog time training them on obstacle courses? How hard would it have been to have a few more dog specific items to play with. (And from what I saw in another post, puppy options got shortchanged too, while cats got a LOT.

(And this is coming from someone who's not a current pet owner, but when I have owned pets they've been CATS. I've never owned a dog, so perhaps I looked on this as my chance and there's just not as much to do with dogs in this game).

I could go on, (and probably will as I keep playing, but it seems like dogs lost out in this pack.

Luckily it's easily fixable! There's enough great about this expansion pack to keep me enjoying it for now, but I do hope that our next patch includes a few dog-only toys (especially chew toys--ones you can play tug-of-war with as that's a BIG dog behavior I want to play), better puppy interactions (if that's indeed needed, I've only read about this being an issue, haven't discovered it for myself yet) and of course outdoor Dog Houses!!!!!

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    MidnightAuraMidnightAura Posts: 5,809 Member
    I like the fact that cats have some love this time around. I have to say so many of their animations are spot on to what my real life cats are like.

    I do see what you mean though, there definitely should be more dog/pet beds in general. I'm not a fan of the two flat ones. I could have sworn I saw a dog chew for sale in one of the food stalls but I may have got that wrong.
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    LoanetLoanet Posts: 4,079 Member
    This is pretty ironic; last time people complained that Cats and Horses didn't get enough love compared to Dogs.

    I'm certainly not saying you're wrong. It's tough to get the balance right.

    New animations - especially interactive animations - are one of the toughest new thing the Devs need to add, so I wouldn't hope for a tug-toy too soon.
    Prepping a list of mods to add after Infants are placed into the game. Because real life isn't 'nice'.
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    camille mcalooncamille mcaloon Posts: 58 Member
    [quote="cbartsch69;d-929069"]Have any other players noticed or felt like the game is heavy on cat content but very light on dog content? Maybe EA employs mostly cat people, but the difference seems crazy! I know it's early, so maybe I'll discover more as we go along, but several things seem glaring. There are specific cat toys (like the dangler), four litter boxes, four cat condos, etc. (Not to mention we have a cat island, a cat pub, a cat lady, etc., etc., but other pet areas are dog and cat areas).

    BUT there are no specific dog toys (as it seems the balls are cat or dog) like bones or other chew toys. There are also no dog-only beds (it seems, because the two pet beds seem to work for cat or dog), and the big one NO DOG HOUSES!!!

    I mean, I know they probably put a lot of their effort into the dog obstacle course, but those items seem so limited. I mean, unless you're raising show dogs, who spends all their dog time training them on obstacle courses? How hard would it have been to have a few more dog specific items to play with. (And from what I saw in another post, puppy options got shortchanged too, while cats got a LOT.

    (And this is coming from someone who's not a current pet owner, but when I have owned pets they've been CATS. I've never owned a dog, so perhaps I looked on this as my chance and there's just not as much to do with dogs in this game).

    I could go on, (and probably will as I keep playing, but it seems like dogs lost out in this pack.

    Luckily it's easily fixable! There's enough great about this expansion pack to keep me enjoying it for now, but I do hope that our next patch includes a few dog-only toys (especially chew toys--ones you can play tug-of-war with as that's a BIG dog behavior I want to play), better puppy interactions (if that's indeed needed, I've only read about this being an issue, haven't discovered it for myself yet) and of course outdoor Dog Houses!!!!![/quote]

    And more vareity pet beds. And more breeds like the kelpie.bule and red heeler.
    Most if tge dogs I have owened were kelpies.
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    06Bon0606Bon06 Posts: 11,614 Member
    I said it in another thread and I'll say it here. A pet stuff pack wouldn't surprise me tbh XD

    I do agree with the are more cat objects but I haven't played the pets yet to know what the difference is but they seem to each have their own thing.
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    mintycupcakemintycupcake Posts: 13,212 Member
    Soooo are you saying you want litter boxes and scratching posts for the dogs? :D

    And what's the point to "dog-only" beds? Trust me, cats do not give two toots whether Petco was selling a bed as a "dog bed", they will sleep on it regardless.
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    MidnightAuraMidnightAura Posts: 5,809 Member
    Soooo are you saying you want litter boxes and scratching posts for the dogs? :D

    And what's the point to "dog-only" beds? Trust me, cats do not give two toots whether Petco was selling a bed as a "dog bed", they will sleep on it regardless.

    Yup my cat sleeps in one of our dogs beds and woe betide the dogs if they attempt to make her move! Lol

    They also sleep in her bed. Or try too.
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    mintycupcakemintycupcake Posts: 13,212 Member
    Soooo are you saying you want litter boxes and scratching posts for the dogs? :D

    And what's the point to "dog-only" beds? Trust me, cats do not give two toots whether Petco was selling a bed as a "dog bed", they will sleep on it regardless.

    Yup my cat sleeps in one of our dogs beds and woe betide the dogs if they attempt to make her move! Lol

    They also sleep in her bed. Or try too.

    One of my boys gets extremely dramatic when it gets hot during the summer. This past summer, I got him a "pupsicle" (self-chilling) bed and a raised vented bed. Both were intended for dogs, but my cat loved them and we had a much less dramatic summer as a result.
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    SkyeChimesSkyeChimes Posts: 376 Member
    I think it's pretty balanced actually.
    Yeah cats have more physical "stuff", like litter boxes and cat trees, BUT the dogs have more interactions, like taking them on jogs/walks, bathing the dog, dogs can swim, etc.
    Which seems real, I mean cats tend to NEED boxes, whereas dogs tend to go outside, more dogs like swimming than cats, cats prefer to groom themselves over baths wheats dogs think bath time is playtime.
    My cat in real life just claims things as his, does not matter if it's not a "cat" toy or bed, he likes it, he takes it, haha, so I don't really see how any of the toys/beds in game could have realistically been made dog only, and I take the point about a chew bone being something dog exclusive, but there ARE chew toys in game (they look like balls), they just aren't dog exclusive as the cats can bat them around (because they look like balls).
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    SimsLovinLycanSimsLovinLycan Posts: 1,910 Member
    edited November 2017
    That's strange to hear, seeing as how in the real world, cats get shortchanged and dogs get way more love (Seriously, they've cured heart worm in dogs but not cats? Pro-canine bias, much? Plus, all of the gajillion products and services out there made to cater to dogs and their people, but the comparatively small selection for cats.). To quote a famous 90's movie with human voices dubbed over live action footage of animals, "Cats rule and dogs drool!" XD (In all seriousness, I like dogs too, though.)
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    Allison18Allison18 Posts: 399 Member
    I agree I think it's a little weird to have 4 different litter boxes but no dog house or variety in pet beds? I'm still learning things about the new EP but I'm a little surprised at some of the choices that were made.
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    Sk8rblazeSk8rblaze Posts: 7,570 Member
    edited November 2017
    Yeah, I think there should have been far more content for dogs in the pack. More chew toys, more dog beds, etc.

    It makes me ponder how Sims 3: Pets' developers managed to have the time to add SO much more items for our dogs when the scope of the pack was not only literally cats and dogs.

    You can definitely notice they are under some big constraint when making expansions for TS4, whether that is time, budget, or both.
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    LoanetLoanet Posts: 4,079 Member
    Like I said, last time cats and horses were shortchanged. This time it's dogs. The lack of puppy interactions is kind of telling. But we DO have more breeds all around.

    Probably means we have cat people on the EP team.

    I assumed dog houses were a given. I totally believe they should be added. But keep in mind the work needed, which is very similar to a littler box.

    1: The coding that will result in a cat or dog being trained or preferring to sleep in their dog house.
    2: The training done by a SIm if training is required.
    3: The animation that will lead to them entering and sleeping in it.
    4: The things they can do while in it.
    5: Any effect it has on the pets stats.
    6: If it's a woo-hoo place, then it involves more coding for pets interacting with each other too.
    7: Can cats use it? You know why people will ask why not.

    And finally the object's appearance, which is the easy part. Even so, people will need more than one of these, at least three, low cost, medium cost and high-cost, for big dogs AND small dogs.
    Prepping a list of mods to add after Infants are placed into the game. Because real life isn't 'nice'.
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    crazycat_135crazycat_135 Posts: 1,349 Member
    edited November 2017
    For me, it felt about equal, but that's just me.
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    cbartsch69cbartsch69 Posts: 169 Member
    The more I've played with my dog owner, the more I'm finding to do, so it is feeling a bit more even that it first seemed.

    But I still say we could use a few more objects for dogs (and cats, too, no reason the objects can't work for both), like the dog (and cat) houses, bed varieties and of course the chew/tug toy for dogs. It's the objects where dogs feel the most short-changed (outfits, too... Lots for cats and little dogs but hardly any for big dogs?).
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