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    I think this is the end of the sim series

    Horrorgirl6Horrorgirl6 Posts: 3,192 Member
    edited April 2018 in The Sims 4 Game Feedback
    This probably will be the end f the series. Not as in they won't make more sims 4 packs, but as in Sims 4 is the final game.
    The news about the layoffs are troubling, but budget cuts?They fired even sims Veterens Then there is this little thread. https://www.reddit.com/user/fashionPolice2001 You can take as you will but its obvious this will probably be the last Sims game in the series.

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      MidnightAuraMidnightAura Posts: 5,809 Member
      I agree. The game is on life support. I expect the plug will be pulled.
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      More_MooreMore_Moore Posts: 408 Member
      Doubtful that it is the end. It's still widely successful as a franchise. They're not so dumb as to drop off one of the best sellers, even if that means the title will become more mobile-based/casual or something, it'll still be there. Bet.
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      HermitgirlHermitgirl Posts: 8,825 Member
      No it's not obvious at all. If this was an insider.. big, big if. He/she is disgruntled and there is no telling why they were let go. They are also making a career mistake posting this in case they are found out... so that alone would make them dubious in my book. I think the Sims 4 is meant to last awhile.. which they have been telling us from early on. That doesn't mean there will be no 5 or reboot. They might just take a breather between them, if tech advances there might be a much better game in the next installment when it happens.
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      HazelTeeHazelTee Posts: 15 Member
      I don't have a huge problem with the Sims 4 being their last game. I would have a problem if EA stopped developing it. It still has so much more that can be done with it. Sims 4 runs much better than the other Sims PC games, even with the bug and glitches. I think like most big companies, EA may have gotten too far ahead of themselves. You cannot make everyone happy, but listening to the community as a guide is a way to start. I just feel like they lost the vision somewhere. When it was just a Maxis studio, there was nothing I didn't love. I understand companies get acquired but forgetting that initial vision and direction is a mistake of sorts. EA can come back from this. There are some of us loyal followers who started playing as pre-teens and are now parents and adults ourselves.

      If someone is laid off from a job, there are multiple reason why this could have happened. Now leaving the PC version in the background and letting Sims mobile takeover. I don't know. I am 30 something years old and don't enjoy playing games on my phone. That makes my head and eyes hurt. I will do it every now and then, but it will never be my main way of playing any game.

      Hopefully, EA doing this bit of housecleaning will lead the Sims franchise out of this rut. Some of the gurus didn't always seem so professional when it came to interacting with the community. No matter how someone talks to you doesn't not mean you respond in that same manner. I would have never done that at my job. Simmers are very passionate and just want to feel like they are being heard. "Feel like", which does not mean every single little idea from a consumer doesn't need to be translated over to the game. It means using the information shared my simmers to shape the direction of the future the Sims 4.
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      Horrorgirl6Horrorgirl6 Posts: 3,192 Member
      More_Moore wrote: »
      Doubtful that it is the end. It's still widely successful as a franchise. They're not so dumb as to drop off one of the best sellers, even if that means the title will become more mobile-based/casual or something, it'll still be there. Bet.

      You be surprised
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      Horrorgirl6Horrorgirl6 Posts: 3,192 Member
      edited April 2018
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      No it's not obvious at all. If this was an insider.. big, big if. He/she is disgruntled and there is no telling why they were let go. They are also making a career mistake posting this in case they are found out... so that alone would make them dubious in my book. I think the Sims 4 is meant to last awhile.. which they have been telling us from early on. That doesn't mean there will be no 5 or reboot. They might just take a breather between them, if tech advances there might be a much better game in the next installment when it happens.

      They are already fired though.They have nothing to loose.This person publish a comment on development months ago.So there probably legit.If yhey havnt been starting to make sims 5 yet .They are probably are not going to do it
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      HermitgirlHermitgirl Posts: 8,825 Member
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      No it's not obvious at all. If this was an insider.. big, big if. He/she is disgruntled and there is no telling why they were let go. They are also making a career mistake posting this in case they are found out... so that alone would make them dubious in my book. I think the Sims 4 is meant to last awhile.. which they have been telling us from early on. That doesn't mean there will be no 5 or reboot. They might just take a breather between them, if tech advances there might be a much better game in the next installment when it happens.

      They are already fired though.They have nothing to loose.This person publish a comment on development months ago.So there probably legit.If yhey havnt been starting to make sims 5 yet .They are probably are not going to do it

      And they never want another job in the industry? That is poor judgement if true. If also true .. so they haven't begun a Sims 5 .. so what? How does that mean the Sims will never make another game?
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      Horrorgirl6Horrorgirl6 Posts: 3,192 Member
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      No it's not obvious at all. If this was an insider.. big, big if. He/she is disgruntled and there is no telling why they were let go. They are also making a career mistake posting this in case they are found out... so that alone would make them dubious in my book. I think the Sims 4 is meant to last awhile.. which they have been telling us from early on. That doesn't mean there will be no 5 or reboot. They might just take a breather between them, if tech advances there might be a much better game in the next installment when it happens.

      They are already fired though.They have nothing to loose.This person publish a comment on development months ago.So there probably legit.If yhey havnt been starting to make sims 5 yet .They are probably are not going to do it

      And they never want another job in the industry? That is poor judgement if true. If also true .. so they haven't begun a Sims 5 .. so what? How does that mean the Sims will never make another game?

      They usually start on the new games after the recent base game ia finish. They start on sims 3 after aims two It takes aleast four years to make a game .The sims 4 is almost four years old.If they are doing sims 5 they would aleast started on something. There nothing poor about this person decision.They are already fired.Saying comments about a former company won t hurt them.Most of the comments are not even flammatory just stuff that has been going on ?
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      HermitgirlHermitgirl Posts: 8,825 Member
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      No it's not obvious at all. If this was an insider.. big, big if. He/she is disgruntled and there is no telling why they were let go. They are also making a career mistake posting this in case they are found out... so that alone would make them dubious in my book. I think the Sims 4 is meant to last awhile.. which they have been telling us from early on. That doesn't mean there will be no 5 or reboot. They might just take a breather between them, if tech advances there might be a much better game in the next installment when it happens.

      They are already fired though.They have nothing to loose.This person publish a comment on development months ago.So there probably legit.If yhey havnt been starting to make sims 5 yet .They are probably are not going to do it

      And they never want another job in the industry? That is poor judgement if true. If also true .. so they haven't begun a Sims 5 .. so what? How does that mean the Sims will never make another game?

      They usually start on the new games after the recent base game ia finish. They start on sims 3 after aims two It takes aleast four years to make a game .The sims 4 is almost four years old.If they are doing sims 5 they would aleast started on something. There nothing poor about this person decision.They are already fired.Saying comments about a former company won t hurt them.Most of the comments are not even flammatory just stuff that has been going on ?

      Yes it would be a poor decision. If you want to work in the same industry someone hiring you after you easily throw your prior company under the bus has to think.. will they do the same to us? They might be under the cloak of anonymity here but it is possible to find this stuff out. So yes taking a chance with your livelyhood over not liking the product is not a smart move. And yes I know it takes awhile to develop a new game. We have no idea how long this one will run. Maybe for once they plan on completing it before moving on. That wouldn't be a bad move just not one we have seen before.
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      Horrorgirl6Horrorgirl6 Posts: 3,192 Member
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      No it's not obvious at all. If this was an insider.. big, big if. He/she is disgruntled and there is no telling why they were let go. They are also making a career mistake posting this in case they are found out... so that alone would make them dubious in my book. I think the Sims 4 is meant to last awhile.. which they have been telling us from early on. That doesn't mean there will be no 5 or reboot. They might just take a breather between them, if tech advances there might be a much better game in the next installment when it happens.

      They are already fired though.They have nothing to loose.This person publish a comment on development months ago.So there probably legit.If yhey havnt been starting to make sims 5 yet .They are probably are not going to do it

      And they never want another job in the industry? That is poor judgement if true. If also true .. so they haven't begun a Sims 5 .. so what? How does that mean the Sims will never make another game?

      They usually start on the new games after the recent base game ia finish. They start on sims 3 after aims two It takes aleast four years to make a game .The sims 4 is almost four years old.If they are doing sims 5 they would aleast started on something. There nothing poor about this person decision.They are already fired.Saying comments about a former company won t hurt them.Most of the comments are not even flammatory just stuff that has been going on ?

      Yes it would be a poor decision. If you want to work in the same industry someone hiring you after you easily throw your prior company under the bus has to think.. will they do the same to us? They might be under the cloak of anonymity here but it is possible to find this stuff out. So yes taking a chance with your livelyhood over not liking the product is not a smart move. And yes I know it takes awhile to develop a new game. We have no idea how long this one will run. Maybe for once they plan on completing it before moving on. That wouldn't be a bad move just not one we have seen before.

      Ea of all companisae ? EA has a terrible reputation .Its not like they are stellar anyway.Besides the person didnt say it was terrible to work there.The closer thing was they are probably going to sell mefocore pack as lpng as they can.The rest is they fired lo gtimr staffers.Now yes, but why would they lay off so many people? If they plan to make a sims 5.
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      HermitgirlHermitgirl Posts: 8,825 Member
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      No it's not obvious at all. If this was an insider.. big, big if. He/she is disgruntled and there is no telling why they were let go. They are also making a career mistake posting this in case they are found out... so that alone would make them dubious in my book. I think the Sims 4 is meant to last awhile.. which they have been telling us from early on. That doesn't mean there will be no 5 or reboot. They might just take a breather between them, if tech advances there might be a much better game in the next installment when it happens.

      They are already fired though.They have nothing to loose.This person publish a comment on development months ago.So there probably legit.If yhey havnt been starting to make sims 5 yet .They are probably are not going to do it

      And they never want another job in the industry? That is poor judgement if true. If also true .. so they haven't begun a Sims 5 .. so what? How does that mean the Sims will never make another game?

      They usually start on the new games after the recent base game ia finish. They start on sims 3 after aims two It takes aleast four years to make a game .The sims 4 is almost four years old.If they are doing sims 5 they would aleast started on something. There nothing poor about this person decision.They are already fired.Saying comments about a former company won t hurt them.Most of the comments are not even flammatory just stuff that has been going on ?

      Yes it would be a poor decision. If you want to work in the same industry someone hiring you after you easily throw your prior company under the bus has to think.. will they do the same to us? They might be under the cloak of anonymity here but it is possible to find this stuff out. So yes taking a chance with your livelyhood over not liking the product is not a smart move. And yes I know it takes awhile to develop a new game. We have no idea how long this one will run. Maybe for once they plan on completing it before moving on. That wouldn't be a bad move just not one we have seen before.

      Ea of all companisae ? EA has a terrible reputation .Its not like they are stellar anyway.Besides the person didnt say it was terrible to work there.The closer thing was they are probably going to sell mefocore pack as lpng as they can.The rest is they fired lo gtimr staffers.Now yes, but why would they lay off so many people? If they plan to make a sims 5.

      How many people? Are layoffs verified officially? Do we have numbers? Names? Reasons? Look, all of this is even has come from unidentified sources. Whose to say who has been fired.. shuffled.. restructured ect? We don't know. I agree with one thing something probably happened.. is it good? is it bad? is it life?
      We have one tweet.. one that came from the horses mouth and it didn't say much at all.. certainly didn't indicate any of this from the other "sources".
      I'm not saying they are making a new game now.. I'm not saying it will be started soon. How would I know that? I'm just saying Sims is profitable and I can't see how it would be done forever because of this. You are of course free to assume another will never be made. It's cool.


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      GabbyGirlJGabbyGirlJ Posts: 6,858 Member
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      No it's not obvious at all. If this was an insider.. big, big if. He/she is disgruntled and there is no telling why they were let go. They are also making a career mistake posting this in case they are found out... so that alone would make them dubious in my book. I think the Sims 4 is meant to last awhile.. which they have been telling us from early on. That doesn't mean there will be no 5 or reboot. They might just take a breather between them, if tech advances there might be a much better game in the next installment when it happens.

      They are already fired though.They have nothing to loose.This person publish a comment on development months ago.So there probably legit.If yhey havnt been starting to make sims 5 yet .They are probably are not going to do it

      And they never want another job in the industry? That is poor judgement if true. If also true .. so they haven't begun a Sims 5 .. so what? How does that mean the Sims will never make another game?

      They usually start on the new games after the recent base game ia finish. They start on sims 3 after aims two It takes aleast four years to make a game .The sims 4 is almost four years old.If they are doing sims 5 they would aleast started on something. There nothing poor about this person decision.They are already fired.Saying comments about a former company won t hurt them.Most of the comments are not even flammatory just stuff that has been going on ?

      Yes it would be a poor decision. If you want to work in the same industry someone hiring you after you easily throw your prior company under the bus has to think.. will they do the same to us? They might be under the cloak of anonymity here but it is possible to find this stuff out. So yes taking a chance with your livelyhood over not liking the product is not a smart move. And yes I know it takes awhile to develop a new game. We have no idea how long this one will run. Maybe for once they plan on completing it before moving on. That wouldn't be a bad move just not one we have seen before.

      Eh, it's an anonymous post on Reddit. Perhaps the person already has another job anyway. Why would another company do the amount of digging needed to figure out who said something on Reddit? Especially if they didn't know that there was something to look for in the first place.

      I don't know if 4 is the end of the series. I do know that if it's true that they haven't started working on TS5 I'd find that concerning. Sims games take years to make. Maybe 4 is the end of the series as we know it and the focus will shift away from PC. Who knows? If they do have a plan laid out, we won't know for a while.
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      suzanna13suzanna13 Posts: 1,426 Member
      EA trying to force a mobile game onto us is not a good sign of things to come. Add to that no teaser for this quarter and this news, I am concerned about the future of the Sims.
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      HermitgirlHermitgirl Posts: 8,825 Member
      @GabbyGirlJ I didn't say they would. I'm just saying that being anon online can backfire. This just indicates to me poor judgement if they are a professional. I doubt they are who they say they are, If they are.. then they have poor judgement or are possibly not employable for some reason.
      If they have some massive axe to grind .. that's a pretty sad way to get it out there.
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      Horrorgirl6Horrorgirl6 Posts: 3,192 Member
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      @GabbyGirlJ I didn't say they would. I'm just saying that being anon online can backfire. This just indicates to me poor judgement if they are a professional. I doubt they are who they say they are, If they are.. then they have poor judgement or are possibly not employable for some reason.
      If they have some massive axe to grind .. that's a pretty sad way to get it out there.

      Still its a fake name on a redfit post? Its not like its on the person twityer or favebook
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      HermitgirlHermitgirl Posts: 8,825 Member
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      Hermitgirl wrote: »
      @GabbyGirlJ I didn't say they would. I'm just saying that being anon online can backfire. This just indicates to me poor judgement if they are a professional. I doubt they are who they say they are, If they are.. then they have poor judgement or are possibly not employable for some reason.
      If they have some massive axe to grind .. that's a pretty sad way to get it out there.

      Still its a fake name on a redfit post? Its not like its on the person twityer or favebook

      yes.. fake name.. on reddit... exactly..
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      JoAnne65JoAnne65 Posts: 22,959 Member
      edited April 2018
      TronesiaT wrote: »
      I don't have a huge problem with the Sims 4 being their last game. I would have a problem if EA stopped developing it. It still has so much more that can be done with it. Sims 4 runs much better than the other Sims PC games, even with the bug and glitches. I think like most big companies, EA may have gotten too far ahead of themselves. You cannot make everyone happy, but listening to the community as a guide is a way to start. I just feel like they lost the vision somewhere. When it was just a Maxis studio, there was nothing I didn't love. I understand companies get acquired but forgetting that initial vision and direction is a mistake of sorts. EA can come back from this. There are some of us loyal followers who started playing as pre-teens and are now parents and adults ourselves.

      If someone is laid off from a job, there are multiple reason why this could have happened. Now leaving the PC version in the background and letting Sims mobile takeover. I don't know. I am 30 something years old and don't enjoy playing games on my phone. That makes my head and eyes hurt. I will do it every now and then, but it will never be my main way of playing any game.

      Hopefully, EA doing this bit of housecleaning will lead the Sims franchise out of this rut. Some of the gurus didn't always seem so professional when it came to interacting with the community. No matter how someone talks to you doesn't not mean you respond in that same manner. I would have never done that at my job. Simmers are very passionate and just want to feel like they are being heard. "Feel like", which does not mean every single little idea from a consumer doesn't need to be translated over to the game. It means using the information shared my simmers to shape the direction of the future the Sims 4.
      Bit of housecleaning? Are you actually referring to dismissing a dev that has been working on the franchise for 20 years when you say a bit of housecleaning, necessary ‘to lead them out of this rut’, or am I totally misinterpreting? I’d say it rather maneuvers them into a rut.
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      TheHarbinger_51TheHarbinger_51 Posts: 1,702 Member
      edited April 2018
      Not saying this is even right or anything. But. Why should they go on making new sims games forever? What do some people expect Sims 5/6/7/8? I for one , think it would be just fine if Sims 4 happened to be the final game. So long as its completed by the end of development.
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      JoAnne65JoAnne65 Posts: 22,959 Member
      edited April 2018
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      This probably will be the end f the series. Not as in they won't make more sims 4 packs, but as in Sims 4 is the final game.
      The news about the layoffs are troubling, but budget cuts?They fired even sims Veterens Then there is this little thread. https://www.reddit.com/user/fashionPolice2001 You can take as you will but its obvious this will probably be the last Sims game in the series.
      Is something wrong with the link now or with my Reddit account? I see nothing... :(
      flowerkitten67 wrote: »
      Not saying this is even right or anything. But. Why should they go on making new sims games forever? What do some people expect Sims 5/6/7/8? I for one , think it would be just fine if Sims 4 happened to be the final game. So long as its completed by the end of development.
      Yes, that’s clearly what ‘some people’ are hoping. And some people don’t care whether they make Sims 4 complete or not. If it isn’t after 4 years, I’d say there’s something terribly wrong anyway.
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      GabbyGirlJGabbyGirlJ Posts: 6,858 Member
      edited April 2018
      JoAnne65 wrote: »
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      This probably will be the end f the series. Not as in they won't make more sims 4 packs, but as in Sims 4 is the final game.
      The news about the layoffs are troubling, but budget cuts?They fired even sims Veterens Then there is this little thread. https://www.reddit.com/user/fashionPolice2001 You can take as you will but its obvious this will probably be the last Sims game in the series.
      Is something wrong with the link now or with my Reddit account? I see nothing... :(

      Click the link, then click Comments, should be there.

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      ErpeErpe Posts: 5,872 Member
      meerkattime wrote: »
      The most worrying thing is that no one from the PC team has come out to tell us that the rumors are fake.
      They can’t. EA doesn’t allow ordinary devs to talk about future games at all before they are announced. Therefore they can neither confirm nor deny any rumors. Only chosen top managers are allowed to comment on such things and they haven’t been asked. EA’s top also have many other games to care about. So they aren’t busy about such fake comments from somebody who claims to be a former dev but can’t be identified anyway.

      IMO those comments are clearly false because they are made in a way that only a simmer but not a developer would comment. If they were from a former developer then they would have been more about how they worked in the studio.
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      JoAnne65JoAnne65 Posts: 22,959 Member
      GabbyGirlJ wrote: »
      JoAnne65 wrote: »
      Horrorgirl6 wrote: »
      This probably will be the end f the series. Not as in they won't make more sims 4 packs, but as in Sims 4 is the final game.
      The news about the layoffs are troubling, but budget cuts?They fired even sims Veterens Then there is this little thread. https://www.reddit.com/user/fashionPolice2001 You can take as you will but its obvious this will probably be the last Sims game in the series.
      Is something wrong with the link now or with my Reddit account? I see nothing... :(

      Click the link, then click Comments, should be there.
      Oh, thanks :mrgreen: Yep, that worked. I notice most posts are recent, except for a post 283 days ago, where they presented a fun fact about GTW. Which for me supports the feeling it might be real. Mind you, not saying it’s actual proof, just something I notice.
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