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All CC suddenly got broken

KoteykaKoteyka Posts: 537 Member
edited July 2018 in Mods Bugs & Issues
Hello. This is the story of my battle against broken CC.

So a couple of days ago I've got a very annoying problem where when i put any CC hair on my sim, his icon starts loading forever. Like this:
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Even if i afterwards chose any maxis hair, the icons still wouldn't load. Then when i tried going in game mode the sims portrait wouldn't show up.
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I tried deleting all of my hair and that solved the problem, so i tried putting them in one by one and deleting all of the hair that causes the bug. The thing is that when i tried loading the game with all of the hair that was still working, the problem still occurred. I have no idea whats going on and it seems like i'll have to play from now on without any CC hair which is a huge bummer. I've repaired my game multiple times, reseted the Sims 4 folder... nothing seemed to work.

Today, when i just now tried to load my household, it wouldn't. Yesterday it did, today it doesn't. The loading screen loads forever, even after that jingle you get when you arrive on a lot. Starting a new game didn't help - i simply couldn't save my sim because of the forever loading icon.

Now its even not the hair anymore. I ran the game without the hair and the problem still occurred. So this basically means that i can't play the game with cc anymore? I'm annoyed. Im frustrated. I don't know if i'll ever be able to play with CC again. I tried fixing my game through S4Studio, that didn't help. My game worked just fine only last week. Now its a nightmare.

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  • catitude5catitude5 Posts: 2,537 Member
    I disabled the patches for reasons like this. I'm so so sick of things like this happening. To be honest I don't know if I'll ever put it back in.
  • KoteykaKoteyka Posts: 537 Member
    @catitude5 to be fair i don't think it was the patch that broke my CC. The patch came out only yesterday but the problem occurred about 2-3 days ago! :(
  • Evie0602Evie0602 Posts: 634 Member
    edited July 2018
    Have you tried deleting the localthumbcache? It's safe to delete and will regenerate the next time you play your game.
    Also have you tried starting a new save game to see if your cc works in a new game?
  • KoteykaKoteyka Posts: 537 Member
    @Evie0602 yes, i've already tried both of that and it still didn't work. :'( I wonder if reinstalling the whole game might, but I'm not sure if thats safe to do.
  • 3KNPen3KNPen Posts: 2,825 Member
    edited July 2018
    @Evie0602

    It could still be a piece of bad CC that somehow got broken during a patch and took a bit to corrupt your game.

    I would pull all your CC out of the game (saving it on your desktop) then delete the cache file and then run a full game repair in Origin. Then check your game to see if it's working properly (try it with a new save first) and then slowly add things back in until you can figure out what piece of CC is causing you trouble. Once you figure it out pull all your CC again and run another repair game before adding your good CC back in since sometimes bad CC can linger.

    Alternatively I believe you can use Sims4Studio to also weed out the bad CC if you have it but I've never used it so I don't know how it works exactly.
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  • KoteykaKoteyka Posts: 537 Member
    @3KNPen the thing is, i've actually done that. Repaired the game - slowly starting placing CC in - detected all of the bad CC and removed it - repaired again - tried to run the game. First it kinda worked, second time the CC that worked before for some reason broke. I don't know what to do anymore. I think i've tried every possible way out there...
    S4Studio says all of my CC is completely fine.
  • ParkPark Posts: 625 Member
    edited July 2018
    For what it's worth, if this all started 2-3 days ago, before the July 10th patch it may serve to think back those two to three days and remember if you did anything to the game or the machine. That this just abruptly happened "out of the blue" something is clearly different. Did you install any other software in that time frame? Checked for malicious software? At this point, since you have tried all the fixes and resets and the CC people assure you their material is fine, then another factor is in play here. Are you the only one who uses the particular device on which you play your game?

    Not to make light of your situation which is no doubt frustrating, what you have here is somewhat of a mystery and, well, in the spirit of the venerable Sherlock Holmes, you need to look at the "impossible". Rule that out and what's left, "however improbable, must be true."

    EDIT: I must confess I merely skimmed this thread so perhaps I missed it, but before anything else, did you try to restore/run a save made before all this started happening? Kind of like the Windows troubleshooting option of "Last Known Good" run of the programme. If everything runs properly you may have a buggered-up save. But that is a mere wild guess.

    @catitude5 I think I read you correctly about "disable patches" If that's the case, "bravo!" I do that as well. I refuse to let the patches run (by launching "offline" until I know the major mods that I depend on to render the game playable for me such as MC Command Centre-- are properly repaired. )

    And now that patches seem to be popping up more frequently than once per month, even,-- I wait all the longer. We, myself and my roomie who play separate games on the same machine, did not allow the "Pets" prep patch nor anything thereafter run until late May. By then all the mods and such were fully updated beyond "hotfixes".

  • KoteykaKoteyka Posts: 537 Member
    @Park, i haven't installed any software and I'm the only one who uses this computer. Yes, i've tried to restore a save made before the CC glitching and it didn't work either. And i've also tried a new game to make sure that it isn't just one save bugged.

    The only thing i think might've caused it the mod i downloaded called "Outfit Tools - Copy Any Outfit v2b" by scumbumbo. It had custom cheats and i used one of them called "reset.bathing" which helped with the issue that sometimes while showering sims would wear clothes. I thought that might've for some reason break my game, but i deleted the mod and yet the game is still broken.
    Also after that i ran through the S4Studio fixes i never used before like "Disallow CC for shower", "Disallow CC for Aliens", "Disallow CC for townies" and "Disallow CC for vampire". Maybe that has something to do with the issue, i don't know.
    But i really really doubt that those things could break the game. Because if the mod causes issues (especially a scumbumbos mod) people usually point that out pretty quickly. And CC fixes... i mean, they're supposed to fix the game, not ruin it!
  • catitude5catitude5 Posts: 2,537 Member
    Park wrote: »
    For what it's worth, if this all started 2-3 days ago, before the July 10th patch it may serve to think back those two to three days and remember if you did anything to the game or the machine. That this just abruptly happened "out of the blue" something is clearly different. Did you install any other software in that time frame? Checked for malicious software? At this point, since you have tried all the fixes and resets and the CC people assure you their material is fine, then another factor is in play here. Are you the only one who uses the particular device on which you play your game?

    Not to make light of your situation which is no doubt frustrating, what you have here is somewhat of a mystery and, well, in the spirit of the venerable Sherlock Holmes, you need to look at the "impossible". Rule that out and what's left, "however improbable, must be true."

    EDIT: I must confess I merely skimmed this thread so perhaps I missed it, but before anything else, did you try to restore/run a save made before all this started happening? Kind of like the Windows troubleshooting option of "Last Known Good" run of the programme. If everything runs properly you may have a buggered-up save. But that is a mere wild guess.

    @catitude5 I think I read you correctly about "disable patches" If that's the case, "bravo!" I do that as well. I refuse to let the patches run (by launching "offline" until I know the major mods that I depend on to render the game playable for me such as MC Command Centre-- are properly repaired. )

    And now that patches seem to be popping up more frequently than once per month, even,-- I wait all the longer. We, myself and my roomie who play separate games on the same machine, did not allow the "Pets" prep patch nor anything thereafter run until late May. By then all the mods and such were fully updated beyond "hotfixes".


    I just can't take it anymore. I'll wait until the next EP, maybe. I no sooner get one problem solved, they create another, and all my work is for nothing.
  • Evie0602Evie0602 Posts: 634 Member
    edited July 2018
    Nvm..
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  • catitude5catitude5 Posts: 2,537 Member
    Koteyka wrote: »
    @Park, i haven't installed any software and I'm the only one who uses this computer. Yes, i've tried to restore a save made before the CC glitching and it didn't work either. And i've also tried a new game to make sure that it isn't just one save bugged.

    The only thing i think might've caused it the mod i downloaded called "Outfit Tools - Copy Any Outfit v2b" by scumbumbo. It had custom cheats and i used one of them called "reset.bathing" which helped with the issue that sometimes while showering sims would wear clothes. I thought that might've for some reason break my game, but i deleted the mod and yet the game is still broken.
    Also after that i ran through the S4Studio fixes i never used before like "Disallow CC for shower", "Disallow CC for Aliens", "Disallow CC for townies" and "Disallow CC for vampire". Maybe that has something to do with the issue, i don't know.
    But i really really doubt that those things could break the game. Because if the mod causes issues (especially a scumbumbos mod) people usually point that out pretty quickly. And CC fixes... i mean, they're supposed to fix the game, not ruin it!

    They ruined it so bad, I had to pull everything and start over. Without CC this game isn't fun at all. They are like a big snowplow running through you game.
  • ParkPark Posts: 625 Member
    edited July 2018
    Koteyka wrote: »
    @Park, i haven't installed any software and I'm the only one who uses this computer. Yes, i've tried to restore a save made before the CC glitching and it didn't work either. And i've also tried a new game to make sure that it isn't just one save bugged.

    The only thing i think might've caused it the mod i downloaded called "Outfit Tools - Copy Any Outfit v2b" by scumbumbo. It had custom cheats and i used one of them called "reset.bathing" which helped with the issue that sometimes while showering sims would wear clothes. I thought that might've for some reason break my game, but i deleted the mod and yet the game is still broken.
    Also after that i ran through the S4Studio fixes i never used before like "Disallow CC for shower", "Disallow CC for Aliens", "Disallow CC for townies" and "Disallow CC for vampire". Maybe that has something to do with the issue, i don't know.
    But i really really doubt that those things could break the game. Because if the mod causes issues (especially a scumbumbos mod) people usually point that out pretty quickly. And CC fixes... i mean, they're supposed to fix the game, not ruin it!

    I purpled the additions I want to mention: Did you add these in that 2 to 3 day window? if yes I would suggest you take them out if for nothing else to rule them out.. But if you did these things right before the problems started I'd say you found the issue.

    Other than that, are there no hardware issues with your machine? Do you run an SSD or a traditional HDD? In either case issues with those can affect software operation. I know I am reaching here and my roomie is the household geek, not me but I picked up some things from her along the way about these infernal machines, and your issue is quite perplexing.


    @catitude5 Oh, as they say here in th States, "I hear ya" on that one! That they have to issue patches on a regularly scheduled basis -- "It's Patch Day!" -- is just plain annoying.

    Not only do most of them not even apply to my game, as we learned from the Pets patch they all too often generate more problems than they solve.


    (Remember that one? Your Sim Can Flirt With His or Her Dog!!)


    They had to burn midnight oil to patch that patch the next day.
  • KoteykaKoteyka Posts: 537 Member
    edited July 2018
    @Park, i think i've ran through those fixes right before the issue appeared. Maybe thats the problem... but why though? I never heard of that happening to anyone else. And if thats the issue then the only way to save my game would be deleting all of my cc and downloading it again which will be incredibly frustrating. :(
    I don't think i ever had software issues, but I'm really not a computer person so i can't be certain.
  • ParkPark Posts: 625 Member
    I can but imagine, but give removing those fixes a shot and if your game returns to normal, there you have it. Perhaps down the line those recent fixes will be, well, fixed and you can reinstall them. Though that's no doubt quite exasperating, it is the lesser of the evils, so to speak, that being playing "vanilla". I can't imagine going back to that.

    And in the future do as @catitude5 @Miki (the aforementioned ever-loving roomie) and I do, just to name the ones I know of, and don't allow future patches to run until the creators of your favourite mods can catch up.

    But with the frequency of these patches that may be a bit of a chore.

    Side note, quite unrelated, your avatar. Adorable!. What sort of creature is that?
  • KoteykaKoteyka Posts: 537 Member
    edited July 2018
    @Park, i tried to run the game with the unfixed files, yet It still didn't work. Makes me think maybe thats not the problem here... Well, anyways, thank you everyone for you help. :) Guess i'll just have to try reinstall all of the cc and if that doesn't help either, learn to play without it.

    (P.S Thats my Russian dwarf hamster on the avatar, glad you like him! :blush: )
  • MikiMiki Posts: 1,692 Member
    .. I heard my name called.

    I read the thread and the only time I had a game refuse to load as in getting stuck "loading" and playing the music, etc. But that was when I tried to load a very old save to 'go back to what once was". This doesn't seem to be your problem.

    I saw Kimmy's (Park) notes and if you ran a virus scan, if nothing but to rule out malware doing something to system resources and therefore affecting the game's ability to run-- and it shows clear then the issue is in the game program itself. Something happened those few days ago and now it's corrupted.

    You didn't mention deleting the entire Sims 4 folder. AFTER pulling out Saves, Tray, Mods and Config. The latter is optional) Put them on the desktop, delete the Sims 4 folder (or move it to the desktop. When you launch the game it generates a new one. First see if it'll load up. It'll be total vanilla but this way you'll see if it runs at all. Then replace the new Saves Tray and Mods folders inside with the ones you put on the desktop,.

    If the problem persists, then I'm afraid there's something it doesn't like about your CC. But that is odd because it happened well after the June patch yet before the July 10 one.

    One other thing, if you can load the game at all, even vanilla, check the game settings. perhaps some of the settings are too high. They shouldn't set themselves but I have seen where once I update the driver for the GPU, the settings go from "High" to "Very High" and I have to reset back to "High" because the latter causes lag in the game.

    Sorry I can't be of more help. If none of this works, set aside, as before, copies of your Saves Tray and Mods folders and uninstall/reinstall the game and any additional paid content you may have bought.

    This may take some time, as the base, any additional stuff and the patches will all load in whatever sequence the download sets.

    But this ought to fix the issue. And as always, add your CC and mods gradually and check to see if it still runs.

    Note: Scumbobo mods are usually pretty well done and shouldn't botch your game.
  • ParkPark Posts: 625 Member
    Koteyka wrote: »
    @Park,
    (P.S Thats my Russian dwarf hamster on the avatar, glad you like him! :blush: )
    Quite the adorable fellow. But "dwarf hamster"? I had thought hamsters were small to begin with. However I cannot claim to be knowledgeable about little animals.

  • KoteykaKoteyka Posts: 537 Member
    @Miki i did restart the sims folder. My CC/mods break quite often so i already know all of the methods to fix them and use them at least 2-3 times a year. I started this thread because i tried every single fix possible and none of them worked. But thanks for the reply :)

    @Park an average Syrian hamster is about 5-7 inches. A Russian dwarf hamster is only about 3 inches.
  • Bananas_45Bananas_45 Posts: 6,772 Member
    edited July 2018
    Going back to the scumbumbo Mod are you sure you deleted both the OutfitTtools.py and the OutfitTool.pyo files as well as the MTS_Scumbumbo_OutfitTools_v2b.ts4script file? You might still have part of the Mod if you downloaded both zips.
  • ParkPark Posts: 625 Member
    Koteyka wrote: »
    @Miki i did restart the sims folder. My CC/mods break quite often so i already know all of the methods to fix them and use them at least 2-3 times a year. I started this thread because i tried every single fix possible and none of them worked. But thanks for the reply :)

    @Park an average Syrian hamster is about 5-7 inches. A Russian dwarf hamster is only about 3 inches.

    Regarding the little creature.. Almost a mouse, but much cuter. Not sure how long they last, though. The smaller the shorter they say, at least with mammals.

    Regarding the issue of record, since you tried everything with no results I'm afraid you're going to have to uninstall and reinstall the game from scratch, setting the Saves folder aside at the very least. Of course see if the new game launches before reintroducing Saves because based on what I have seen personally with old saves, your "endless-load-and-music" issue is when you loada corrupted save and at this point, sorry to say, they may all have been ruined.

    Hope to be wrong on that one. As for Mods folder, save it for reference but after that .. I would start over and only with ones that worked before Scumbob's mod.

    He is usually rated quite well but if trouble started after that one, well, there lies the culprit, I'll wager.
  • Bananas_45Bananas_45 Posts: 6,772 Member
    Park wrote: »
    Koteyka wrote: »
    @Miki i did restart the sims folder. My CC/mods break quite often so i already know all of the methods to fix them and use them at least 2-3 times a year. I started this thread because i tried every single fix possible and none of them worked. But thanks for the reply :)

    @Park an average Syrian hamster is about 5-7 inches. A Russian dwarf hamster is only about 3 inches.

    Regarding the little creature.. Almost a mouse, but much cuter. Not sure how long they last, though. The smaller the shorter they say, at least with mammals.

    Regarding the issue of record, since you tried everything with no results I'm afraid you're going to have to uninstall and reinstall the game from scratch, setting the Saves folder aside at the very least. Of course see if the new game launches before reintroducing Saves because based on what I have seen personally with old saves, your "endless-load-and-music" issue is when you loada corrupted save and at this point, sorry to say, they may all have been ruined.

    Hope to be wrong on that one. As for Mods folder, save it for reference but after that .. I would start over and only with ones that worked before Scumbob's mod.

    He is usually rated quite well but if trouble started after that one, well, there lies the culprit, I'll wager.

    If you do this also set aside your tray folder or you will lose all of your Sims and Houses. You may want to set aside your screenshots too.
  • KoteykaKoteyka Posts: 537 Member
    edited July 2018
    Okay guys, i've created a new CC pack from scratch (for some reason its even bigger then the old one lol) and now everything seems to work fine. Thank you for all of your tips, i really appreciate that so many people responded. :)
  • MikiMiki Posts: 1,692 Member
    Very interesting and good to know you did not have to delete the whole thing and start over. I suppose you already know in the future to be wary of whatever you put in there. Modders test their work with the game and some of the larger mods, but I doubt they have the time to check their work with every mod or CC out there and/or all possible combinations therefrom. A "larger" CC file means you probably missed something the first time 'round.

    Some unsolicited geek advice: If not already done, you should consider a disk image backup of your entire system. This preserves everything on your HDD/SSD. Those are usually used when cloning a hard drive but have other useful attributes. Update it regularly and if anything like this happens anywhere in the system not just this game you can roll back the entire machine to where it was, preferably when it ran well, and you can go from there will less fuss and frustration and detective work which wastes a whole lot of time as you now know..

    I do disk image backups all the time as a solution to really bad malware such as ransomware. If one of their bugs should get into my system I simply zap the whole disk and restore an earlier image. All gone ransom ware all gone encryptions.. and the best part, No Bit coin For Them!

    And I mean disk image not the standard "backup" that comes with Windows. Saved to an external drive and offline, it is untouchable. "Backup" saves files and settings but not programs. A much more cumbersome proposition.
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