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A new pack type, the "Kit" is coming. Aka "Sims 3 store, 5 bucks for two chairs" is here

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  • FatTribble23FatTribble23 Posts: 845 Member
    I'm okay with this. I'd love to have a vacuum cleaner. If it's too expensive, I won't buy it. That said, I did have the entire store in Sims 3, but I watched an awful lot of ads for free sim points to get there. A system like that I would totally welcome. If it's all real money all the time, then I'll have to severely pick and choose.
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  • mcruddmcrudd Posts: 11,696 Member
    Let’s just blame the introduction of these TS4 Kits on every simmer who once bought items from the TS2 & TS3 store.

    *raises hand*

    Guilty.

    If you never did, you can go ahead and complain about them with a clear conscience.

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    Yip I owned those stores, had to have it all :D

    Very excited for these kit sets, do we know when they will be available ;)
  • LoanetLoanet Posts: 4,079 Member
    edited February 2021
    We need to complain now, before it's too late. Buying Microtransactions in the past doesn't mean you can just stand by now like a lazy goit.

    Might I add that a decent price or a decent quality is not too bad, but I've got a bad feeling that the quality is going to go downhill in a hurry. That, or EA is all pepped up to steal a LOT of CC. Technically they have the right to do so, since they own The Sims and the items are free on the Internet.
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  • DaepheneDaephene Posts: 1,760 Member
    Loanet wrote: »
    Just because some people are fine with paying more, they think that they are better than people who DON'T want to pay more. Then, when the price gets higher and the quality slowly gets lower, they get all righteous and like "Oh, how dare they lower quality and raise prices?!"

    The idea of a Kit is a good one, but I just don't trust EA with this kind of thing. We've seen how they treat microtransactions before.

    I get quite the opposite impression. That those who are willing to purchase additional packs are viewed as suckers, ❤️❤️❤️❤️, foolish, irresponsible, mindless, etc.

    It goes both ways. People who are willing to pay for the next new thing are called sheep and are apparently what's wrong with the entire gaming industry. Meanwhile people who are not satisfied with the content they've already paid for or wish the free updates were beefier are called ungrateful whiners who will drive the devs away. Mostly it's just people using exaggerated judgmental language to make their point because it's the internet.

    Sometimes I let it get under my skin, but in general no one's going to guilt me out of buying content if I think the price is fair for my budget and how much use I'll get out of it. Likewise, no one can make me feel happy about aspects of the game I strongly dislike. Mostly I just choose which threads to engage with based on my tolerance for tone at the time.

    It remains to be seen where the kits will fall for me. Until they are actually out there affecting the game in some way it's hard to tell.
  • SheriSim57SheriSim57 Posts: 6,934 Member
    edited February 2021
    Simmingal wrote: »
    SheriSim57 wrote: »
    Simmingal wrote: »
    To all the people saying it's microtransactions it's no different than the ts3 store. I actually like this.

    thats exactly why i do not want it.
    traumas from ts3 store.

    definitely don't want that back.

    especially because I already foresee they will probably find this new excuse to shove occults and other interesting stuff in even smaller packs of no gameplay

    heck might just end up with dragons kit where dragons are again reskinned bird for which btw first they make bird kit that is separate

    p_p yes ive seen the scheme EA
    don't you dare do that to ts4
    dragon valley was mean enough

    Kind of speaking of occult’s, I want a kit that has a real witches hat with no spider, and a Dracula cape for vampires. Sooo.. I would like to a pack with some extra occult clothes...... maybe a throwback to old fashion witches and vampires with lots of clothes, and maybe even hairstyles, and jewelry.

    yes I wouldn't mind if kit or stuff pack adds to existing occult pack that'd be actually nice like fantasy kids stuff or fantastical fashion or something

    but i really wish new occults get introduced in at least gp size pack and have as much gameplay as possible to them and they don't go trying to fit them in small stuff or kits like "hehe werewolf is just body hair ears and howling right" "theyll be content with this right we dont need actual pack for this"

    ...cause i definitely felt that kind of thing happened way too often with ts3 store and yeah pls no i would need to be locked in very soft room to air my grievances if that happened

    then again I also feel even kids fantasy stuff be cuter with some gameplay items but.. :sweat_smile:

    ye. don't really get why kits cause mostly you could just make cooler stuff pack by adding couple gameplay items :/

    perhaps in cases like makeup where i dont really see gameplay addition but i would yeah perhaps like big addition to makeup selection for aesthetics

    No, I don’t expect a kit pack to replace occult packs. Just add some more traditional clothes like you said. I would also love a gothic clothes pack, especially for teens I just thought that since they were adding a fitness throwback kit. Maybe they could add a vampire and witch throwback clothes kit that would be much more appealing to me than the clothes they added in the occult packs. I don’t use CC, so a traditional witch and vampire clothes pack is something I would really be happy to have.
  • SimsLady2000SimsLady2000 Posts: 1,236 Member
    I try very hard to ignore other peoples' opinions HAHA. I don't even follow the game-changers at all. Generally speaking, many different games offer this type of purchase, an a-la-cart option for items so to speak. It's not a new idea. I am willing to risk using a ton of CC so paying a few dollars for maxis-made items is ok by me as well.
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  • AncaryvanAncaryvan Posts: 736 Member
    edited March 2021
    I am so grateful the toddler already updated Before KP is introduced. Otherwise, Oh toddlers that will be $7.00 KP for that option. What a Movalble Baby? Well that'll be $9.50 KP value because Making Baby Crawl takes Lot Animation.

    Basically start selling pieces of base game that do not ready on launch day! Patching the base game requires money.What an honest greed.


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  • ChadSims2ChadSims2 Posts: 5,090 Member
    Okay...this is just a thought, but what if by putting some of these minor BB and CAS items in smaller packs like this they are freed up to focus more on gameplay in the bigger packs?

    Don’t throw stuff at me, I will throw it back! *runs*
    Oh wait are they going to start putting game play in bigger packs, the kits are a miracle!
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  • APottsAPotts Posts: 2,448 Member
    edited February 2021
    I need to know more, before I decide. If they are fairly priced I would buy that kitchen in a heartbeat. The other two don't interest me yet.

    I also liked the Sims 3 store. Yes, everything was overpriced, and too often buggy, but the things it offered really expanded your choices. I doubt they will take this route, but things like the Casino pack, the arcade pack, the rollercoaster and the merry go round would be nice to have again. The Sims 3 store also added new worlds as well as clothing packs that focused on sims other than the adult females that the expansions are so obsessed with. Give me a decent clothing pack for my male Sims and some more clothes for my kids and teens and price them fairly and I would be on board.

  • SimmingalSimmingal Posts: 8,888 Member
    edited February 2021
    SheriSim57 wrote: »
    No, I don’t expect a kit pack to replace occult packs.

    i mean i absolutely hope they don't try that but I don't trust EA on this

    they traumatized me with ts3 store and i still get depressed even thinking about it and these kits just resemble those overpriced lackluster sets too much

    so me and EA is just not vibing with trust atm
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  • TriplisTriplis Posts: 3,048 Member
    I get quite the opposite impression. That those who are willing to purchase additional packs are viewed as suckers, ❤️❤️❤️❤️, foolish, irresponsible, mindless, etc.

    None of us are suckers, but we are all being relentlessly bombarded with the manipulative work of entire departments devoted to "marketing," so that is something to keep in mind about any buying of a product or service. Nobody, however clever they think they are, is immune to marketing. A lot of it is insidious and subtle, precisely because there are a lot of people who would actively resist if they noticed it happening.

    We are all, to some degree, brainwashed about purchasing things in general.

    That's not to say we don't have any agency about it, but just to be real about it for a moment. There's no reason for anyone to do some insulting thing where they say that some people are suckers and others are smart. It's neither one. Some people have better impulse control for various reasons or are more susceptible to some kinds of marketing, which factors into purchasing, but that's not something you choose to have more of or not. And some people just have more money they can spend on stuff like this, so they care less about watching what and where they spend. That also factors in.

    Nobody should ever feel foolish for buying a product, considering how much work goes into convincing you to buy it. But there's also nothing wrong with trying to be frugal and withhold on purchasing for whatever reason. The whole thing of us being against each other instead of considering the system we're dealing with as a whole, is a real problem.

    I mean, if it helps, I will say there was a time I spent quite a bit on MTX for SWTOR. And looking back, it almost feels like a different person who did it. Like I remember kind of how I rationalized it, but I didn't really want or need it that much, it was more like I was trying to come up with an excuse to do it the way an addict might rationalize taking another hit. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that's what you do or saying anything about you or your purchases specifically. I'm just saying, stuff like this is a part of the overall picture of what we're dealing with.
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  • adamzaidadamzaid Posts: 1,999 Member
    as long as its fairly priced unlike the sims 3 store which was actually absurdly expensive. im in with this idea. rlly my question is why add a new pack type 6 years into development of the game? im not complaining doe i kinda like the idea and i like the content i see on offer and i can guess most of u like the content as well but hate the idea of kits
  • KartaiKartai Posts: 1,206 Member
    This a hint they are losing money?? The last push before the sims 5?
  • CAPTAIN_NXR7CAPTAIN_NXR7 Posts: 4,451 Member
    bixters wrote: »
    Let’s just blame the introduction of these TS4 Kits on every simmer who once bought items from the TS2 & TS3 store.

    *raises hand*

    Guilty.

    If you never did, you can go ahead and complain about them with a clear conscience.

    I guess I'm guilt free! I never bought anything from either of the stores!

    So, I guess I can complain as much as I want :D

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  • RySBIRySBI Posts: 328 Member
    Personally I don't see a problem with this at all. The game doesn't lose any significant functionality without these optional extras. They're just nice-to-have's if you particularly like that one thing. I don't think the devs expect most people to buy them all.

    It would be a different story if an essential feature was locked behind a paywall.
  • SimburianSimburian Posts: 6,907 Member
    I like the idea of optional extras. I only like one of the advertised ones, so need only buy that one. It's a good way to wean oneself off an addiction.
  • charmed4life4charmed4life4 Posts: 178 Member
    This is clearly the last push to make money before Sims 5. I also see this as the future of The Sims and I personally will not be participating. Modders and CC creators have already made "kits" possible for free so why would I be silly enough to pay the more than likely $5 for this? Breaking packs down even more is a huge scam. You know these items have more than likely been on the shelf for years and someone had the "great" idea to further microtransaction the heck out of players. If it has a system to earn these packs like in the Sims 3 store (I never paid for any of the extra content as I was able to earn the coins), then I can get behind this.
  • izecsonizecson Posts: 2,875 Member
    edited February 2021
    The Kit Packs though as much as I feel neutral about it I can't help but feel these will be the last downloadable contents The Sims 4 will only receive before The Sims 5 came out, since it's easier to make just one gameplay objects, or maybe we will get one last Final EP SP and GP before they decided to wrap this game.

    Do people really attacking us players who bought stuff from TS2/TS3 Stores? lol really??
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  • LiELFLiELF Posts: 6,439 Member
    So, I see a lot of people comparing the Kit Packs to the Sims 3 store and making all kinds of assumptions, yet we don't even know the details of these packs yet so I think it's still a little premature to go full boycott or support before we know what this is about.

    For myself, I hated the Sims 3 store and never bought anything because mainly... Sim Points. The two main things that made me recoil about the store were/are the need to buy Sim Points and that the store is right in your face in CAS, right at the top, first thing you see. That store also got pushed and pushed and pushed more to get all of the money. Now, if the store items did not use a points system and had direct prices, sales and discounts for full sets, I may have seen it differently. Although I never purchased a thing from the Sims 2 store either. But that was just "meh" to me, I didn't think the items were worth the money so I didn't spend it. The entire premise of a points system is to get the customer to spend more money than they intended. If you just wanted one of the store worlds, you had to spend forty dollars to get enough Sim points to purchase it. That's the same exact cost of an entire EP. Then you would have points left over, so you look around the store for something else to buy, and guess what? You get your heart fixed on a great set, but now you don't have quite enough points to afford it, so you have to go buy some more Sim Points. Oh sure, you could just get one or two items from it, but now the rest of the set is going to sit in your mind until you have it, and you might have to look at those pieces every time you scroll through CAS. This is why I think the Sims 3 store was the absolute worst for the customer. Yes, they had ads and freebees with EPs and blah, blah. This is exactly what cash cow mobile games do and they weren't offered out of the goodness of EA's heart, they were offered because EA racked up more money from sponsors. But look, the Sims 3 store still sits there, waiting for players to overspend, Sim Points are still available and when you go into the game, the store is still in your face, but you can at least disable it. And honestly, in my opinion, many items were better in the store than they were in packs. But that's, of course, subjective.

    Anyway, as far as this Kit leak goes, I don't feel any particular compulsion for any of it. As I said before, I'm still curious to see what it's about, what they cost, and the premise of them. They do feel rather redundant and a part of me wonders why they don't just get added into upcoming larger packs. But if, in the end, it's a way to offer extras from the different dev departments that are just content overflow, I don't know, I might see the potential, but it will still depend on cost, frequency, details, and if I feel it effects larger packs or not. At least we'll know more soon.
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  • CellardwellerCellardweller Posts: 92 Member
    I'd need to see what it's all about first - does it make sense or is it just nickel and diming the consumer? Kind of like cable vs streaming. Cable was a one stop shop that cost too much - aha streaming is going to be so much cheaper! BUT now you need to subscribe to 12 different services that all have exclusive content and seem like a lot less but after you add them all up they're almost as expensive as the cable one stop shop. If things are moving in this direction of bleeding the consumer slowly, I'm going to go back to real world hobbies where I can make some real stuff. Probably a better use of my time anyway.
  • SERVERFRASERVERFRA Posts: 7,108 Member
    Unfortunately, the Sims 3 Store still doesn't work properly. When I decided to play Sims 3 again back in 2018 & bough the points to get Midnight Hollow & Dragon Alley & installed them, they briefly worked, then my game didn't even acknowledged that I own & installed them. It was a waste of money. Hopefully, these "kits" won't make the mistakes that were in the Sims 3 Store.
  • GoldmoldarGoldmoldar Posts: 11,966 Member
    bixters wrote: »
    Sk8rblaze wrote: »
    They’re testing out ideas for The Sims 5.

    The clownery of thinking your 7 year old product held together by glue and band-aids is worthy of yet ANOTHER line of DLC packs. 🤡

    So glad I stopped purchasing packs a long time ago, and I DEFINITELY don’t plan on starting again with a mess like this.

    It's sad that EA thinks that this will revitalize the Sims 4. Not improved babies, cars, or personalities. But more DLC :|

    This will make customers even more confused. I can't imagine being a new customer, how baffling the amount of DLC must be.

    Agreed but there are a few features that come to mind if it was possible that would revitalize the Sims 4 for me and one is Neighborhood creation tools(Not going to happen though as it will cut down on some customers needing them to make more static neighborhoods) for me.
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  • ashcrash19ashcrash19 Posts: 4,406 Member
    I'm wondering if these were assets that were bought/conceptualized but didn't make it to packs on time, and/or ideas that they wanted to include but didn't fully fit in a certain theme yet. I think these have the potential to be fun and please players who only wanted some objects out of a pack rather than the whole idea. Will of course wait and see but I'm cautiously excited.
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  • Sk8rblazeSk8rblaze Posts: 7,570 Member
    Loanet wrote: »
    We need to complain now, before it's too late. Buying Microtransactions in the past doesn't mean you can just stand by now like a lazy goit.

    No, it's honestly a waste of everyone's time because EA does not respond to social media or forum criticism in this regard. The only way you will see a response from EA is if you, and many others, do not purchase kit packs.

    Make no mistake -- I'm not advocating anyone to do anything with their money; it's your choice. But I've seen the way EA works, and if you are against anything with them, you simply do not purchase. If it does nothing, then simply take your business elsewhere. Life is too short to force yourself to buy into a game you aren't enjoying.
  • LoanetLoanet Posts: 4,079 Member
    None of what's in the pack is BAD. But I predict it will be overpriced. And if we accept it being overpriced now, you just wait a few months for it to go up a buck or two.
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