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When did pool ladders become useless?

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Hi all,
I just noticed that my sims just haul themselves out of the pool and that when I click on the ladder, no options appear. Has this always been the case and I just never noticed? I always put ladders in the pools to avoid sims drowning to death, but I'm wondering if there is any use for the ladder at all.

Thanks
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  • EmmaVaneEmmaVane Posts: 6,016 Member
    They are there mainly for decoration/animation now. It's more realistic that sims can climb out without them, and sit on the edge to eat/socialise etc.

    If you want to drown them, fence in the pool once they are in it.
  • LosaruTaiyoLosaruTaiyo Posts: 10,261 Member
    I think some still use them, but it's like in real life. Sure I'm not the most athletic, but I can still haul myself out of a pool (although admitted I use the ladder in the deep end. Deep water scares me)
  • MarktnMarktn Posts: 552 Member
    Awe, that's the way I used to off pesky NPC sims. Just disappear the ladder.
  • JoAnne65JoAnne65 Posts: 21,166 Member
    EmmaVane wrote: »
    They are there mainly for decoration/animation now. It's more realistic that sims can climb out without them, and sit on the edge to eat/socialise etc.

    If you want to drown them, fence in the pool once they are in it.
    I think it's quite realistic to leave a pool using a ladder? :o
  • calaprfycalaprfy Posts: 1,566 Member
    No point in having a pool at the moment with sims not wanting to swim.
  • EmmaVaneEmmaVane Posts: 6,016 Member
    JoAnne65 wrote: »
    EmmaVane wrote: »
    They are there mainly for decoration/animation now. It's more realistic that sims can climb out without them, and sit on the edge to eat/socialise etc.

    If you want to drown them, fence in the pool once they are in it.
    I think it's quite realistic to leave a pool using a ladder? :o

    It is, but it's unrealistic that they couldn't climb out WITHOUT one. That was my point.

    Growing up my local pool had ladders at the deep and shallow ends. The entrance to the changing rooms was in the middle, no ladder there. Easiest to climb out without the ladder in the middle, than go to the end and potentially have to queue at the ladder.
  • lsnishilsnishi Posts: 1,697 Member
    Were the ladders always decorative in Sims 4? I never noticed till today.
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  • itsugitsug Posts: 1,608 Member
    lsnishi wrote: »
    Were the ladders always decorative in Sims 4? I never noticed till today.

    I actually dont have a long answer to this.
    But yes, we have always been able to get up from the edge, since the pool patch. :)
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  • lsnishilsnishi Posts: 1,697 Member
    Thanks all! I guess I've been unobservant and assumed they had to use the ladders like in Sims 3.
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  • NectereNectere Posts: 1,000 Member
    calaprfy wrote: »
    No point in having a pool at the moment with sims not wanting to swim.

    Are they still not able to swim and do laps? The only thing my sims will do is use the diving board repeatedly till they are bored and wander off to do something else
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  • JoAnne65JoAnne65 Posts: 21,166 Member
    EmmaVane wrote: »
    JoAnne65 wrote: »
    EmmaVane wrote: »
    They are there mainly for decoration/animation now. It's more realistic that sims can climb out without them, and sit on the edge to eat/socialise etc.

    If you want to drown them, fence in the pool once they are in it.
    I think it's quite realistic to leave a pool using a ladder? :o

    It is, but it's unrealistic that they couldn't climb out WITHOUT one. That was my point.

    Growing up my local pool had ladders at the deep and shallow ends. The entrance to the changing rooms was in the middle, no ladder there. Easiest to climb out without the ladder in the middle, than go to the end and potentially have to queue at the ladder.
    Ah, sorry, like in 1 and 2 you mean, my bad ;) It's odd they can't use the ladder though isn't it?

    I tried to find the asnwer to the question by the way (were they able to use a ladder before) and found this article.
    Vaughan said that player reaction to a Sims game without pools was so intense that developers knew they had to rectify the situation as soon as possible. This time around, however, Sims have the ability to sit on the side of pools and climb out without use of a ladder, eliminating the fan-favorite way of knocking them off.
    Sitting on the side is new (and great, I think the way sims in and out of the pool can interact with each other has improved anyway), but climbing out 'this time around'?

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    I must have one headstrong Sims 3 sim :p
  • DreamsInPixelsDreamsInPixels Posts: 4,466 Member
    JoAnne65 wrote: »
    EmmaVane wrote: »
    JoAnne65 wrote: »
    EmmaVane wrote: »
    They are there mainly for decoration/animation now. It's more realistic that sims can climb out without them, and sit on the edge to eat/socialise etc.

    If you want to drown them, fence in the pool once they are in it.
    I think it's quite realistic to leave a pool using a ladder? :o

    It is, but it's unrealistic that they couldn't climb out WITHOUT one. That was my point.

    Growing up my local pool had ladders at the deep and shallow ends. The entrance to the changing rooms was in the middle, no ladder there. Easiest to climb out without the ladder in the middle, than go to the end and potentially have to queue at the ladder.
    Ah, sorry, like in 1 and 2 you mean, my bad ;) It's odd they can't use the ladder though isn't it?

    I tried to find the asnwer to the question by the way (were they able to use a ladder before) and found this article.
    Vaughan said that player reaction to a Sims game without pools was so intense that developers knew they had to rectify the situation as soon as possible. This time around, however, Sims have the ability to sit on the side of pools and climb out without use of a ladder, eliminating the fan-favorite way of knocking them off.
    Sitting on the side is new (and great, I think the way sims in and out of the pool can interact with each other has improved anyway), but climbing out 'this time around'?

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    I must have one headstrong Sims 3 sim :p

    Yeah I was gonna say...wasn't the ladder usless since ts3? lol
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  • king_of_simcity7king_of_simcity7 Posts: 21,335 Member
    They have been useless since TS3 as some players who wanted to drown their Sims may have found out :hushed:
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  • TheGoodOldGamerTheGoodOldGamer Posts: 3,559 Member
    I always thought it was silly Sims 1 Sims couldn't get out on their own tbh, lol. But then they couldn't hardly do anything on their own (including flushing a toilet as I've seen with TheSimSupply lately playing it). I'm more than happy for these quality of life improvements, lol.
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  • MidnightAuraMidnightAura Posts: 4,510 Member
    They have been useless since TS3 as some players who wanted to drown their Sims may have found out :hushed:

    I found out the hard way!

    In my defence...the sim in question was obsessed and I mean obsessed with the deep fat fryer thing. Every meal he was at it. He would have got fatter, I was just putting him out his misery early.

    Or so I thought.
  • king_of_simcity7king_of_simcity7 Posts: 21,335 Member
    They have been useless since TS3 as some players who wanted to drown their Sims may have found out :hushed:

    I found out the hard way!

    In my defence...the sim in question was obsessed and I mean obsessed with the deep fat fryer thing. Every meal he was at it. He would have got fatter, I was just putting him out his misery early.

    Or so I thought.

    Just build a wall around the pool :*
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  • Writin_RegWritin_Reg Posts: 26,975 Member
    In Sims 3 Sims stopped using ladders but for kids and elder mostly. Sounds like real life actually. LOL.

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  • Uzone27Uzone27 Posts: 2,689 Member
    They will use them more often if you place them in the spot they most often use to route out of the pool...but admittedly it doesn't always work.
  • JoAnne65JoAnne65 Posts: 21,166 Member
    JoAnne65 wrote: »
    EmmaVane wrote: »
    JoAnne65 wrote: »
    EmmaVane wrote: »
    They are there mainly for decoration/animation now. It's more realistic that sims can climb out without them, and sit on the edge to eat/socialise etc.

    If you want to drown them, fence in the pool once they are in it.
    I think it's quite realistic to leave a pool using a ladder? :o

    It is, but it's unrealistic that they couldn't climb out WITHOUT one. That was my point.

    Growing up my local pool had ladders at the deep and shallow ends. The entrance to the changing rooms was in the middle, no ladder there. Easiest to climb out without the ladder in the middle, than go to the end and potentially have to queue at the ladder.
    Ah, sorry, like in 1 and 2 you mean, my bad ;) It's odd they can't use the ladder though isn't it?

    I tried to find the asnwer to the question by the way (were they able to use a ladder before) and found this article.
    Vaughan said that player reaction to a Sims game without pools was so intense that developers knew they had to rectify the situation as soon as possible. This time around, however, Sims have the ability to sit on the side of pools and climb out without use of a ladder, eliminating the fan-favorite way of knocking them off.
    Sitting on the side is new (and great, I think the way sims in and out of the pool can interact with each other has improved anyway), but climbing out 'this time around'?

    Screenshot-56_zpsuzdcakdf.png

    Screenshot-56a_zpsthb5lcxt.png

    I must have one headstrong Sims 3 sim :p

    Yeah I was gonna say...wasn't the ladder usless since ts3? lol
    Not useless in the sense they can also use that if they want to ;) But if you want to drown a sim in 3 (guilty as charged...) you'll indeed have to build a wall around it :p
  • CursedDiceCursedDice Posts: 853 Member
    lsnishi wrote: »
    Thanks all! I guess I've been unobservant and assumed they had to use the ladders like in Sims 3.

    Sims 3 sims didn't use ladders either from what I remember
  • DreamsInPixelsDreamsInPixels Posts: 4,466 Member
    JoAnne65 wrote: »
    JoAnne65 wrote: »
    EmmaVane wrote: »
    JoAnne65 wrote: »
    EmmaVane wrote: »
    They are there mainly for decoration/animation now. It's more realistic that sims can climb out without them, and sit on the edge to eat/socialise etc.

    If you want to drown them, fence in the pool once they are in it.
    I think it's quite realistic to leave a pool using a ladder? :o

    It is, but it's unrealistic that they couldn't climb out WITHOUT one. That was my point.

    Growing up my local pool had ladders at the deep and shallow ends. The entrance to the changing rooms was in the middle, no ladder there. Easiest to climb out without the ladder in the middle, than go to the end and potentially have to queue at the ladder.
    Ah, sorry, like in 1 and 2 you mean, my bad ;) It's odd they can't use the ladder though isn't it?

    I tried to find the asnwer to the question by the way (were they able to use a ladder before) and found this article.
    Vaughan said that player reaction to a Sims game without pools was so intense that developers knew they had to rectify the situation as soon as possible. This time around, however, Sims have the ability to sit on the side of pools and climb out without use of a ladder, eliminating the fan-favorite way of knocking them off.
    Sitting on the side is new (and great, I think the way sims in and out of the pool can interact with each other has improved anyway), but climbing out 'this time around'?

    Screenshot-56_zpsuzdcakdf.png

    Screenshot-56a_zpsthb5lcxt.png

    I must have one headstrong Sims 3 sim :p

    Yeah I was gonna say...wasn't the ladder usless since ts3? lol
    Not useless in the sense they can also use that if they want to ;) But if you want to drown a sim in 3 (guilty as charged...) you'll indeed have to build a wall around it :p

    Which makes them useless to me. I only use the pool to drown sims ;)
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  • DegrassiGenDegrassiGen Posts: 2,168 Member
    lsnishi wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I just noticed that my sims just haul themselves out of the pool and that when I click on the ladder, no options appear. Has this always been the case and I just never noticed? I always put ladders in the pools to avoid sims drowning to death, but I'm wondering if there is any use for the ladder at all.

    Thanks

    Since The Sims 3 Sims have the wonderful ability to save their own behinds from drowning via climb on the side of the pool. So this has been part of the franchise since 2009 when the sims 3 was released! So Happy Swimming Simming Swimming Simming Simmer! :)
  • ANNETTE1951ANNETTE1951 Posts: 335 Member
    I also felt a wee bit frustrated when my sims never used the pool ladder. I cannot imagine an older, heavier sim being able to haul plum out of the pool at the drop of a hat plus the burn one would get on their thighs from rubbing on the cement, that has to hurt.
  • Kilov17Kilov17 Posts: 1,624 Member
    calaprfy wrote: »
    No point in having a pool at the moment with sims not wanting to swim.
    One minor fact about Sims 4 that is an itch that I can't scratch and drives me nuts!

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  • lsnishilsnishi Posts: 1,697 Member
    lsnishi wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I just noticed that my sims just haul themselves out of the pool and that when I click on the ladder, no options appear. Has this always been the case and I just never noticed? I always put ladders in the pools to avoid sims drowning to death, but I'm wondering if there is any use for the ladder at all.

    Thanks

    Since The Sims 3 Sims have the wonderful ability to save their own behinds from drowning via climb on the side of the pool. So this has been part of the franchise since 2009 when the sims 3 was released! So Happy Swimming Simming Swimming Simming Simmer! :)

    Wow, I must really be oblivious. I started playing the Sims with Sims 2. I played Sims 3 for years and never noticed they could haul themselves out. Just noticed it yesterday.... :*

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