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Stuff from older pack in new EP... It is some new in Snowy escape?
Kniga_Sitara
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I'm most disappointed that a lot of things are just a new version of old things. Almost nothing new. Just skiing and such, but it is tied to this world.
I think I didn't have to buy so many packages (fitness, spa, outdoor).
I wonder what's new here? only ski and map...
I think I didn't have to buy so many packages (fitness, spa, outdoor).
I wonder what's new here? only ski and map...
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Maybe you should make a list of copies of things that annoy you and we can respond to it.
As for just skiing and such being the only new things, you might want to rewatch the trailers and reread the blogs. And skiing and such are big, new things. They went from a half-pipe to an entire mountain with a bunny slope and four harder slopes, or do you think these are copies of the half-pipe interactions too?
Or they could put some new exercise tools in this package as compensation ... Will there be a climbing skill now? or will athletics be enough? The climbing wall can't be outside because the rain will destroy it ... We were very grateful for it, but now I feel disappointed. It would belong here.
Second: repellent sprays .. third version. Boredom!
Third: New type of tent. Um nice, but almost useless if you have Granite Falls. And I love camping, but it's just what we already have!
Fourth: Meditation, I don't know, they showed little of it in the trailer, but well, what about the wellness skill? we already have. If they preferred to add martial arts!
Fifth: Spa, yes it's a little different, because it's natural hot springs, but basically a repetition of what we have.
I don't mind if they build upon a skill from a previous pack, but yeah it does seem like this pack just took skills from previous packs, like the new lifestyles reminds me of the quirks from get famous. So it doesn't seem like it expands the game play in that sims are not able to function in a way they never have before.
This pack is a pass for me. I like the ability to build with platforms but not for $20 (I don't pay full price for packs). And I am not a big snow person, making snow pals and snow angels is good enough for me
First: The fitness package came long before Snowy Escape was conceived. So how would they known not to add it to Fitness Stuff? Yes, there is a new climbing skill.
Second: A new repellent spray for the new electric bugs is hardly worth mentioning, being as small of an add as they are.
Third: Not everyone has Outdoor Retreat so how would they get a tent unless it was added in this pack? It's not a good idea to assume that everyone has every pack.
Forth: Meditation, zen (mindfulness) and wellness are different branches on the same tree, but, one does not cover all three. Each is achieved in a different way for different results. You can Google the differences at your leisure. You could make the same argument for new foods or drinks. As long as a sim completes their nourishment needs, why create different foods with every pack? They all do the same thing with no difference to your sim.
Fifth: The Bathhouse is not a repetition of what we already have (again, if you have Spa Day at all) but different. In Spa Day we got massages, body, hand and foot, a steam room with woohoo, private showers, tubs got new soaks like mud, rose petals, etc. Gym equipment and yoga, just to name a few features.
Snowy Escape's bathhouse gives us indoor/outdoor hot springs with woohoo, open (I'm guessing unisex) showers, and, possibly, communal dressing/undressing. Your sim can even fall asleep in the hot springs.
There are similarities between Spa Day and Snowy Escape's bathhouses but, they are also very different. As if you and your sibling were similar (sharing the same parents) but totally different people. Similar, but not the same.
Things in this new pack that were in others.
Tents
Bond Fire
Woohoo Bush
Woohoo Closet
Hottubs aka Hot Springs
Wall Showers from Uni
This pack: Festivals, Hot Springs, Hiking, Japanese Gardens, finding your zen, rock climbing, electric bugs.
Other packs: Festivals, Hot Tubs, Camping, Parks, meditation/yoga, wall climbing, fire bats.
There are some new things in this pack like skiing but I can see how many features can feel like features that we have gotten in older packs.
I wouldn't care if there was plenty of other new content as well. But there isn't. So, you're basically paying $40 for a world, snow activities and reskinned animations from other packs. IMO, not worth $40.
For that matter, chairs, tables, doors, windows, beds, basically almost everything has been done before in some manner or fashion. I don't get what the big deal is. If you're shopping for a new chair, it's probably not very different from other chairs that you already own. How many chairs do you already own that are different yet the same?
The hot springs are so much bigger than the hot tubs. I also read that they are supposed to relieve pain from snow injuries.
yes! This is my view! If they give enough new so I do not care about use older stuff. But they no..
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This makes no sense. That is why we have little stuff packs with small activities and game packs with one feature. So you can choose what you want in your game. Now I have to pay for second spa thing and many other reskinned animations to get the world and winter sports. I am actually punished for having more packs. And I should be rewarded instead - it does not making any sense.
I am really sad because of lack of connetions between the packs.
Yes but here is no very really new things. They can give us Go, better for this world as chess, But no... No active Zen garden, nothing about tea..
As long as the new things are the focus and the reused things are to enhance, I'm fine with it.
While I may agree with you, seeing that this pack contains snow does not require folks to own seasons as there is skiing in the pack and one cannot ski w/o snow. If I am correct this pack is one of those packs where certain features are restricted to that pack and may not be accessible in other areas of the game. So for me this does not defeat the purpose of why buy seasons? Now if EA/Maxis pulled an move and state you must own Seasons to experience snow in SE that would be foul and they would actually shoot themselves in the foot with that. It depends on how one looks at it. also if one does not own Seasons they may have no control of controlling the weather as those who own Seasons.
The new dining table and seats? Platforms. They would have had to redo animations for that a little bit since they aren't sitting at a dining chair height. Looks like taking off shoes is new too. Not all big things, but new things that will make a difference and along with skiing, snowboarding AND sledding (3 new animations at least), bowing to greet. What about lifestyles and sentiments? Vacation lots and livable lots in one world. Vending machines. To me, it seems that this pack, while using a lot of old animations and ideas, are still tying it in with a lot of new ones as well. Arguably more than some packs over the past year or so. We still don't know a lot yet either, mind you and we will see a more in depth dive into what is all in this pack on the livestream later today.
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Danny has ended the discussion lol
Not including all the new things we're going to pretend doesn't exist in this pack?
Hiking together is a new activity a lot of simmers wanted.
All the items and new activities with new complex animations they had to make for it.
The festivals are basically new with new things to do there and even fun things for kids
Possibly new things with the cave we haven't seen.
Sure we could camp before but now we can camp at the top of a mountain that takes work to get there!! That's totally new.
A new snow thunder storm! And new deaths.
A new way of eating. Plus according to the description you can even choose which utensil you want to eat with.
New way of greeting. New curses you can get from the new graveyard
New swimming area is always welcome in my game. should they not have included this because we already have swimming in Sulani? Well I want swimming in every new world.
New things to add to sims personality plus stuff I didn't mention and things we don't know yet.
I get what your'e saying but this argument just doesn't work too well with this pack that is full of totally new fun stuff and a new use for old similar things. Even to me climbing a wall from fitness stuff and climbing a hudge snowy stormy mountain with climbing gear is in a whole nother league. We can even argue that the animation for it is the same maybe? But how many different motions are there in climbing in real life to make it unique?
Just imagine if they told us "sorry guys, we wanted to let you climb up a mountain but you probably already have fitness stuff so just climb that outside in the blizzard and pretend you are on a moutain." I would be like 😭😭😭😭😭 lol
They are most likely going to add similar features in future packs as well so the question remains how different they will feel, it depends a lot on how they are used in the game.
I'm usually against them reusing features when it doesn't look good or does not make sense, like the cafeteria in Discover University, they just reused the market stand so the sim is standing there and shouting in the cafeteria, why would a person ever do that?
But if they have features that are different enough and makes sense, then I'm fine with it.
At least there is skiing, ok and does not look bad, but it is only for this area. Uniforms are also said to be for this area only ....
A children's festival? Lol, there's a do that just art tables and chemical (at least that's finally a new chemical, after all these years), but just nothing new.
Yeah mountaineering looks good here, but they just had to throw in a new exercise machine! Why they just didn't need so much that when the animations are already ...
YES, I know, a new spray for electric beetles, but it's just boring, you go somewhere and you get attacked by insects, they just used it many times. I'd rather have something new!
The city is gorgeous, and it's not just a sight, no new gameplay. No new challenge. And they spend for nonsense like buying clothes at a vending machine! OMG, that's so useless!
Just when they recycled so many things I would expect a lot of new ones. But it did not happen. Just skiing and one type of table ..
Exactly
And I wish sims could "rake"/tend the zen gardens.
But the vending machine does shake and the sims could get injured by it.
I agree with Dannydanbo on this. Some stuff is similar, but different enough. I also don't have all packs so I am glad they add these features, like the hot springs and the rock climbing. Even if I had Fitness Stuff, climbing in a gym is way different than climbing a real mountain. If I play a sim in Oasis Spring, I would go to the gym maybe everyday to climb the wall but I would not go to Mt. Komorebi every day, just ocasionally. Just like in real life, going far away from your house is not something you can do every day.
I do prefer more festivals. The Geek Con is not the same as this new festival.