AloeVista wrote: »
The fact that a lot of you who disagree with them are referring to people as 'toxic,' 'overtly negative,' and brushing off their opinions as merely unjust vitriol paints you as being the toxic ones, and you're being quite unfair in that regard.
SimmerGeorge wrote: »
It's crazy how much money simmers are willing to spend on such little content. Same goes for packs like Island living, City living, Outdoor retreat and so on. I love it how you always try to find the positive and that's great but sometimes companies will take advantage of that.
Also if there were any big features coming with this pack, they would be in the trailer. The main features are what you've seen, why would they hide them?
simfriend1968 wrote: »
Sigh, once again a thread that was supposed to be positive about Eco Lifestyle has devolved into a series of general rants and attacks against Sims 4. I don't understand that as there are plenty of complaining and negative threads already where these sorts of criticisms could be posted to a receptive audience. The Sims is a game that has always attracted many different types of players, and I think it is perfectly fine for them to make a more niche pack that will appeal to those players who want more environmentally friendly gameplay options like recycling, composting, refurbishing trash, candle-making, and sims living off what they find and restore, etc., in their games. I know I do: I am really looking forward to this pack. Since not all packs will appeal to everyone, if a pack isn't for you then why not just give it a pass rather than criticizing every little thing before we have really seen what it looks like?
I think it's perfectly valid to level some criticisms at the game and have been known to do it a time or two myself. I personally wish they'd make all traits and the negative emotions more impactful (along the lines for what Carl from Carl's Sims Guides has suggested since he has some sensible ideas). But imo there's a difference between constructive criticism and outright rudeness to the developer team, calling them really bad and their work a disgrace. Individual members of the team don't all have the same amount of input into what gets made. They have to take orders and do their best to create whatever pack is in the pipeline. I think it would be good to stop blaming every little thing that's wrong with the game on the devs. They are just people, some of them longtime players themselves, who are trying to do their jobs.
I also think more allowance needs to be made for how long it takes to develop important features and complex objects. I personally think they have been working on ladders for a really long time, for instance. Last summer, it's likely that they had the animations partly done and thought it might be a good idea to give us ladders to go with docks, and even added a diving feature to it to customize it a bit more for water. Now ladders are finally completely done, and they are being added to the basegame, which means we don't have to pay for them again. Sure it would have been nice if they had been done a little sooner and could have been added in the free patch that came with Tiny Living. It's likely they just weren't ready yet. But at least those who waited to get that pack and anyone who buys it from now on, will be able to use ladders in their tiny builds.
Sims Community posted the developers' brainstorming list from the original theme vote back in April 2017 a few days ago, which I found very interesting. While we only got one element from that list in the first community-voted stuff pack, laundry, it's neat to look back and see how many elements from that original list we've gotten since, in packs like Seasons, Tiny Living, Island Living, and how many we are now getting in this pack. There's a few more from that list which we might still get in a farming pack down the road (like tapping sugar maple trees for sap, butter churns, chicken coops etc). These things just take time. Likewise, the recent gameplay surveys which included hints about improved relationships, better babies, etc will also take time.