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Gay couple with genetic baby?
Caelem
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I have a gay couple and I want them to have a baby that's related to them. I don't want to adopt or make the men pregnant themselves.. is there a way for my sims to have some sort of surrogacy and to not have the mother show up in the family tree, and for the two men to be seen as the parents?
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eta: corrected word (pregnancies, not babies!). Realized while doing so that you said you didn't want the men to go through pregnancy (
I've never tried it, but you might be able to use aging cheats to age the CAS-toddler down to a baby. MCCC has aging cheats built-in, but I've not tried aging down.
OP says they don't want to do that
Personally, I use the custom gender options to use Try For Baby, and story-wise simply told myself that Avery, the mom-dad, had been a trans man all along.
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I wish there was a way to make custom labels for relationships. It would be cool if you could have a gay couple decide they want to have a baby, then choose to have the baby with a woman as some gay couples do. Then you could edit the relationships to have both men marked as Dad. The. maybe have the woman marked as surrogate or birth mom, or just mom, depending on the game play.
Plus it’d be nice to mark characters as cousins or father-in-law. It bothers me when you have extended family living together, but they’re just labeled as “roommates”.
This would be a really cool feature to add later, since they’ve been updating CAS as it is. Maybe a mod could do this?
At this time, I have all my gay and lesbian couples “adopt” their kid. Usually I make the kid in CAS so it’s not an in-game adoption, but works for me.
It should work the same way for a Lesbian couple as well, but with a random man, if he accepts, again it is to the hospital for a few game hours with the one women getting pregnant who went with the man.
Well maybe not completely a random male/female, maybe a checkpoint in the friendship relationship status needs to pass, say "Liked" which is about 35% into that bar? In any event the random woman who gives birth or the guy who passes the gift of life, they have no relationship with the baby.
I'd also go about restricting some men and women and give them a trait "Same Gender Romance", meaning they will only date and marry people of the same gender to themselves. i'm sure there is a way to allow other parts of the LGTBQ movement to have a role in the game as well. I mean you wouldn't want to see a girl hitting on a guy who has no interest in her and so someone who knows less wouldn't understand that and attempt to get them to enjoy themselves. by putting down such a restriction, it adds an extra mechanic to some of the sim population on who they wish to be with, rather than forcing a pair that shouldn't be.
Also the restriction should be an option when children reach their teenage years on age up, if they wish to be exclusive to SGR or the usual way.
Or do the above but don't delete her. Have an alien or vampire wipe her memory. It sets the relationship bar to 0 and she will not contact them.
If you like to use MCC, there is an option to "forget sim" that does the same thing. Thats what I do.
I like MCC for that reason. Male pregnancies weird me out to no end, so my gay couples happily adopt or have surrogates. I also have it set so if a female sim is abducted she will possibly get pregnant, not males.
As someone who has actually lived these scenarios in various permutations, I can assure you that some women will hit on men they know to be gay. Some can be really persistent about it. And don't get me started on how some straight guys fetishize lesbianism.
Also, asking someone to participate in baby-making, even in a mere biological-donor role, is intensely personal. It should be an Awkward Conversation, at best, for anyone who is not already a Good Friend.
I am of two minds over a queer toggle in CAS. On the one hand, we the player choose our in-game interactions, and I very seldom see same-sex relationships emerge spontaneously from non-directed Sims. The subject is kind of fraught, wherever one is on the topic personally. I think Maxis has balanced options fairly well, as is.
Surrogacy is a tricky issue. I understand why Maxis might steer clear of it.
I don't have any problem with people getting into their own thing or who they fall in love with, everyone is entitled to find happiness. I'm just looking at it from a more practical point of view to avoid the issue that men themselves don't have the equipment to get pregnant and this game seems to encourage something nonsensical. As for the issue of a baby making machine? i can't really see it as a big issue to some women, that is why i mentioned if they accept to it. I'm not getting into the issue of feminism, but rather that if we are playing from a point of view a homosexual couple want children, the first stop is finding a suitable woman who could be a surrogate, that is one that is willing to get pregnant and then deliver the child and walk away.
I do agree that the conversation is going to be a delicate one, so a friendliness target will have to be reached first.
but then you also got programmes in the real world like 🐸🐸🐸🐸 banks and egg banks for women and men who wish to contribute without actually meeting and it allows those who are having trouble be able to have kids. It can be a very important thing for both men and women who dwell on their future to have a plan in the works for when the time comes.
All i'm offering right now are possibile alternatives.
Clinics that handle matters as you say are a thing, too. I wish in-game Hospitals were available to provide the service, at whatever cost.
eta: agreed, in TS4 I haven't seen this happen spontaneously--but I sure saw it in TS1!