So I've noticed there is a divide on the forums about what "Eco Living" means for people. So far I've noticed 3 different groups.
- Domestic and Laundry
- Natural and Outdoors
- Super high-tech
I've been curious to see which is most popular so I created a straw poll here where you can vote for your favourite theme:
https://strawpoll.com/5b376g4
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Edited to add that I voted for Nature and Outdoors.
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Why are they separate?
Whats wrong with natural, super high tech outdoors stuff?
Or high tech outdoors supernatural?
Until recently, eco friendly has really only been DIY, but in the last 20 years, more people are demanding eco friendly options, so now there are a lot of small companies making high tech looking versions of the old diy projects.
This is natural (it uses the power of the wind)
Super high tech (if you know how it works)
Outdoors (well, it wouldn't work too well inside, and where the heck is a building big enough for it?)
And then there's this:
Plants and fish are natural.
The system is... well to be honest, it's pretty basic tech, it just looks high tech.
And it brings the outdoors inside.
And for those who want laundry in the eco friendly pack, THIS is what you should be asking for!
EDIT:
I don't like your poll, I need to vote for BOTH natural/outdoors AND high tech
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I voted for high tech, but I also do like the living of the grid idea.
I don't think of domestic chores when I think about eco-living. Except maybe for companies trying to make their domestic appliances more green friendly. (but that's not really unique to them, most sectors do that)
This is absolutely perfect, I need this in my real life!!
Eco living. It's just a stuff pack and yet it could have had so much potential to raise awareness of contemporary enviromental problems and how to deal with them in a realistic way. I already buried my hopes for this to become an Eco living pack. Instead I predict that this pack will either become a hippie-hermits-rejecting-all-technology-electricity-society like a DLC for Granite Falls, a farming-and-country-life or laundry focused pack. Which are great but just not really Eco living.
The whole point of Eco living is to prevent enviromental disaster, preserve the earth and add Eco friendly and(!) practical/realistic alternatives to our contemporary lifestyles, isn't it?
At least that's what I was taught in high school. When I read Eco living, I was hoping for how-to-make-Eco-living-possible-for-everyone-in-an-overpopulated-and-globally-connected-world-without-giving-up-our-comfortable-lives. (Also this could have put Sims in a very positive spotlight and get much attention in the media and social networks like the Gender patch did.) An Eco living stuff pack could go so well with San Myshuno, don't you think? I would love to make San Myshuno more Eco friendly, even if it's just recycling.
It's just not possible for everyone to live off the grid and off the land. Imagining every citizen of the U.S. will start to live off the grid and self sufficient, giving up their conventional jobs tomorrow in an attempt to be Eco friendly. Now that's just impossible and I don't even want to think about what this would mean to the enviroment, society, economy, infrastructure, hospitals,... Only a few could afford and endure(!) such a off the grid lifestyle and they don't make any difference to the environment if everybody else in huge cities don't get Eco friendly alternatives matching their lifestyles.
Now I just hope this pack will be at least a laundry based one so that I can put functional washing machines in my game. Otherwise I'll probably skip this one if the art style doesn't fit my gameplay.
I still think farming and country life or off the grid/self sufficient could be an amazing game or expansion pack but not stuff pack. Well, Eco living could also have been a great game pack combining contemporary modern and self sufficient styles because it's such a broad topic. And this stuff pack just laundry focused having even better laundry gameplay than Sims 3.
I like laundry but I rather have an Eco friendly living stuff pack. Don't want a stuff pack too similar to outdoor retreat either. But this pack's content will depend on the votes of the sims players. Many want laundry. So laundry or off the grid it is. Still wishing for Eco living tho. Oh well.
I don't normally think of laundry in connection with Eco-living, but I can't pretend it didn't influence my vote, when it was mentioned under that theme in the survey. There is Eco-friendly laundry options for sure, they just aren't what I normally think of when discussing Eco-living. Maybe because energy saving appliances are standard where I live (and dryers are considered a guilt-inducing luxury, that are sparingly used).
I can see a few windmills through my window right now, which I do think of as Eco-living, yet I don't want them in my sims game at all (if we had neighbourhood decorations, then sure. But I don't want giant windmills on my lots... next to the giant telescopes).
My vote will be based on what I actually want to see in my game, no matter what they name a theme or a pack.
- I know that laundry, if implemented well, can be a great feature added to my game (it was in TS3). This would be a pack, I would most likely buy.
- I know that living of the land is likely to add more to a natural look, which I do love to use in this game. I can easily see myself buying this pack.
- With regards to high tech? This is the direction I have most doubts about at this point. It could be a pack I really want, but it could also be a pack I'd have no interest in. But in general, this is the area I feel the least need for in my game, as I feel it is an area the game will add plenty to anyway. And not always in a way I like (talking toilets?).
All in all, I buy stuff packs for the stuff in them. And I am most interested in packs that I will use on almost all my lots. This I can see happening with a laundry pack, a nature pack will probably be mostly useless for apartment lots, while a high tech pack seems the least useful depending on what items we actually would end up with (but solar panels and windmills are not something I would add to many of my lots, due to lack of space).
Finally, I haven't had time to keep up with this forum this last week, so all my opinions are likely to change depending on the great ideas people have posted. So to me, what I consider Eco-living isn't really that important. How fun the little added gameplay is and how versatile the items are, is way more important to me.
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I like the idea of laundry, but it's not for this SP, it wouldn't make any sense.
Also shower wohoo... you know sharing a shower and saving water lol
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