Two Day Sad Moodlet When Any NPC Sim Dies

Sha2520032003

I wanted to report, what I think may be some kind of bug or glitch. I created a thread in General Discussion to see if any other players were having the same issue I was. When a NPC dies, if your Sim knows the Sim (regardless of relationship type....acquaintance, friend, enemy, etc.) your Sim receives a notification message that the Sim died & then your Sim is hit with a 2-Day Sad moodlet. I didn't see this in the patch notes as new feature. I know Sims that are roommates can get sad moodlets and when pet rodents die.

I actually think it's a great idea for the notification if it only occurred for friends, family members, etc.....actual NPC Sims that our Sims have relationships with. But getting hit with a 2-day Sad moodlet when an acquaintance or enemy dies is a bit much. Can someone please help & see if this is some type of glitch? I've posted the link to the original thread I posted.

http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/16549764#Comment_16549764

rosemow

Hello
Is this occuring with the death of each NPC that passes away? It may be related to the changes to reaction to death that was made in the latest patch.
Also try testing without mods/cc to see if this still occurs with a NPC death.

Sha2520032003

@rosemow I wasn't playing with mods or CC in when I received the notifications. Yes, the notification occurs when a NPC passes away. I didn't see this in the patch notes. I saw if a NPC dies that's a roommate there would be moodlet & if a pet rodent dies, the Sims would react to their death.

I didn't see anything in the patch notes about Sims reacting to any NPC's death. Am I missing something? I don't really mind that Sims are reacting to NPC's death. My concern is the type of NPC. I don't want my Sims reacting to someone they didn't know or were enemies with. That just wouldn't make sense to me for them to be sad.

rosemow

Sha2520032003 wrote: »

@rosemow I wasn't playing with mods or CC in when I received the notifications. Yes, the notification occurs when a NPC passes away. I didn't see this in the patch notes. I saw if a NPC dies that's a roommate there would be moodlet & if a pet rodent dies, the Sims would react to their death.

I didn't see anything in the patch notes about Sims reacting to any NPC's death. Am I missing something? I don't really mind that Sims are reacting to NPC's death. My concern is the type of NPC. I don't want my Sims reacting to someone they didn't know or were enemies with. That just wouldn't make sense to me for them to be sad.

Hello
There wasn’t anything mentioned in the patch notes about Sims reacting to the death of a NPC. I just meant that with the changes in the game code with the death of room mates and rodents, it may have perhaps carried over to what occurred in your game.
There does seem to be an issue with the length of the mourning moolet that is occurring in your game if the sim doesn’t really know the NPC or they are enemies,

barraakeno

It was always like this for me. The moodlet says they are sad because they've seen someone dying, note because a friend died. When a friend die and they see it, they receive two moodlets.

Sha2520032003

@barraakeno I'm aware of how it works when a NPC dies in the vicinity of my Sim. My Sim gets hit with a sad moodlet for witnessing the death and then another one for mourning.

What I'm referring to is that my Sim is receiving a phone call notifying them that someone has died & a notification pops up. The NPC's that are dying aren't on my lot or anywhere in the vicinity. I've never had that happen in my game. Other Simmers are experiencing it too for the first time, so I think it's a new feature. I just wasn't sure if it was a bug or not, as it's any NPC Sim your Sim knows, at any relationship type....they get a phone call and a 2 day sad moodlet.

Sha2520032003

rosemow wrote: »

Sha2520032003 wrote: »

@rosemow I wasn't playing with mods or CC in when I received the notifications. Yes, the notification occurs when a NPC passes away. I didn't see this in the patch notes. I saw if a NPC dies that's a roommate there would be moodlet & if a pet rodent dies, the Sims would react to their death.

I didn't see anything in the patch notes about Sims reacting to any NPC's death. Am I missing something? I don't really mind that Sims are reacting to NPC's death. My concern is the type of NPC. I don't want my Sims reacting to someone they didn't know or were enemies with. That just wouldn't make sense to me for them to be sad.

Hello
There wasn’t anything mentioned in the patch notes about Sims reacting to the death of a NPC. I just meant that with the changes in the game code with the death of room mates and rodents, it may have perhaps carried over to what occurred in your game.
There does seem to be an issue with the length of the mourning moolet that is occurring in your game if the sim doesn’t really know the NPC or they are enemies,

Thanks @rosemow for the response. I just thought it was odd. In my older Saves my NPC's are started to die off so that's how I caught it.

rosemow

Sha2520032003 wrote: »

rosemow wrote: »

Sha2520032003 wrote: »

@rosemow I wasn't playing with mods or CC in when I received the notifications. Yes, the notification occurs when a NPC passes away. I didn't see this in the patch notes. I saw if a NPC dies that's a roommate there would be moodlet & if a pet rodent dies, the Sims would react to their death.

I didn't see anything in the patch notes about Sims reacting to any NPC's death. Am I missing something? I don't really mind that Sims are reacting to NPC's death. My concern is the type of NPC. I don't want my Sims reacting to someone they didn't know or were enemies with. That just wouldn't make sense to me for them to be sad.

Hello
There wasn’t anything mentioned in the patch notes about Sims reacting to the death of a NPC. I just meant that with the changes in the game code with the death of room mates and rodents, it may have perhaps carried over to what occurred in your game.
There does seem to be an issue with the length of the mourning moolet that is occurring in your game if the sim doesn’t really know the NPC or they are enemies,

Thanks @rosemow for the response. I just thought it was odd. In my older Saves my NPC's are started to die off so that's how I caught it.

You’re welcome .It doesn’t seem quite right what is happening in your game.

HowGreatThouArt

Yep, just had that happen today. An acquaintance died and my Sim received a phone call. I love the idea behind this, but I agree that they should restrict it to friends and family members. It's so easy to make acquaintances in game, and very hard to get rid of them, so I can see this being cumbersome after a while.

Variable

Same here. It seems a bit steep for people who are only known, not friends or family, especially for the span of two sim days.

FanPhoria

Variable wrote: »

Same here. It seems a bit steep for people who are only known, not friends or family, especially for the span of two sim days.

Totally agree. I LOVE this idea, and when it's a sim my sim actually cares about it's great. But it's frustrating that someone really close dying gets the same basic treatment as, "wait...who is that again?" There should only be notifications for family members and sims with strong relationships, and the reaction should be adjusted based on HOW strong it was too. A parent their super close too with a full relationship bar should be different than a work friend you get drinks with once in a while and are on friendly term with.

Megansleia

So I have had this happen a lot. I have had the mourning moodlet for sims they don't even know. I don't get it!!

mysterionz

barraakeno wrote: »

It was always like this for me. The moodlet says they are sad because they've seen someone dying, note because a friend died. When a friend die and they see it, they receive two moodlets.

Off topic but your signature made me laugh so hard

chrstal27

This has started happening in my game also. It doesn't just happen with NPC's but anyone my sim knows, friend or foe, and I find it extremely obnoxious. Most of my sims are walking around with 2 day sad moodlets more often than not, not just the ones I'm playing but sims walking down the street or invited over that know the same sim that died (or someone else?) are all mopey and bawling their eyes out all the time. I'm not sure why they thought this was a good idea, but I personally think they should be fired. I don't know why I keep coming back to this game...I hope they get rid of it or someone makes a mod. As it is, I consider it almost unplayable.

Marste

Same here. It's super annoying. I have noticed that they get sad over friends before, but I've never noticed they get sad over just acquaintances dying (literally just said hi to them once).
The quickfix I came up with is giving myself 500 satisfaction points with a cheat (testingcheats on + sims.give_satisfaction_points 500) and buying a Moodlet Solver in Rewards Store. But this is one time use only, and you have to keep doing it when you're getting new phone calls. And it shouldn't be necessary to cheat like that to play the game.

I hope EA fixes it soon or that someone comes up with a permanent fix.

rosemow

Perhaps simmers who are having this issue may like to start a new thread on the AHQ EA site and post feedback on the issue there also. Other simmers can also post feedback /press me too,
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/The-Sims-4-Bugs

LameBabe

Has anyone seen improvements w/ this issue since the latest patch?
Almost every night, my sims still get a call about someone they barely know.. it's been frustrating and has really affected gameplay ):

I don't have any mods in my game, so neighbourhoods stay pretty stagnant until they all pass away from old age. It would be great to have more variety in NPCs; that way I don't think there would be nearly as many old age deaths in a row

rosemow

Hello
For simmers who are having this issue, you may like to post feedback on this AHQ EA thread
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Sim-gets-quot-phone-call-quot-amp-notice-about-another-sims/m-p/6891985#M65892

ash8nine

I've noticed this too! My Sim bought a pet shop and serves a bunch of different NPCs and their pets. Every time one of them passes away, my sim is sad. She has basically been sad for her entire young adult/adult life. She comes home from work and cries in bed all evening. I love the idea of getting notified about a sim passing away if they are close friends/family, but this has been extreme and makes the game a lot less fun. :(

rosemow

ash8nine wrote: »

I've noticed this too! My Sim bought a pet shop and serves a bunch of different NPCs and their pets. Every time one of them passes away, my sim is sad. She has basically been sad for her entire young adult/adult life. She comes home from work and cries in bed all evening. I love the idea of getting notified about a sim passing away if they are close friends/family, but this has been extreme and makes the game a lot less fun.

Hello
I am sorry that sim is continually sad
It would be good to post feedback or press “ me too” on the AHQ EA thread about the issue.

Minai

You know whats really annoying. They've mourned for days with the passing of NPC sims but not their grandmother...

rosemow

Minai wrote: »

You know whats really annoying. They've mourned for days with the passing of NPC sims but not their grandmother...

Hello
You may like to press “ me too” and/or post feedback on the AHQ EA thread about the issue
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Sim-gets-quot-phone-call-quot-amp-notice-about-another-sims/m-p/6891985#M65892