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Sexism toward pregnant sims

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  • zanysazyzanysazy Posts: 2,210 New Member
    edited July 2009
    OMG your one of those people... JUST SHUSH its a game
  • commeuneplumecommeuneplume Posts: 1,494 Member
    edited July 2009
    xxgreeboxx wrote:
    I agree, women in the game shouldn't be forced to take maternity leave. An ambitious workaholic who dislikes children would not want to wait until the baby was a toddler to return to work. Maternity leave is fine, but forcing it is one of my least favourite things about the game.

    WTH are sims who "dislike children" HAVING BABIES?!?!?
    Avid TS3/TS4 player, wannabe storyteller, novice builder.
    Looking forward to seeing you around!
  • Panther00567Panther00567 Posts: 2,704 New Member
    edited July 2009
    Daehloena wrote:
    Sure the game gives a choice. Change careers and become a housewife. That's obviously an equally important occupation, and means you can spend time with your kids to boot.

    It's win/win.

    I agree. Actually in the Sims being a housewife is alot better because you can actually see your sim and contorl them while taking care of the kids, while the husband runs off to some rabbit hole doing mundane stuff like filing reports and sitting in a cubicle for hours and hours and hours...

    And, as a bonus, if you have a housewife sim they can also paint or write novels to add more income. Or you can bring your kids out to the park and socialize or something.
  • SamerinaSamerina Posts: 44 New Member
    edited July 2009
    Here's what would be sexist: after the mother has the child, she can't have a job anymore. She has to stay and clean, cook, raise the kid, and woohoo with her husband every night and morning.

    How is it sexist to let a mother rest for a few days after all that strain of labor? They have integrated more reality into the game, and there is just another slice of it. Unless the labor was a piece of cake, which is very rare, how could someone go back to regular life the day after something so difficult?

  • Shayne_CarlosShayne_Carlos Posts: 3 New Member
    edited July 2009
    If the dad adopts a baby then he gets the baby work leave also..well at least my guy did lol..
  • JediLizJediLiz Posts: 40 New Member
    edited July 2009
    Unless you have those special advantages purchased like hardly hungry, steel bladder and dirt defiant, pregnant sims get tired a lot faster. Some jobs can be very stressful. The pregnant sim needs a few days to prepare for the birth of her sim child. I am glad MY sims get a few days off. They can relax, read a pregnancy book, increase their skills, etc. Hey, at least they can go shopping! In Sims 2, they weren't allowed to go to the community lots.

    And I'd rather my female sims or their husbands, stay home and care for the baby/toddler than trust the lazy babysitter. You have to work on the relationship with your children or you'll end up being distant friends.

  • SuceressSuceress Posts: 1,679 Member
    edited July 2009
    Daehloena wrote:
    Sure the game gives a choice. Change careers and become a housewife. That's obviously an equally important occupation, and means you can spend time with your kids to boot.

    It's win/win.

    Is there an option for the husband sim to stay home and be a househusband? Or is this all theoretical?
  • scongersscongers Posts: 6 New Member
    edited July 2009
    PaganRiver wrote:
    Menen wrote:
    Normaly, a Pregnate mom stays home Before and after she has a child to care to it.

    They wanted it to be more realalistic.

    What mother would have a child, then go to work full time? Never having time to play or take care of it. Loosing all those precous baby moments.

    I'm not about to get in to a "what sort of a mother would not stay home?" debate. That's not only insulting to women, it's totally beside the point.

    What I'm saying is the game doesn't even give the mom a choice. Here in the Western world's real life plenty of women go right back to work, whether it's because they want to or because they have to. By not giving mom a choice, the game handicaps women. Why bother to give them non-family goals at all, then?

    The equivalent, again in real life, would be the law FORCING a woman to stay home from work until after her baby had become a toddler, or even a child sometimes, depending on the woman's work schedule.
    It is NOT insulting to women. women take time after having a baby EVEN if they have a nanny to take care of the child . IT TAKES TIME TO RECOVER AFTER CHILDBIRTH!!!!!!!
    This is a game relax and enjoy
  • adikted2sims19adikted2sims19 Posts: 27 New Member
    edited July 2009
    Not really important, I think the fact that they stay home and can do things and get paid rather than go to work for 8 hours isn't so annoying. Hey if you don't like it don't get your sims pregnant, simple as that. You can just adopt...
  • scrubs747scrubs747 Posts: 6 New Member
    edited July 2009
    I would love to have the choice, but I don't have any problem with the maternity leave as it is now. If you think about it, your sim (or at least mine) needs those days off to get back on a normal sleeping cycle.
  • Tenshi3Tenshi3 Posts: 2,653 New Member
    edited July 2009
    Yes, this is blatantly sexist, how dare EA not allow for men to have the babies instead :roll:
  • theRealDeal09theRealDeal09 Posts: 4,549 Member
    edited July 2009
    The mother needs time to heal! Let her rest! And if you want top-notch "realism" its waiting for you outside your doorstep.
  • simdosimdo Posts: 393 New Member
    edited July 2009
    Menen wrote:
    Normaly, a Pregnate mom stays home Before and after she has a child to care to it.

    They wanted it to be more realalistic.

    What mother would have a child, then go to work full time? Never having time to play or take care of it. Loosing all those precous baby moments.
    I agree with Menen. Women who are expecting, and just became new moms do get time off from work, in reallife. It's called maternity leave. My female sim just recently became a new mother, and I don't mind if she stays at home. If money is still a big concern for your sim family. Then have one stay at home, and write books, and take of the little one. It works for my sim family. I mean my young adult sim earns over 30,000 a week in book royalties alone. And she doesn't even to perform a concert, which is what she does as a job. So there's no real big stinker here :!: :D
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  • br00kbr00k Posts: 8 New Member
    edited August 2009
    I too, wish the game had some more options.

    In real life, my dad stayed at home, and he was GREAT at it! He made cabinets out of our garage and watched my brother and I. We have something pretty special because of the time that he spent at home with me, and my mom got work on her career.

    It seems pretty narrow of EA to not allow fathers to take on those parenting duties, or allow recent mothers to get back into the workforce.
  • queenmoon555queenmoon555 Posts: 178 New Member
    edited August 2009
    Tenshi3 wrote:
    Yes, this is blatantly sexist, how dare EA not allow for men to have the babies instead :roll:
    Lol with a mod you can
  • ToppenzapToppenzap Posts: 773 New Member
    edited August 2009
    I don't mind it that much, but adding in the option to go (So the Mothers aren't required to go to work, but can do so if they wish) to work would be the best bet, that way it's flexible for those who need to go to work to get promotions to get money.
  • SnackySnacky Posts: 607 New Member
    edited August 2009
    PaganRiver wrote:
    Okay, look. Over the course of the Sims 2, they managed to gradually fix it so pregnant sims could actually go places, etc. They were also allowed to look for jobs, finally.

    Now I discover in the new game that though pregnant sims can go anywhere they like, they cannot go to work for several days either before or AFTER the baby is born!! Come ON! I have a family with an unemployed relative who can take good care of the baby while mom tries to continue her career, but it won't let her go to work.

    The end result -- the game is rigged so that it takes female sims sometimes MUCH longer to reach their career goals, if they do at all.

    Seems blatantly sexist to me, even worse than TS2. At least the mom could go back to work -- she had the choice. Now she's not even given the CHOICE!

    :x :x :x :x

    Typical feminist who doesn't realize that women have it better, and have more rights than men.
  • mynameisjimbobmynameisjimbob Posts: 911 New Member
    edited August 2009
    Tenshi3 wrote:
    You sound like one of those feminists who thinks that the ***** should be removed 8)

    Feminists DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST MEN! We just think that it is unfair to have to be a stereotypical housewife. Why can't men stay at home? huh?

    Plus, having to stay at home is so annoying in a female hier legacy!
  • SnackySnacky Posts: 607 New Member
    edited August 2009
    Tenshi3 wrote:
    You sound like one of those feminists who thinks that the ***** should be removed 8)

    Feminists DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST MEN! We just think that it is unfair to have to be a stereotypical housewife. Why can't men stay at home? huh?

    Plus, having to stay at home is so annoying in a female hier legacy!

    YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA HOW IMPORTANT THE ROLE OF HOMEMAKER IS! It is more important than your little Easy-bake head will ever understand. A Woman's role in a family is a Mother and Housewife, and if You don't like it, you don't gave to get married! You have the pot-endused 1970's idea That women don't have to have responsibilities. Go to Japan and you'll see how important Homemaker is!
  • br00kbr00k Posts: 8 New Member
    edited August 2009
    Tenshi3 wrote:
    YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA HOW IMPORTANT THE ROLE OF HOMEMAKER IS! It is more important than your little Easy-bake head will ever understand. A Woman's role in a family is a Mother and Housewife, and if You don't like it, you don't gave to get married! You have the pot-endused 1970's idea That women don't have to have responsibilities. Go to Japan and you'll see how important Homemaker is!

    I think the homemaker is a very valuable role. Just think how nice and smooth having a stay at home parent in the Sims 3 makes game play (or for that matter, how wonderful that must be for those who can do it in real life)! I just don't think that male sims should have to miss out on this very valuable, very important role. We should be able to decide if it will be a father or a mother that stays at home with the kids!

    My suggestion to EA would be to have a pop-up after birth that gives the option of maternity or paternity leave.
  • debra1970pdebra1970p Posts: 4,652 Member
    edited August 2009
    br00k wrote:
    My suggestion to EA would be to have a pop-up after birth that gives the option of maternity or paternity leave.

    I like this idea. In some of my sim families, the father has a stay at home job, so it would be more practical for the father to take care of the baby during the first few days of infancy and toddlerhood.
  • mynameisjimbobmynameisjimbob Posts: 911 New Member
    edited August 2009
    Snacky wrote:
    Tenshi3 wrote:
    You sound like one of those feminists who thinks that the ***** should be removed 8)

    Feminists DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST MEN! We just think that it is unfair to have to be a stereotypical housewife. Why can't men stay at home? huh?

    Plus, having to stay at home is so annoying in a female hier legacy!

    YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA HOW IMPORTANT THE ROLE OF HOMEMAKER IS! It is more important than your little Easy-bake head will ever understand. A Woman's role in a family is a Mother and Housewife, and if You don't like it, you don't gave to get married! You have the pot-endused 1970's idea That women don't have to have responsibilities. Go to Japan and you'll see how important Homemaker is!


    Oh, so it's wrong to have any ambition? Well I am 12 OK? I want to be a surgeon, but you sexists obviously think there is something wrong with that?
    btw, don't act like i'm stupid because I am 12, because I have just got a scholarship, so i'm NOT STUPID! or easy bake or pot induced......
  • mynameisjimbobmynameisjimbob Posts: 911 New Member
    edited August 2009
    count to 10.....whew
  • Hawkflight1066Hawkflight1066 Posts: 245 Member
    edited August 2009
    Well now, let me see. I only played Sims 1 before this - and there the baby arrived instantly after the "shall we have a baby" question, and no one got any leave at all. Raising a baby in Sims 1 was exhausting. Each parent had to take one day off to care for the baby, then go to work - if they'd got enough sleep, and then the other parent took a day off. Take more than one day off and you got the boot from the job. And while at home caring for the baby the parent had to fit in eating, sleeping, keeping happy and entertained between feeds, playing and changing. The needs dropped pretty quickly in TS1. There was no pay for the adult taking the day off to care for the child. And kids in TS1 couldn't cook meals unless you'd got a hacked fridge and stove from a fansite, so the parents had to do all the cooking as well as care for the baby. And getting promotions in TS1 was achieved not merely by study but by having increasing numbers of friends, which required hard work to make and keep. Raising a child usually lost you lots of friends from lack of socialising and put back the career progress of every adult in the household. TS3 is a definite improvement on that.

    I usually didn't bother with kids in TS1 unless there was a third adult in the household to share the baby raising.

    In real life I believe being a mother really can mess with your career prospects. So in that respect TS3 is not unrealistic. At least the parents in TS3 don't have to miss work to care for sick children, or find a school holiday carer for them.

    I agree though - a choice would be nice.
  • PandaFaust21PandaFaust21 Posts: 337 New Member
    edited August 2009
    I guess there is a good argument for "sexism" in the Sims 3 because men could be pregnant in the Sims 2. I think in the sims 2 you can tell them to go to work on the first day she is pregnant.

    The funniest thing to happen in the sims 2 was the bride was pregnant walking down the aisle. Honeymoon time came and she said she was too pregnant to go on a honeymoon. That didn't stop the husband from going. :twisted:

    Then again, do Sims really need to go to work to "work?" I just have mine write novels in the meantime between workdays. Isn't it better to pull in half a million from writing novels in a week than getting $1,000 per day working? I admit the hours are awful but not impossible.
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