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amakachao
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I get this weird thing where the time keeps going but sims cancel their actions, instantaneously appear in places where they weren't and/or are in the middle of an animation as SIM TIME goes by. This is happening in Riverview.
Example, mother is painting, son is painting, daughter is playing chess with a friend, I send the father to do his criminal opportunity. Father gets to the place but his actions cancel out, son is stuck with his brush in mid air, mother appears on front lawn, daughter is sitting still in the chair for the chess table but not playing it. SIM TIME STILL PASSES. I double click the father's portrait to see him, but I can't. The son's portrait remains highlighted at the same time as the father's.
SOMETIMES it happens like this: Mother is visiting a house on the other side of town, son is on the phone at home, daughter is baking with kid's oven at home, father is inviting in guests at home. I line up some interactions with the sims at home and I right click the mother to zoom in on her. Now she is completely invisible. I can click on a chair and tell her to sit and she does, the doors open, the footsteps make sounds, the chair moves, she is sitting, but she is COMPLETELY invisible. SIM TIME passes like nothing is happening.
OR.
I send the mother to the consignment store and click "Buy" on the register, the salesman's portrait shows up, SIM TIME passes, the interaction is automatically canceled because the salesman is INVISIBLE.
I'm not doing anything Late Night related, I just put in some decoration items, curved my pool and bought a fountain object (I didn't build it). I'm in Riverview trying to do base game stuff here.
I mean really.....
I played the game before the patch, none of this happened. I played the game briefly after the patch, didn't notice it. I install Late Night, now SIM TIME is passing me by.
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Example, mother is painting, son is painting, daughter is playing chess with a friend, I send the father to do his criminal opportunity. Father gets to the place but his actions cancel out, son is stuck with his brush in mid air, mother appears on front lawn, daughter is sitting still in the chair for the chess table but not playing it. SIM TIME STILL PASSES. I double click the father's portrait to see him, but I can't. The son's portrait remains highlighted at the same time as the father's.
SOMETIMES it happens like this: Mother is visiting a house on the other side of town, son is on the phone at home, daughter is baking with kid's oven at home, father is inviting in guests at home. I line up some interactions with the sims at home and I right click the mother to zoom in on her. Now she is completely invisible. I can click on a chair and tell her to sit and she does, the doors open, the footsteps make sounds, the chair moves, she is sitting, but she is COMPLETELY invisible. SIM TIME passes like nothing is happening.
OR.
I send the mother to the consignment store and click "Buy" on the register, the salesman's portrait shows up, SIM TIME passes, the interaction is automatically canceled because the salesman is INVISIBLE.
I'm not doing anything Late Night related, I just put in some decoration items, curved my pool and bought a fountain object (I didn't build it). I'm in Riverview trying to do base game stuff here.
I mean really.....
I played the game before the patch, none of this happened. I played the game briefly after the patch, didn't notice it. I install Late Night, now SIM TIME is passing me by.
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One sim is building a skill, the other 3 sims in the household are doing other things. When the sim gets the skill up to the next level, he becomes invisible and teleports to the front yard. 2 sims are stuck in an animation and cannot complete any task I set them to do (sit somewhere or paint or walk somewhere). The fourth sim of the household also became invisible and teleported to the kitchen, and went about doing freewill actions completely invisible (cleaning a counter, putting a dish in the dishwasher, going to sleep).
I have video that I will upload that shows how the sim who skilled up disappears.
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Try disabling 2.0 shaders and see if your game lags less. I have a feeling that the water they added is way over detailed. I used to play with 2.0 shaders before Late Night and I ran smoothly, no glitches AT ALL that has to do with base game (I've had one WA glitch this entire time- not coming home from vacation). I had my reflects all off and, 1 high detail lot, lowest draw distance, lowest trees, all the other options were 1 to 2 levels lower than the default settings. Yesterday after I installed Late Night it was like walking through quicksand. I turned off my shaders and the improvement was immediate. After I restarted the game (it is recommended to restart the game if you change your graphics options) it was running much better still. It is not up to par with how well it ran before Late Night, but it is an improvement.
My specs:
OSX 10.6.4 updated yesterday
2.66 GHz Intel Core i5
4gb, 1067 MHz DDR3
ATI Radeon HD 4850, 512 mb graphics card
I run Team Fortress 2 and L4D2 very well on packed servers...
I have no mods, but I do have cc.
This did not happen before the Oct 26 patch or before I installed Late Night. This is completely new since those last two things.
This is repeatable for me. Whenever a skill is being built other sims in the household disappear, become stuck in an animation, teleport to a random place on the lot, etc.
I don't think I've spent $50 to be frustrated before. But I guess I can count it as a learning experience.
First let me repost my specs.
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OSX 10.6.4 updated yesterday
2.66 GHz Intel Core i5
4gb, 1067 MHz DDR3
ATI Radeon HD 4850, 512 mb graphics card
I run Team Fortress 2 and L4D2 very well on packed servers...
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as you can see, I don't have the DEP thing that might be the problem for everyone else.
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Today I saved my Documents/Electronic Arts/Sims 3 folder in a separate drive, then I deleted it from my computer. (I do not have partitions or anything like that).
__ I uninstalled EVERYTHING.
__ I restarted my computer.
__ I installed The Sims 3 base game. I did NOT let it update.
__ I installed World Adventures. I did NOT let it update. I set the options to 1 or 2 levels below the defaults, I turned off 2.0 shaders, I have minimum draw distance, 1 high detailed lot, medium special effects, lowest reflections, you get the idea. The only thing I have high is textures and sim detail.
I created a family in Sunset Valley from the default group that comes with the game, the first couple in the list. I moved them into a starter home. I built them a pool. I sat them both down to read Charisma 1. I saved right before the wife skills up. Then I allowed her to skill up, everything happened as expected. I quit without saving.
__ I installed Ambitions. I did NOT let it update. I went back to the saved couple in Sunset Valley and allowed the wife to skill up again. Everything happened as expected. I quit without saving.
__ I installed Late Night. It did not ask me to update. I made sure I changed the new option menu to be lowest on reflections (none). I went one resolution down from my screen default (but the same ratio). As before everything was low, special effects on medium, sims detail and textures on high. I restarted the game. I went back to the saved couple in Sunset Valley and allowed the wife to skill up. This time I received the glitch. In this instance the husband cleared his action queue, the wife had the "arms through the body at weird angles" glitch that I have NEVER received before since the Sims3 came out. I sent her to swim, she went and swam with her arms through her body. I quit without saving.
I started the game. I set up a NEW GAME with the same couple in the same house in Sunset Valley. I built them a pool. I saved. I had them both read Charisma 1. Some sims came over to say hi, I asked the to leave with the husband. I sent him to read Charisma 1 again. I saved right before the wife skilled up. I let her skill up. She did, and nothing strange happened. Nothing. She went right on reading, the husband did not cancel his queue. I made her stop and go for a swim. She did everything normally. I guess she took her time getting out of the chair but it wasn't that annoying.
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CONCLUSION.
Late Night expansion pack messes up previous games. End of story. It is not my computer specs, it is not mods or cc, it is not store content or exchange content. END OF STORY. Late Night expansion cd by itself is the problem.
I paid $50 for this. :x
I want to play the family I created last month. It's not even like I'm trying to play the sims I created a year ago. Just last month. I need a warning before I purchase something that it is not backwards compatible with my previously saved files.
I wonder if it has anything to do with regions.
Hopefully your problem gets resolved soon.
EA better have a patch for this soon.
I realize that it is tl;dr but I did type in caps that I did NOT patch the game after I reinstalled Ambitions. It asked if I'd like to patch and I said no. So THEN I installed Late Night. WITHOUT THE LATE NIGHT PATCH.
After I installed Late Night, it DID NOT ask me to patch. HENCE, it is not the patch.
Did you see the post where I outlined that I reinstalled from scratch?
Please suggest to me what I did wrong or where it is my fault.
I'm looking for human error and I don't see one.
EDIT: Also, I said in my very long post where I reinstalled that playing a BRAND NEW FAMILY is not the problem. Playing an OLD family is the problem. BRAND NEW FAMILY is okay. OLD FAMILY is not.
I said if I had known that it would make my OLD families unplayable, I would not have bought it, or I would have at least waited for it to go down in price (so almost a year later).
OLD families are glitched, families saved before Late Night.
NEW families are fine for me, families created after Late Night.
Maybe thousands of simmers play with new families each time an EP comes out. Maybe they play the new family for a month or two before going back to their old families. Maybe they will patch this before the rest of the sim community realizes their legacies are borked.
Maybe I got a defective CD, and AnaQ is right, it has to do with distribution regions.
I don't know what it is, but this is not cool.
The only problem is that my PC is very weak as compared to my Mac, as far as processing power and graphics power goes, that is the reason why I installed the game on my Mac in the first place, but I can put it back on my PC to prove that the product is defective.
In fact I don't have to, but I will. Take a gander at this thread where two people with the same problem, one on a PC, and one on a Mac.
http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/284751.page
You must be blind because the OP obviously has an issue. Heck she even provided video. I think you were rude. :roll:
@amakachao,
I've never seen that before so you definitely have an issue. I would have no clue how to duplicate the issue to even test it. I don't know what to tell you except I'm sorry your game isn't working correctly. I wish I could help you.
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thank you. I'm going to do more testing. And maybe I can isolate and get glitches to repeat reliably.
This is the first time I've been unhappy with this product.
I hope I find a fix, even if I have to do a happy-magic-voodoo-dance or something lol
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I'm in full support of your thread. I'm having the exact same issues (mainly the stuttering and freezing).
I did a full purging of everyting EA on this PC. This PC is a monster gaming rig far above the recomended specs.
I event went as far as clearing the Registry of any keys to Sims 3, EA, or EADM.
-after reinstalling the base game and HELS, Amb, LN, the two sim families I brought to Bridgeport have their hygiene, energy, and bladder stuck on full. Resetsim fixed Hygiene and energy, but bladder is still stuck.
Anyhow, if you install Late Night you -will- get patched. Late Night brings your game to the current version 1.17.60.009 which everyone else has.
-Although you uninstalled Custom Content that may corrupt your game, if a family had the content and they are imported (using the bin) into Bridgeport it seems that they retain what ever data was corrupted. Of course the solution being deleting the family completey and just starting a new one.
I'm willing to wager that a lot of the people not having issues are folks who started new sims from scratch when they started with Late Night.
buy a better computer. :?
Ive found while playing Bridgeport the place of evil lagging spoiling the game town that if you go on a jolly hol.... It works fine... no lagging sim behaves as they should...
If it was my pc rather than the game then why does that happen? Oh yer that be the game is full of bugs!!
GGrrrr come on EA sort this.
I am interested in the results of the PC install though. I'm not convinced CC is the source of some data corruption on sims either. Some data corruption seems to occur even without CC, particularly in WA.
As for the comment about the % of actual players on the forums. The implication as I read it (intended or otherwise) is that a very small % of folks have actual problems but I would point out that not everyone that has problems come here. It might be true that a lot of players come here because of bugs or percieved bugs (ie mod conflicts, lousy CC) so the % of players with problems may not be proportional to the total TS3 playerbase experiencing issues. However, that doesn't mean it's such a small % of players with problems either.
I've seen a lot of bugs in the game myself but I only first came here through a google search looking for a solution to a WA bug that apparently STILL does not exist and a lot of other people go to other forums they trust for help.
She listed her specs and even posted them twice. :?
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