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  • EmmaVaneEmmaVane Posts: 7,847 Member
    edited March 2023
    @CeanaOfTheCrags
    I find in addition that clothing dislikes are difficult because it ruins your sims day but it's sometimes necessary, like for work.

    You can modify your work uniform using the "sims.modify_career_outfit_in_cas" cheat while the sim is selected.

    It shows as "Everyday 1" but is actually the work situation outfit when you go into CAS. Just edit this outfit to whatever fits your sim's style and the job. You have to repeat this with every promotion/demotion that changes the uniform though.

    Or you can choose to live with it if it suits the character to hate wearing a uniform.
  • bandit5bandit5 Posts: 918 Member
    the toilet sniffer insult about toddlers was funny.
  • JustinB113JustinB113 Posts: 1,050 Member
    edited March 2023
    Oh that’s interesting that growing together infants start worse than basegame infants and you have to get the milestones to bring them to base game level. I just assumed basegame infants would be the less developed ones.

    But if you have an infant before growing together then it misses out on the development because it’s already good?

    I’m probably won’t touch basegame infant and wait 2 days. Maybe a little try in another save.
  • SweetBexiSweetBexi Posts: 147 Member
    JustinB113 wrote: »
    Oh that’s interesting that growing together infants start worse than basegame infants and you have to get the milestones to bring them to base game level. I just assumed basegame infants would be the less developed ones.

    But if you have an infant before growing together then it misses out on the development because it’s already good?

    I’m probably won’t touch basegame infant and wait 2 days. Maybe a little try in another save.

    I'm so glad I've seen this. I've been really excited about the infants but like you, I'm now going to have to wait those 2 extra days to not spoil it for myself 🤣
  • catloverplayercatloverplayer Posts: 93,387 Member
    I was wrong about milestones coming to the base game. Their specific to Growing Together.
  • LeGardePourpreLeGardePourpre Posts: 15,215 Member
    edited March 2023
    Infant Update ... The first thing, I see the Family Tree UI is visually broken.

    The grandfather must guess who are the parents of his grandchildren :p

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  • LeGardePourpreLeGardePourpre Posts: 15,215 Member
    edited March 2023
    Sadly we can't use several birthmarks like this :/

    Edit : Same thing about Left/Right hips, arms and shoulders, both sides is forbidden.

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  • cody6268cody6268 Posts: 643 Member
    Holy smurf, 3.1 Gigabytes!

    My C: drive is filling up pretty quickly due to The Sims and a couple of other hardware-intensive games; despite my settings in Steam saying all games that went there

    I cleaned it up, removing a TON of games (particularly visual novels and other short games) that I'd played once or twice and then never again. I noticed one (AimLab) was a whopping 15GB; with most of the VNs running 4-5 gigs each. That space runs into a lot once it's added up.
  • simgirl1010simgirl1010 Posts: 35,810 Member
    @LeGardePourpre did you check if this has been reported on Answers Headquarters?
  • LeGardePourpreLeGardePourpre Posts: 15,215 Member
    @LeGardePourpre did you check if this has been reported on Answers Headquarters?

    I didn't do it because it's a minor issue.
  • ncisGibbs02ncisGibbs02 Posts: 2,019 Member
    edited March 2023
    cody6268 wrote: »
    Holy smurf, 3.1 Gigabytes!

    My C: drive is filling up pretty quickly due to The Sims and a couple of other hardware-intensive games; despite my settings in Steam saying all games that went there

    I cleaned it up, removing a TON of games (particularly visual novels and other short games) that I'd played once or twice and then never again. I noticed one (AimLab) was a whopping 15GB; with most of the VNs running 4-5 gigs each. That space runs into a lot once it's added up.

    This is why additions to any game need to be optional.

    3.1 GB is huge 😫😭.

    I’m only going to say one thing and I’m leaving the subject behind;

    I’m happy for players who wanted infants.

    All I I want is a choice. I am not interested in them and I can’t be the only one. There could’ve been a different bassinet. Free to download and having the object enables the new life stage. If you don’t download it the game continues as is.

    TS2 University only allows young adults.
    TS2 Nightlife allows the Pleasure Aspiration. It’s greyed out in later packs if you don’t own Nightlife.
    TS3 Supernatural is needed for most occults.
    TS3 Island Paradise is needed for resorts.
    TS3 is needed for proms.
    TS4 Get Together is needed for setting clubs.

    So it’s possible to set something as a trigger for an addition including a new life stage. TS3 had free stuff in the store, you can choose to have it.

    For now I’ll play Sims 4 offline until I can’t, then I’ll see.

    Post edited by ncisGibbs02 on
    Now alternating between Sims 2,3 and 4! 😊☕️🌞
  • catloverplayercatloverplayer Posts: 93,387 Member
    The Sims 4
    The Sims 4: NEW UPDATE! (March 14th, 2023)
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    March 14, 2023by Jovan13 min read
    ts4 infants update patch notes
    The Infants Update for The Sims 4 is HERE! Check out the Patch Notes.
    Sims 4 Logo
    The Infants Update
    Electronic Arts and Maxis have just released a new Update for The Sims 4 Base Game. Yes, we’re talking about the Infants Update!

    The latest Patch features the newest, youngest life stage to The Sims 4 called Infants. You’ll be able to customize them in Create A Sim, give them 6 new Traits and watch as chaos unfolds in Live Mode. There’s also a new set of Infant Objects in Build Mode, as well as other additions including Science Babies and Pie Menu Updates.

    How to install The Sims 4 Infants Update
    You can download the latest version of The Sims 4 by checking for updates through the EA App and Origin. If you have Automatic Updates enabled the update will automatically download through your client program.

    If you play The Sims 4 on Xbox Series or PS4 / PS5, you can request a new update by checking for updates under The Sims 4 game tag.

    In case you have Mods or Custom Content, the game will automatically disable them for you after first launching The Sims 4 after the update. To re-enable all your Mods and Custom Content, select the Settings option in the Menu and select Settings. Under the ”Other” section you’ll find the ”Enable Custom Content and Mods” option. Check it and restart your game in order for it to take effect!

    The Sims 4: NEW UPDATE! (Aug 30th, 2022)
    Sims 4 Infants Update – Patch Notes
    Console: 1.71
    PC: 1.96.365.1030 / Mac: 1.96.365.1230

    Sul Sul, Simmers!

    Today is an exciting day; we’ve heard you, and it’s time to free the infants! Learn about what’s new in the Base Game, what you can expect from Growing Together, and some issues the team has dealt with.

    What’s New
    Infants are now in the game! With the free base game update, you’ll now be able to interact with your young Sims earlier than before and set them up for a lifetime of excitement. Once your family’s newborns age up into Infants (or if you decide to go the adoption route), they’ll have their own needs, emotions, and sentiments about their caretakers.

    If your Sim doesn’t want to adopt or want to (or can’t) go through a pregnancy, they now have a brand new option. Sims can have babies with the power of science! They can now ask others to use a mix of their genetic material to create new life or just do it themselves…as long as they’ve got the funds.

    Sims will spend less time as Newborns. This life stage will last only a few days before they age up into Infants. That doesn’t mean they haven’t gotten new stuff too! From the very beginning, Newborns are going to seem like more of the family with the addition of the range of skin tones other Sims have. They also will have the eye color they’ll have for life. There are some other changes to their appearance and movements that will really help Newborns feel like an active members of the household. Caregivers will no longer put them back into a bassinet between reactions, making caring for a Newborn feel more natural than before. Plus! Toddlers and Children will be able to interact with new family members by doing things like entertaining a Newborn in a bassinet with child-like behavior.

    New Stuff!
    With a new life stage comes new looks! Infants have their own clothing, hairstyles, accessories, and most excitingly: personality traits. Find these new options in Create a Sim! There is also the addition of new furniture, decor, toys, and more to help make those Infants feel at home and truly part of the family. You can find these new items in the kids’ section in Build mode.

    Once an Infant is crawling, they’re ready to go exploring. Keep them where they belong with the new baby-proofing option for doors. Sims can get kept out with door permissions, and now, Infants and Toddlers can get kept in.

    Misc Additions
    Child skills have gotten a few adjustments. Sims will gain some skills quicker now, and the things they learn as Children will now matter as they grow. Plus: UI Improvements!

    Don’t worry, there’s new stuff for your older Sims too. With this new update, there are new skin details in Create a Sim for Sims of all ages. Your Sims can now have birthmarks from birth. As they age, they can have stretch marks and C-Section scars.

    Sims 4 Infants Update
    Sims 4 Update - Body Scars
    Sims 4 Body Scars Update
    CAS has another great new feature: you can now decide whether or not a Sim can produce milk. This new option can be found in the Gender section of the More Details menu.

    With more ways for Sims to interact than ever before, it was getting a little overwhelming to try and find what you want to tell your Sim to do. The good news is that Interactions have been reorganized! The Interactions menu now has new sections based on the type. If you want your Sim to ask another Sim to have a science baby, for example, that’s a Deep Thoughts kind of conversation. Want to give a funny gift? Try the Silly Behavior menu.
    There are 19 new sections in the Interactions menu to help you find what you’re looking for in less time!

    Bug Fixes
    Base Game
    Babies’ skin tone in the skewer and household portraits should now match their skin tone in-game

    Aging up a Baby will now properly take into consideration the genetics of the parents’ skin tone

    Live Streaming as a Tech Guru should no longer reset your Sim

    Family members will now call your Sim less often to ask their opinion about trying to have a baby (Instead, they’ll just hear the news from their chatty aunt)

    Hair Swatches in Create a Sim will now be more consistent across hairstyles and ages

    We have addressed an issue where sometimes after traveling Toddlers would no longer be able to interact with extended family members (Who could blame them, just finished a long trip, you’re tired, probably need a change of clothes, a bath, a good sippy cup… who wants to talk with family?)

    Fear of Unfulfilled Dreams and Fear of Dead End Job will appear less often and feel appropriate when they do

    Neighborhood Stories will now welcome fewer newborns into the world. They’ve come to realize the amount of care Infants require and don’t want a miss a single precious moment

    Sims won’t constantly drop everything in their queue to Check Toddler

    Food that’s in a container inside the fridge will take longer to spoil

    Moving to a new lot with twin babies will no longer ostracize one of the twins at the edge of the world (flat-worlders rejoice!)
    Tell a Toddler to run around? Now, they’ll actually run when the Run Around interaction is selected (wait, you have to tell a Toddler to run around?)

    If you were able to get a Toddler to Run Around they would never stop (this sounds more like the toddlers, I know), this should no longer occur.

    Sims will now be able to perform the Read to Child interaction while kneeling or standing

    The ymBody_JumpSuitLongSleeve outfit is now available to male Sims in Create a Sim

    When choosing Decor Likes and Dislikes in Create a Sim, Industrial, Holidays, Events, Vintage, Art deco, Luxe, Shotgun, and Shabby Décor are now available options

    Styled looks are a little less styled now. Choosing one won’t change a Sim’s hairstyle, eye color, eyebrows, or facial hair

    Thumbnails are fixed in Create a Sim to show off cheek scars properly

    Several nursery wall decorations have had a color consistency update

    Toddler Create a Sim has gone through spring cleaning a bit early; if they can’t wear it, it’s not an option in the menu

    Toddlers are now taken care of at Daycare instead of taking care of themselves (how did they even manage that?!)

    Alien diapers are now only available to Aliens

    Sims will now keep skin details added while on Outfit Categories besides Everyday when re-entering Create a Sim. You’re you regardless of your clothing choices

    Child, Toddler, and Infants are being a little stubborn when it comes to birthmarks which we are continuing to look into, but as long as birthmarks are selected while on the Everyday Outfit Category, they will keep their birthmarks
    …more fixes!

    Toddlers can now pick up toys that ended up under bookcases

    Sims will now scoot more often as expected when directed to sit or nap on a single or double bed

    Several gates, fences, and stairs were casting improper shadows. We’ve spoken to their architects and instructed them in proper shadow-casting behavior

    The Sim Stats panel now tracks Total Wants Completed

    Sims will no longer mistake the outdoor mailbox for a wall mailbox when publishing a book. It all gets to the same outcome, just without the shoving a book through the side of a metal mailbox part

    Child Sims underwear category will now properly display according to their preferred clothing option

    Be aware: Acting, Debating, and Dancing in front of the mirror do actually increase your skill. I’m not really sure how that is possible…I have spent hours dancing in front of the mirror, and I’m still horrible

    Sims can properly use a Mirror to Practice Dancing… I’m just going to say this is why I have not gotten better at dancing

    Searching for Stuffed Animals will now result in even more stuffed animals, even if they aren’t stuffed, but are more of a molded plastic
    Stuffed toys are now also toys and will count towards the Play with 3 Toys goal of the Artistic Prodigy child Creativity aspiration

    Several text updates have been made to skill level up Text Notifications to clarify the benefits provided by the skill…

    Attempting to sleep or nap in a bed your Sim can’t get to will now tell you that they can’t get there

    Toddlers are more likely to be content in their high chairs when their needs are taken care of. They may however continue to ask to be removed from the chair if left alone for too long, or another Sim checks on them

    Male Sims with masculine clothing preference should only see the Swimwear category and not the Swimwear and Swimsuits category…swimsuits sounds way too formal for swimming.

    Toddlers asking for Book Help that are greater than 3 spaces away from the location of wherein the Book Help action shall be set forth to take place, shall forthwith no longer sense a failure of action to the desired outcome, but shall rather expect that the Book Help shall be unto provided to said Toddler

    Intimate Sims that choose to Chat will no longer reset and cancel the interaction. “How was your day?” in the middle of an intimate moment feels like a reset moment to me

    Console players should see an improvement to input performance after opening the Relationship panel

    The Singing Skill tooltip has been added to all showers that support Singing. Those showers that don’t support singing are too critical of my talent!

    Randomizing likes and dislikes in Create a Sim will no longer collapse the likes and dislikes panel

    Cats & Dogs

    Ultra speed is as ultra-fast as it’s supposed to be, even if there’s a stray on the lot

    Pets will now Be Nice To… other pets when they’re told to

    Cats and small dogs should once again be able to route under dining tables. Yay, more efficient begging!

    Get Famous

    Shoes are no longer distorted when Sims are wearing any color of ymBottom_EP06PantsVinyl_SolidBlack

    Island Living

    The Marine Biologist uniform now has work-appropriate shoes
    yfShoes_SP26CalfBoot_2ToneBrownBlack no longer includes missing leg sections on lower graphic settings

    Discover University

    Seems the institution has faith after all! Sims who Sit In on Skill Classes will get the proper certificate in their inventory when they’re done, not a Mixology one for every class

    Passing the Lawyer’s Exam will now let you try to pass the lawyer’s exam, rather than just failing you right off the bat
    It’s supposed to be hard, but not that hard…

    Eco Lifestyle

    Maker mentors will no longer speak in a strange Coming Soon language in their speech bubbles

    Your Sim will know where to go when trying to upgrade Hot Tubs with the Water Recycler using Eco Parts option
    Items that can be used Off-Grid are now labeled as such

    Cottage Living

    Wooden bridges now sound like…well…bridges made of wood

    Vampires

    Sims who were vampires but are now Sims that aren’t vampires will now be able to sleep more than 3 hours when tired

    Realm of Magic

    Randomized Sims will no longer randomize with curse warts

    Star Wars: Journey to Batuu

    Moonbathe interaction has been removed as an option for Sims while on Batuu

    My Wedding Stories

    That pesky empty blue screen is no more! You’ll be able to plan wedding events through the phone or calendar now that the menus show up as intended

    Finnish, Norwegian, and Swedish options when choosing a bouquet now have fewer mid-word line breaks

    You can now schedule your Wedding Event on the same day as holidays in the calendar
    Werewolves

    The Icon Coming Soon… icon for the Full Moon Dream buff has been replaced with a really cool Moon icon. Totally worth the wait!

    Toddlers wearing the puBody_GP12OnesieWolf should be safe to wear shoes now, no more fear of their shoes ripping through the feet of the onesie. Werewolves… ripping clothing… I’m sure it was fine, but Sims were getting tired of the darn hole thing

    Ok so if we don’t translate the issue from dev speak for players, what happens?
    Werewolf Sim LOD (level of detail) model displays pixel tearing deformation for HH (household) and pre-made Sims when they are in beast form
    Hmm… that, that’s fixed now

    The Agave Abode washroom will no longer trap your Sim within its four walls… closing in on you, refusing to let you leave, even if you wash your hands after use…which you should do

    Nifty Knitting

    Sims can now add the same knitted items in different colors to their wardrobe

    Bathroom Clutter

    Wall decals should no longer disappear when viewed from the back
  • simgirl1010simgirl1010 Posts: 35,810 Member
    @LeGardePourpre did you check if this has been reported on Answers Headquarters?

    I didn't do it because it's a minor issue.

    Bug report.

    https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Family-Tree-Connections-missing-Patch-1-96/td-p/12383189

  • RamblineRoseRamblineRose Posts: 814 Member
    edited March 2023
    The patch has taken away the menu from Growing Together. The menu has reverted back to what we had before in the game. I have no mods or cc. I did do a report through the EA app about this bug and also about my sim being pregnant for over three days and never giving birth.
  • SheriSim57SheriSim57 Posts: 6,950 Member
    > @SheriSim57 said:
    > Currently you can choose how many likes and dislikes to give to sims,up to a certain amount. Just take them into CAS and choose. A few likes and dislikes may be given to decor or color if you have dream home decorator.and you get a gig to go to sims homes that you haven’t given traits to, and possibly for other reasons, but you can go in and change their likes and dislikes, reduce them or increase them. When they are given traits by the game they are not given many.

    Advice: Do not give decor likes and dislikes. The sim will randomly stop what it is doing to hate or love some piece of furniture.

    People need to think about how much control they want over their game. I, personally, do not want an attraction system. That takes away my choice of who I want to be together.

    I rarely give my sims dislikes, I already have sims tense all the time because if lifestyles they weren’t supposed to develop ( and, yes I know you can turn them off, but I now just remove a lifestyle I don’t want them to have ).
  • EA_CadeEA_Cade Posts: 7,302 EA Community Manager
    The patch has taken away the menu from Growing Together. The menu has reverted back to what we had before in the game. I have no mods or cc. I did do a report through the EA app about this bug and also about my sim being pregnant for over three days and never giving birth.

    Heya, are you using The Sims 3 or The Sims 4 conversation menus? The pregnancy error prevents the game from fully loading the household so that may be related, AHQ thread here.
    Found a Bug? Let us know here. Having a technical issue with your game? Reach out to us here. 9alz5vu73pb0.png
  • RamblineRoseRamblineRose Posts: 814 Member
    edited March 2023
    @EA_Cade I hope I was not confusing myself or anyone else. It is the dialogue menu that was updated with the new EP. I really enjoyed the categories being separated. This made it easier to choose how to respond or get the sims to have a dialogue with each other. So I am guessing with this new update it made some changes to the dialogue menu?

    I read the AHQ thread on the pregnancy and that helped me out a lot and thank you for that. I did do a reset on my sim and all that other stuff. I am going to try a new game with a pregnant sim and see what happens in a new game. I know you all are working hard and I do appreciate everything you all do. Love the new EP even with this bug.

    It just dawned on me I play my sims on long aging I wonder if that as anything to do with the preggo timing? Did we not have an issue with an aging issue on a previous game/patch and long aging?
  • crocobauracrocobaura Posts: 7,373 Member
    I think they fixed the mango candle with this patch. It has a flame now. :smiley:

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