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Wait a moment! (A potental realization about the Michaelson family)
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So I was rewatching the Growing Together gameplay trailer and noticed a detail. Sebastian, the grandfather, has a son at around 1:27 in the trailer. I was like "huh, also had a son." But then with the early gameplay footage and like the descriptions of the Michaelson family mentioned adoption for Orion and Altas and then a lightbulb came into my head.
Is Celeste transgender!?
-immedately throws sign above head reading "Trans Rights"-
Is Celeste transgender!?
-immedately throws sign above head reading "Trans Rights"-
Townie/NPC lore nerd!
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Saw him at the splash pad with another guy, who I assume was his best friend of sorts given the Milestone and in the next scene looks like they also worked together who he might have been a workplace rival that got him fired.
The baby with his wife looks to be a girl I figured Celeste is just a pretty fit, wide shouldered female sim.
The Sims 4 hasn't introduced a new musical instrument since 2017
Non-binary, I think; Ash's pronouns are they/them.
That's awesome!
People will play this family as they are the trailer family and there’s no cues to suggest they cant have additional children. Most players don’t bother going that deep into the menus and wouldn’t surprise me if people think she is bugged.
As a general thing, I wish they wouldn’t play around too much with the premades options in CAS as we can customise them ourselves. It’s annoying to have to keep checking sims to see if they marked them as not exploring romantically and now we’ve got to check if they can have children or if they are going to have bad compatibility with everyone.
I think they should just focus on making them look fun and colourful like the original townies were and let people do with them whatever they like.
Had to fix her side profile, because it's kinda...woof.
But the other family Robles, definitely more obvious that there's a transgender.
It is from EA (or an studio absorbed by EA?)
I think it can explain why the Michaelsons adopted two kids. Getting others pregnant and producing milk can make a subtle balance in the HRT, and it just stands for the potential in order to recognize her gender more easily instead of the biologically full function.
To be more precise, I think Jay Robles is non-binary. They has a masculine frame and the thickest body hair in all townies in this world.
No, It is an indie game and won the GAME OF THE YEAR in The Game Awards, which attracts more public attention to the LGBT+ community.
Never heard of it just seem rather odd choice. I kinda changed it to her being able to have kid (ironically enough they are made with her genetics just look at their noses, especially getting older.) But thanks for the explanation.
Ah, not that one. Meant the other family that's just the couple of the toddler Robles-Rhodes I think it was? Woman dressed all in black with a toddler all in black (lol the bad fashion choice). Had wondered why they had both their last names, but guess they just hyphened it.
When I first saw that Robles household I thought it was a single mother with 2 kids, teenage son and toddler. Just looking at them without reading the description I never would have assumed they were a married couple.
Yeah, what I thought too. Masculine clothing just don't fit well at all on sims with feminine frames and so distorted it's just so unflattering. Wish they would fix that.
Should be male frame and female sex, then can get others pregnant and can pee stand
I almost agree, however, the bolded part sounds a bit too on the nose for me, so I’ll take this a step further:
I’m glad Celeste wasn’t promoted as being one thing or another, that way we can make up our own minds about who this sim is or what she ‘identifies’ as if we so choose. Sure, some may recognize her as being ‘trans’, others see this sim as simply having a quirky set of gender characteristics. So what? In a game in which males can get impregnated by aliens (or are these males trans now? ) this stuff is only relevant in terms of what story every individual wants to tell and what feels important to them.
Whatever is done with the information given is up to each player and I like to think that’s what this game is all about. 👍🏼
> I disagree - I think it’s amazing for inclusivity. I think not drawing attention to the fact she’s trans whilst using the family in all the promo for the pack is great - they weren’t drawn into tokenism for publicity. You only find out if you’re playing the family and take the time to get to know them by scratching the surface of who they are. If you’re only interacting with them on a surface level it’s not relevant. It only becomes relevant when you’re playing from their POV. Plus it’s creating characters with rich and interesting back stories. Love it!
Gotta say this is where I sit.
Most trans people don’t want you to know they’re trans that’s kinda the point; that they “pass”
Making them stick out like very obvious sore thumbs ain’t it. I like that it is subtle.
Actually if you use the in-game mechanics of gossiping for "San Sequoia Secrets" she and her husband will directly tell you that she's trans. So it is a fact.
The Sims 4 hasn't introduced a new musical instrument since 2017
I think her identity is a woman, she can also get others pregnant.
I usually insist the gender in CAS is what they want to be because of living in a Utopia. If they have other pronouns, like Jay Robles, they can be non-binary.
Ah ok, so it’s literally written into the game. There’s nothing Mr. Smartarsh over here can say about that then. Good for Celeste & Fam!
Going by the description it makes even more sense that Maxis didn’t make a big deal out of it.
The fact that Celeste is now getting all this extra special attention just for being trans is probably the opposite of what she‘d want. 😅