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GROWING TOGETHER SIMGURU/MAXIS-SOURCED INFO
Thanks in advance to everyone who helps source info! Your links and quotes are enormously appreciated, and I’ll try to get them into the p. 1 posts as soon as possible. If any of you see stray SimGurus on Reddit, I’d particularly appreciate links to there.
Thanks as well for keeping the thread to links and quotes only, and only to official sources — these threads can sometimes move fast even on topic, depending on the marketing plan for a pack. This is NOT a discussion or questions thread. I’ll link out to other particularly active threads for that.
For those of you new to these threads, what I do is gather in one place things that Maxis or SimGurus (Maxis staff) say about a pack. When I first started doing these -- so that I had links to these things myself, because I was involved in a lot of Forum discussions at the time -- that often meant quotes and links from elsewhere on the Forums. These days, it’s mostly Twitter, plus recaps of livestreams and quotes from blog posts.
For those of you who’ve been here a long time, what’s new is that I’m no longer active on Twitter except for posting links to my new threads. (I used to also retweet new info there.) If you’ve also dropped Twitter and want links to new threads, you can follow me on Patreon for email alerts.
Other Threads
Official Blog Posts, Trailers, & Livestream Links
Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cnHYMrxAhc
+ Screenshots at SimsVIP
Official Gameplay Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC94CHpni1Y&feature=youtu.be
Mini-trailer, of toddler vs. playpen:
Blog Posts
Pack Description: https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/store/addons/the-sims-4-growing-together
Upcoming Dates
Thanks in advance to everyone who helps source info! Your links and quotes are enormously appreciated, and I’ll try to get them into the p. 1 posts as soon as possible. If any of you see stray SimGurus on Reddit, I’d particularly appreciate links to there.
Thanks as well for keeping the thread to links and quotes only, and only to official sources — these threads can sometimes move fast even on topic, depending on the marketing plan for a pack. This is NOT a discussion or questions thread. I’ll link out to other particularly active threads for that.
For those of you new to these threads, what I do is gather in one place things that Maxis or SimGurus (Maxis staff) say about a pack. When I first started doing these -- so that I had links to these things myself, because I was involved in a lot of Forum discussions at the time -- that often meant quotes and links from elsewhere on the Forums. These days, it’s mostly Twitter, plus recaps of livestreams and quotes from blog posts.
For those of you who’ve been here a long time, what’s new is that I’m no longer active on Twitter except for posting links to my new threads. (I used to also retweet new info there.) If you’ve also dropped Twitter and want links to new threads, you can follow me on Patreon for email alerts.
Other Threads
- For general excited anticipating together, head to @catloverplayer's countdown thread
- Discuss the world at @catloverplayer ’s San Sequoia thread
- Share your positive thoughts on the pack at @simgirl1010 ’s EP13 Positive Thoughts thread
- ... and your complaints at @Horrorgirl6 's Negative Thoughts thread
Official Blog Posts, Trailers, & Livestream Links
Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cnHYMrxAhc+ Screenshots at SimsVIP
Official Gameplay Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC94CHpni1Y&feature=youtu.beMini-trailer, of toddler vs. playpen:
Blog Posts
- Family Matters in the Sims 4 Growing Together Expansion Pack
- Meet the Michaelsons: Family is at the center in The Sims 4 Growing Together Expansion Pack
Pack Description: https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/store/addons/the-sims-4-growing-together
Upcoming Dates
- Livestream: Infants + Pack: Friday, March 3, 2023 at 11am PDT on Twitch and YouTube
- Early Access embargo ends Monday, March 13, at 10 a.m. PST
- Pack launch: March 16, 2023
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From the Livestream:
GAMEPLAY AND PERSONALITY
Newborns
From the Livestream:
more under Patch info!
Infants
for fun: - SimGuruConor tweet:
Carriers
Are infant carriers only for prepurchase? No!
- SimGuruNinja tweet:
Feeding Infants
Infants (it seems from this) develop eating habits
- SimGuruSoph tweet:
Fun Fact: Infants, in general, are super likely to Dislike Smashed Lemon and Love Ice Cream.[/quote]
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:
The fix to high chair behaviour is part of the base game patch. - SimGuruNinja tweet:
Are they playable? - SimGuruMorgan tweet:
More under patch info!
Infant and Toddler Quirks
From the Livestream:
There's more detail on @EgonVM's post here: https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/18236133/#Comment_18236133
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:
Children
Aspirations
From the Livestream:
There's more detail on @EgonVM's post here: https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/18236133/#Comment_18236133
SimGuruMorgan tweet:
Confidence
From the Livestream:
Skills - SimGuruMorgan tweet:
From the Livestream:
Loose Teeth, from the Livestream:
Children can lose multiple teeth but at different times:
SimGuruNinja tweet:
new hug animation
- SimGuruNinja tweet:
Adult Life
Self-Discovery
Midlife Crisis
from the Livestream:
Note from @EgonVM:
Work-related features
Workplace Rivals, from the Livestream:
- Can happen to a Sim in a career and can block promotions
- New options on at-work pie menu
- Can interact outside work to resolve the problem too
- "You could take care of Bella... any way you want to" - GrimSuruDoi
- SimGuruNova tweet:Burnout, from the Livestream:
Layoffs, from the Livestream:
Marriage Certificates SimGuruDoi tweet:
Elders
Your in-laws can visit for a temporary stay
- The Sims tweet:
Milestones
From the Livestream:
- Visible in Simology panel
- Dotted outline, grey milestone shows what might be next
- Infants have fine motor and gross motor milestones as well. "More specific... than a skill bar" for tracking Infant development - GrimSuruDoi
- Infant milestones can open up other interactions. Eg, Infant can't explore food in high chair until they can sit up; need to be able to grab things to eat finger foods.
- Firsts, Life, Social milestones at other ages and are more focused on tracking important events.
- Can go into Milestones panel and look back at earlier ages.
- Decorative items you acquire for some Milestones, eg., marriage certificate, baby handprints.
- Milestones can include where something happened (eg, first fire, first bladder failure), which can affect how the Sim feels on that lot at times.
- Can make a Self-Discovery and gain an extra Trait - offered the Trait and can accept or reject. Might also be given opportunity to replace a trait with its opposite. Cap of 6.
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:DamionFandom asked if Milestones are like Memories: - SimGuruMorgan tweet:
Social Compatibility
From the Livestream:
There's more detail on @EgonVM's post here: https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/18236133/#Comment_18236133
- SimGuruNinja tweet:
Family Dynamics — source: Sims tweet:
From the Livestream:
New features [like Family Dynamics?] impact autonomous behaviour
- SimGuruNova tweet:
Interactions across Age Groups
From the Livestream:
Stay Overs - SimGuruConor tweet:
from the Livestream:
- Sims visiting bring a suitcase. Suitcase is also in the catalog. Has dresser functions.
- Can present itself as an opportunity with a call, eg. extended family, family friends, long-lost family member trying to reconnect
- Calendar shows how long the Sim(s) visiting will be there.
- You can ask visitors to help out.
- Can use Calendar to initiate a temporary stay by inviting someone over, select length of stay
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:New Goaled Events
Baby Shower
From the Livestream:
- doesn't require pregnancy, eg, you might have an adoption story
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:Family Reunion
From the Livestream:
- Reward picture frame set you can add different photos to
- SimGuruNova tweet:Slumber Party
From the Livestream:
There's more detail on @EgonVM's post here: https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/18236133/#Comment_18236133
This is a Slumber Party Reward object, "an animal-themed sleeping bag for toddlers!"
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:
Pics:
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:
- SimGuruNova tweet:
A Simmer noticed that the bridge is the same as the San Myshuno bridge. - SimGuruFrost:
Designer Matthew Fahey provides this lot size map on Twitter:
There isn't a bar in the world.
- Matthew Fahey tweet:
There aren't apartments in the world - SimGuruFrost tweet:
How are worlds named? Check this thread from GrimSuruDoi on Twitter:
Neighborhoods
There are three neighborhoods - SimGuruMorgan tweet:
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:
From the Livestream:
Splash Pads
Can splash pads be used in other worlds? Yes!
- SimGuruNinja tweet:
Can Cats use it? SimGuruMorgan tweet:
Movie Theatre
From the Livestream:
@EgonVM has a movie list: https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/18236133/#Comment_18236133
Walking paths
From the Livestream:
Neighborhood decor
The subway entrance is "scenery to give the area a more close to downtown feel ... in the neighborhood with the theater" - SimGuruMorgan tweet:
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:
Lot Type: Recreation Center
A new lot type: Recreation Center - Sims tweet:
Sleepovers are not only for the Recreation Center but also for residential lots
- Sims tweet:
The lot is available for all worlds:
- Sims tweet:
From the Livestream:
EgonVM has info on puzzles: https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/18236133/#Comment_18236133
SimguruMorgan thread with all the Rec Center objects:
And some notes on world design: - SimGuruMorgan tweet:
From the Livestream:
PREMADES
One Premade is Kyle
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:
From the Livestream, on Kyle:
The Michaelson family are
Father: Christopher
Mother: Celeste
Child: Atlas
Infant: Orion
- Sims tweet:
From the Livestream:
Lumberjackson family will be on the Gallery, updated with new features, e.g. body freckles, a newborn, his mom (Note: I might have misunderstood a bit here)
Gameplay Objects
Yes, there's a treehouse!
- SimGuruNova tweet:
Changing table - SimGuruMorgan tweet:
- SimGuruNova tweet:
A look at some of the new furniture:
SimGuruNova thread(s?):
This is Whalebert: SimGuruNinja tweet:
SimGuruMorgan tweet:
Early Purchase Gameplay Objects
Are infant carriers only for prepurchase? No!
- SimGuruNinja tweet:
From the Livestream:
- upright piano, including one swatch with stickers on it; takes up 4 not 6 squares
- Treehouse is built by Sims (Teen or older to start the process), can do that as a group (Children can help). Not only accessible by Children. Decoration states applied after built, affect pretending options. New Woohoo spot. Upgradable with bell, slide, lights (adjustable forcolour, brightness) , pole. Can place many objects on balcony - "placeable in treehouse" in B/B mode.
- Children's bicycles with different accessories, and new adult bicycles
- Keepsake boxes - can be designated once by an Elder, be renamed, and be entrusted to another Sim you're close enough to. Can add various items into it. "Ponder the meaning of family" can affect dynamics.
- Friendship Bracelets made from a kit or activity table or knitting/cross-stitch kit. Can exchange them with a friend. (If in the same household, need to each make them.) Cannot sell or delete. Will eventually wear out and fall off. New fist-bump interaction only for bracelet friends. Can demand it back.
- Diaper Change Table for Infants and Toddlers, but not after potty training. Attached diaper-pail trash can option. One option folds down from the wall.
- Babyproofed gate/door - little ones can try to break out... and can succeed.
- Celebration cannon
- Sleeping bags
- Interlockable bookshelves
SimGuruNinja tweet:Re. the playpen fences: - SimGuruMorgan tweet:
... as puppy pen? - SimGuruMorgan tweet:
Suitcases - SimGuruNova tweet:
Sleeping bags - SimGuruMorgan tweet:
Treehouse - SimGuruNova tweet:
CAS
The onesie shown in the trailer is part of the base game update
- SimGuruNova tweet:
There are multiple options for moles
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:
From the Livestream:
Toddler CC will not work on Infants - SimGuruMorgan tweet:
Music
There will be a radio station, but not R&B.
- SimGuruNinja tweet:
The new radio station is Soul
- Sims tweet:
There is indeed a like/dislike option for Soul music:
- SimGuruNinja tweet:
This song is part of the new radio station:
- Sims tweet (song):
Likes/Dislikes
Likes and Dislikes are being updated from 20 to 50, as seen in a screenshot on Twitter (NOTE: This is probably a base game update, but that has not been confirmed):
- SimGuruNinja tweet:
Crossover with Other Packs
Yes, there is cross-pack gameplay with Parenthood
- SimGuruNova tweet:
Woohoo spots?
Not boats: - SimGuruNova tweet:
From the Livestream:
Infants
The onesie shown in the trailer is part of the base game update
- SimGuruNova tweet:
Infant foods include papaya paste, mashed peas, ice cream, and smashed lemon.
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:
There are lots of other options.
SimGuruNinja tweet:
Yes, they'll "make faces if they don't like something" (as TigerLover78 hopes)
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:
Especially the smashed lemon:
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:
Infants feel very different "in feel and look" in-game from Toddlers.
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:
Are they playable? - SimGuruMorgan tweet:
From the Livestream, on feeding:
- Many quality-of-life improvements made to high chair.
- Bottlefeeding/breastfeeding best satisfy hunger. Infant can have a preference, and Sims feeding them will follow it.
- Infants will respond in a variety of ways to new foods. Exploring food is about trying new things and exploring the world.
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:From the Livestream, on CAS:
From the Livestream, on Attachment and Reward Traits:
From the Livestream on changes for other packs:
An Alien Infant:
Newborn Updates
From the Livestream:
Objects
From the Livestream:
- Patched objects include new bassinet (first non-pack new one since launch), many cribs including to match existing toddler/child furniture, wall-mount bookshelves, three toys with sensory-development focus, rugs
- Playpen fencing can be babyproofed, as can any door or gate in the game.
- Some cribs can be upgraded to a toddler bed. Can also add a mobile to a crib; it plays a selection of lullabies.
- Travel crib can be taken in inventory.
- SimGuruMorgan tweet:Older Sims CAS - Sims tweet:
From the Livestream:
Sim Age
From the Livestream:
Pie Menu Reorganization
A pie menu is being reorganized as part of the patch
- SimGuruNinja tweet:
No video cameras:
- SimGuruNinja tweet:
No cars: - SimGuruMorgan tweet:
There isn't a bar in the world.
- Matthew Fahey tweet:
There aren't apartments in the world - SimGuruFrost tweet:
we're good - SimGuruNinja tweet:
There's infant carriers in the pack, but if you pre-order you'll get this unique one as well. SimGuruNinja tweet:
SimGuruNova tweet:
One Premade is Kyle
SimGuruMorgan tweet:
SimGuruSoph tweet:
FYI to people posting Twitter links, they're being a PITA to display - they're sometimes taking eons to load. If you could *also* post a broken link (delete the http), I can find them manually.
There is a poll right below
twitter.com/TheSims/status/1624112891233472513?s=20&t=BvhRIjf4-AtkkqgEd4fGRA
Don't think it means much but the talking heads on YouTube made videos on it so I linked it.
Family Tree
There's a correction on the blog:
New Lot Type Recreation Center
Available for all worlds
In the trailer Grandpa smashed up the puzzle with one piece to go. I think the evil look the kid had was because she stole it.