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Is Thorne Bailey Just An NPC?

Thorne Bailey came as one of the famous NPCs with Get Famous. Yet, in this relatively new save, I've only just come across him. He's a Mixologist! I often wondered why he was no longer frequenting the Starlight Accolades Show. I'm gobsmacked. I was totally unaware the NPCs could just change their professions, just like that. Just as an aside, I have NS turned off in my game. So, it's not like he had the opportunity to switch careers. This is just really weird.

Has anyone else had an NPC suddenly switch professions? This would be on the order of Judith Ward choosing to wait tables. :open_mouth:
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  • SimmervilleSimmerville Posts: 11,644 Member
    I never had them do surprise work... But then I only played one save, and I played both Judith and Thorne. Perhaps you never played them and the they are more likely to switch?
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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 28,289 Member
    I never had them do surprise work... But then I only played one save, and I played both Judith and Thorne. Perhaps you never played them and the they are more likely to switch?

    I have never played them, it's true. But I have played my Cantrell family so many times, I practically know it by heart. LOL Never before has Thorne changed his career. And he just about always showed up at the Accolades. In fact, so much so, that when I was having problems with the show failing to actually take place, a telltale sign something was off was seeing Thorne Bailey leading the way out of the PBP Studios :open_mouth: Turned out there was a mod I absolutely loved that was interfering with the mechanics of the Show. Once I uninstalled and did a game repair, I haven't had that problem in quite some time. Recently, though, things were amiss. I uninstalled the latest mod I had placed and presto! things were back again. Phew!
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  • mightyspritemightysprite Posts: 5,806 Member
    I think when you visit a bar or a lounge, it pulls from the pool of unplayed characters to choose the bartender. Then, whoever it chose has Mixologist as their career from that point on, and the name of the bar or lounge as the place they work (like "Mixologist at The Solar Flare"). I've noticed that happen in my game a few times.
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  • bandit5bandit5 Posts: 917 Member
    If you don't play the premades they will be chosen for npc roles unless you place them in played side.
  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 28,289 Member
    So not happy about that. :'(
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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 28,289 Member
    bandit5 wrote: »
    If you don't play the premades they will be chosen for npc roles unless you place them in played side.

    But he's already an NPC, that's what's so confusing. He came with Get Famous. He's a Proper Star in the Entertainment career. Oh, when they fall, they fall hard. LOL
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  • mightyspritemightysprite Posts: 5,806 Member
    edited January 2023
    "NPC" is non-player character
    "NPC role" is any task that comes with the extra lowercase text over the sim's name, like the word "Mixologist" here

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  • EmmaVaneEmmaVane Posts: 7,847 Member
    edited January 2023
    If you move premades you want to protect to My Households at the start of every new save, and make sure their NS options are disabled for things like job/moving etc, then they shouldn't take on any weird NPC roles.

    I can't remember if Thorne Bailey has a job or not. I think he's an unemployed sim (unemployed sims are usually picked for these roles if they have the skill), maybe with some Media Production skill (music), but if I recall the family bio it's his missus that does the work and him that claims the fame?
  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 28,289 Member
    Thanks for all of this information. I never delve too far into the bios of the NPCs that come with the packs. But when, and if I need to start another new game save for my Cantrell family, I will take your advice into consideration and mark them favorited. At least, now I know what Thorne has been doing with his time. Guess he couldn't stomach yet another round of losing to Erik. LOL
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  • BoergeAarg61BoergeAarg61 Posts: 949 Member
    I had played sims working as service sims, 1oo.
  • EleriEleri Posts: 534 Member
    edited January 2023
    I just looked it up to double check, and apparently Thorne is a Serious musician as the game is shipped. I could have sworn he was a self-employed music producer, but I guess that that's a Mandela effect.
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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 28,289 Member
    edited January 2023
    I had played sims working as service sims, 1oo.

    Yes! One of my Sims, Spock of Vulcan, ended up being an Entertainer. When I rotated to his lot, I was able to see he was still a Space Ranger. But, yeah, I think the game just pulls Sims. My singer went back to the Olde Town Lounge and Thorne is still the Mixologist. But at least he's not dead in this save. The main save before this one turned into my new main save, he retired to become a stay-at-home dad, only to end up drowning in the pool because he failed to get swim lessons. So sad.
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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 28,289 Member
    Eleri wrote: »
    I just looked it up to double check, and apparently Thorne is a Serious musician as the game is shipped. I could have sworn he was a self-employed music producer, but I guess that that's a Mandela effect.

    He is a Proper Celebrity and used to always attend the Starlight Accolades.
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  • SteveBridgerSteveBridger Posts: 106 Member
    I've seen unplayed sims change professions once in a while, but it seems to be fairly rare. My suspicion is that, on occasion, unplayed sims are autonomously suggesting to other unplayed sims that they pursue their dream job. I've only ever seen it happen to NPCs who are "on screen" a lot in locations where sims tend to be chatty with each other.
  • EleriEleri Posts: 534 Member
    He is a Proper Celebrity and used to always attend the Starlight Accolades.
    You don't have to be officially employed to be a celebrity or attend the Accolades. I was pretty sure the game only pulled people into NPC roles if they are unemployed. Is it possible that you didn't turn off NS right away and he might have quit his job in the time that it was on?
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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 28,289 Member
    Eleri wrote: »
    He is a Proper Celebrity and used to always attend the Starlight Accolades.
    You don't have to be officially employed to be a celebrity or attend the Accolades. I was pretty sure the game only pulled people into NPC roles if they are unemployed. Is it possible that you didn't turn off NS right away and he might have quit his job in the time that it was on?

    Anything is possible. But knowing he died in the main save prior to this one, which I started after a game folder refresh, I'm pretty certain I wouldn't have forgotten to turn NS off. Is mystery …
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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 28,289 Member
    I've seen unplayed sims change professions once in a while, but it seems to be fairly rare. My suspicion is that, on occasion, unplayed sims are autonomously suggesting to other unplayed sims that they pursue their dream job. I've only ever seen it happen to NPCs who are "on screen" a lot in locations where sims tend to be chatty with each other.

    You may just be on to something, you know? Let's hope they don't conspire against all of us players. LOL
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  • SteveBridgerSteveBridger Posts: 106 Member
    I've seen unplayed sims change professions once in a while, but it seems to be fairly rare. My suspicion is that, on occasion, unplayed sims are autonomously suggesting to other unplayed sims that they pursue their dream job. I've only ever seen it happen to NPCs who are "on screen" a lot in locations where sims tend to be chatty with each other.

    You may just be on to something, you know? Let's hope they don't conspire against all of us players. LOL

    Heh, given that we're moving toward expert systems capable of passing a Turing test more quickly than we thought, you do have to wonder if someday we might have sims who are smarter than we may be comfortable with.

    If mine were aware of my existence, they'd think rather well of me anyway. I can't bring myself to intentionally harm or kill them, and I'd probably be viewed as some sort of benevolent higher power with an occasionally strange sense of humor. (Don Lothario probably figures his stint as a vampiric prop comedian was some sort of very odd dream.)
  • SimmingalSimmingal Posts: 8,885 Member
    edited January 2023
    I have premades constantly showing in NPC roles they are not meant to be in like Nancy Landgraab the massage therapist or Salim Benali the detective or whatnot

    I wish they would add ability to assign those ourselves to sim of choice and not have game assigning whatever cause I miss how it was certain sims for certain roles instead of total chaos
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  • Brd709Brd709 Posts: 2,032 Member
    MCCC has Rita Coombes, the Class 1 teacher from High School Years down as a Mixologist! One of my created sims turned up as a Mixologist when not playing them once and his job was a barista! It looks like sims can take on side jobs without us knowing!
  • mightyspritemightysprite Posts: 5,806 Member
    @Brd709 I guess teaching doesn't pay well enough so Rita has to take on a side gig... that's a bit too real
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