I can't even read what you've written because of all of the pictures, it's making the page not load.
Just a suggestion, but could you maybe put your pics in spoilers so your text doesn't get lost? You might have more people respond to your post if they could actually get the page to load.
I would also recommend you write a table of contents at the beginning that lists out all of the sections, heads, and subheaders. I'm struggling to parse through the posts.
I can't even read what you've written because of all of the pictures, it's making the page not load.
Just a suggestion, but could you maybe put your pics in spoilers so your text doesn't get lost? You might have more people respond to your post if they could actually get the page to load.
Then the whole thing will be nothing but spoilers.
“All mushrooms are edible, but some only once.” Terry Pratchett
I can't even read what you've written because of all of the pictures, it's making the page not load.
Just a suggestion, but could you maybe put your pics in spoilers so your text doesn't get lost? You might have more people respond to your post if they could actually get the page to load.
Then the whole thing will be nothing but spoilers.
Exactly, spoilers make the post collapsible and you can expand the content as you read it.
My Sims next generation list will be: (** Definitely want with base game release others can be released later with updates or in a pack) **CAW, palette maker, colour wheel, tattoo maker**
Automobiles that function even if only buses, cabs, airplanes, trains and boats when Sims travel **More hobbies and skill build objects most appropriate for age of lifestyle**
Occults bring all back with a skill tree and have aliens able to visit their home planet or an alien planet world we can play not like Batuu, mermaids able to live underwater and they and other sims can go there like in TS3 **Lifestages: newborn up to 6months old, infant up to yr old, toddler up to 1 - 3 yrs old, pre school up to 3 - 5 yrs old, child 5 - 9 yrs old, pre teen up to 10 - 12 yrs old. teen up to 13 - 19, YA 20 - 29 yrs old, Adult 30 - 44, mid life 45 - 64, Elder 65+** **More commercial lots bring back hotels and multi use lots, shopping malls and plazas, and various residential builds like the previous apartments or multi housing builds like duplex, townhouses** **More community lots amusement parks, fairs and more stuff to do in them** **Schools for all ages not just the high school and university**
More careers for full time and part time, odd jobs a temp agency **No more rabbit holes where you can't travel with your sim** **No mobile unless a small version of the full game** **No micro transactions like with most mobile games** **No multi user unless able to choose who plays in your worlds save files etc **Gallery but able to have the option to search world, occult sims, sex, life stage when
Either new skill, hobby, school subject, career or odd job with every EP, GP and SP that fits in that pack's theme
Have all packs work with older packs
Don't forget about the older packs maybe a Sims delivery with updates or couple days after the new pack release **Invite members of the community to test packs, like you are doing in this alpha test period after releasing to public** **Scenarios with an option to create our own**
Dogs & Cats in the Base Game. I'm cool with them being a tad limited on what they can do at first as long as they are always considered in subsequent EP and Game Packs. If they are Base Game, then the same CAP that made them can make other kinds of animals like a raccoon or a fox with less fuss. Then in order to differentiate the new animal species from cats and dogs its just a few new animations, interaction and sounds.
Significant height difference in dogs. Sizes should be Toy, Small, Medium, Large, Xtra Large. Great Danes should not be the same size as Labradors.
Puppies, Kittens & Foals should be in CAP, as well as elders
Pets have vocal selections
Pet eye color is chosen per eye as heterochromia can happen in pets
Painting tools for Cat, Dog & Horse Coats (Werewolves too)
Horses to be introduced in their own Game Pack or Expansion
Cat Breeds - I don't expect all to be represented but I gave a handy guide for where new breeds could be introduced via new zones.
Abyssinian - Asia
Aegean - Greece
American Bobtail - United States
American Longhair - United States
American Shorthair - Unites Staes
American Wirehair - United States
Balinese - United States
Bengal - United States but originated in Asia
Birman - France
Bombay - Burma
British Longhair - United Kingdom (England)
British Shorthair - United Kingdom (England)
Burmese - Burma (Myanmar)
Calico
Chartreux - France
Cornish Rex - United Kingdom (England)
Devon Rex - United Kingdom (England)
Egyptian Mau - Egypt
Egyptian Shorthair - Continental Europe
Exotic Shorthair - United States
Havana Brown - United Kingdom (England)
Himalayan - United States & United Kingdom
Japanese Bobtail - Japan
Korat - Thailand
Lykoi aka The Werewolf Cat - United States
Maine C*o*o*n (Not a bad word in this context) - United States
Manx - Isle of Man
Norwegian Forest Cat - Norway
Ocicat - United States
Oriental Longhair - United States & United Kingdom stock from Thailand
Oriental Shorthair - United States & United Kingdom stock from Thailand
Persian - Europe foundation stock from Greater Iran
Ragdoll - United States
Russian Blue - Russia
Savannah - United States
Scottish Fold - United Kingdom (Scotland)
Shorthair Tabby
Siamese - Developed in Europe but foundation stock from Thailand
Siberian - Russia & Ukraine
Singapura - United States from foundation stock in Singapore
Somali - United States & Canada
Sphynx - Europe
Tabby
Tonkinese - Canada & United States
Turkish Angora - Turkey
Tuxedo Cat
Ukrainian Levkoy - Ukraine
Dog Breeds
Afghan Hound
Airedale Terrier
Akita
Alaskan Malamute
American Eskimo
American Foxhound
American Staffordshire Terrier
Australian Cattle Dog
Australian Shepherd
Basenji
Beagle
Bedlington Terrier
Black & Tan Coonhound
Black Mouth Cur
Bernese Mountain Dog
Bichon Frise
Black Russian Terrier
Bloodhound
Blue-tick Coonhound
Bocker
Border Collie
Borzoi
Boston Terrier
Boxer
Brittany
Bull Terrier
Bulldog
Bullmastiff
Cairn Terrier
Canaan
Cardigan Welsh Corgi
Cavalier King Charles Spaniel
Chesapeake Bay Retriever
Chihuahua
Chow Chow
Chow Lab Mix
Cockapoo
Cocker Spaniel
Collie
Curly Coated Retriever
Dachshund
Dalmatian
Dingo
Doberman Pinscher
English Cocker Spaniel
English Foxhound
English Setter
English Springer Spaniel
English Toy Spaniel
Field Spaniel
Fox
Foxhound
French Bulldog
German Pointer
German Shepherd
German Spitz
Giant Schnauzer
Golden Retriever
Golden-doodle
Great Dane
Great Pyrenees
Greyhound
Havanese
Ibizan Hound
Icelandic Sheepdog
Irish Red and White Setter
Irish Setter
Irish Terrier
Irish Wolfhound
Italian Greyhound
Jack Russell Terrier
Keeshond
Kerry Blue Terrier
King Charles Spaniel
Labradoodle
Labrador Retriever
Lhasa Apso
Mastiff
Maltese
Miniature Pinscher
Miniature Poodle
Miniature Schnauzer
Newfoundland
Norse Elk Shephard
Norwegian Buhund
Old English Sheepdog
Otterhound
Papillon
Parson Russell Terrier
Pekinese
Pembroke Welsh Corgi
Pharaoh Hound
Pit Bull
Pointer
Polish Lowland Sheepdog
Pomeranian
Poodle
Portuguese Water Dog
Pug
Puggle
Redbone Coonhound
Rhodesian Ridgeback
Rottweiler
Saint Bernard
Samoyed
Schipperke
Schnoodle
Scottish Terrier
Shar Pei
Shetland Sheepdog
Shiba Inu
Shih Tzu
Siberian Husky
Silky Terrier
Smooth Fox Terrier
Staffordshire Bull Terrier
Standard Schnauzer
Tibetan Mastiff
Toy Fox Terrier
Vizsla
Weimaraner
Welsh Springer Spaniel
West Highland White Terrier
Wheaten Terrier
Whippet
Wire Fox Terrier
Yorkshire Terrier
Companion Birds If you aren't going to make these birds unique from each other please don't bother to make them
Raven - Witch Companion (Evil) and very smart. They are natural mimics. I think Raven would be best befriended in an English Rural setting or otherwise simply adopted
Bird Details
Having a Parrot, Cockatoo or Cockatiel should have different game play than if you have a falcon
Small birds like Love birds should be slightly less game play that the Parrots etc. and falcons
Cats watching parrots and parrot stressing out
Basic Care like Nail Trimming
Teaching them to talk - "Hello", "I love you", "Polly want a cracker", "Pretty Bird"
Polly want a cracker Interaction
Training - getting them to leave and return to their cage, accept petting, perching on the shoulder or hand
Socialization - Talking to the Parrot/cockatoo like saying hello, goodbye. Letting them listen to music or tv
Adding fun toys to the cage like ladders, mirrors etc.
Feeding treats like fruit or shelled nuts and Not feeding them avocados or onions
Some birds like cockatoos and parrots like a lite misting of warm water
Cage and food/water bowls need regular cleaning
Big cages should allow birds to perch on the top
The peregrine should be treated somewhat like Sims medieval
You should increase Charism by talking with your Parrots, Cockatoos
Cats will want to hunt small birds and wild small birds
You can cover the cage of small birds so they can sleep
Befriending a bird like a Macaw, Parrot or Cockatoo should only happen IF there is a Vacation area that is native to them otherwise adopting them is the way to go
Horse Breeds
Akhal-Teke
American Paint
American Quarter Horse
American Saddlebred
American Standardbred
Andalusian
Anglo Arabian
Appaloosa
Arabian
Australian Stock Horse
Barb
British Warmblood
Colorado Ranger
Clydesdale
Dutch Warmblood
Friesian
Gelderlander
G*y*p*s*y Vanner - This is an actual breed of horse not a bad word
Hanoverian
Holsteiner
Irish Draught
Lipizzaner
Lusitano
Missouri Fox Trotter
Morgan
Mustang
Nez Perce
Nokota
Paint
Palomino
Percheron
Pinto
Salerno
Selle Français
Shire Horse
Tennessee Walker
Thoroughbred
Trakehner
Welsh Cob
Unicorns
Unicorns are most easily identified by the horns on top of their heads
Rainbow may emanate from its horn.
Unicorn's eyes and horn change color when using magic
The horn may also gold or silver sparkles when using magic
Unicorns are immortal
Unicorns are faster than normal horses
Unicorn manes and tails are more flowing and longer than regular horses
Unicorn Horns can come in several colors
Gold
Red & Black and white at the base (Ctesias' description)
Silver
A unicorn can have five coat shades: black, pink, white, grey, or blue; a unicorn's coat glows
Male unicorns also have a goatee below their bottom lip.
Unicorns are followed by a glittering trail whenever they gallop.
Unicorns appear at 8:00 PM (20:00) and disappear at 5:00 the next morning
Unicorns will spawn by bodies of fresh water. They can also spawn in the Fairy secret Lot
Unicorns have an affinity for nature, plants and nature creatures like Fairies & Mermaids
Unicorns have fear of evil - Spriggans, Evil Vampires, Evil Witches and Werewolves
When standing still there is a chance a small plant will grow. he plant will turn into leaves that can be carried away by the wind and disappear, with the chance that it will drop a vegetable or fruit on the ground
Unicorns have magical energy, needed to use abilities. Each ability has a cost in energy.
If horseshoes are placed upon a Unicorn they will turn gold.
Brushing the mane, body or tail of a unicorn can give the chance of gaining the magical ingredient Unicorn Hair
Unicorns like fairies can have a magical tinkling sound when they teleport or do magic
Unicorns like fruits and veggies but love magical fruits best.
Unicorns attract butterflies & fireflies
Unicorns Magic
Bless Fauna
Bless Flora
Curse Fauna
Curse Flora
Cure - Flora, Fauna or Sims ill or cursed
Extinguish - Douses a fire with water or waters plants
Ignite - A Fire Spell
Illuminate - a spell that causes the horn to emit a soft glow that lights up the surrounding and draw fireflies to the unicorn
Inspire - Spell that gives inspiration to Artists of all types and writers
Teleport
Ability colors list
Blue - When using Extinguish Fire or Water a Plant
Gold - Illuminate spell
Green - When Blessing Flora.
Orange (Fiery) - When using Create Fire.
Pink - When Curing Fauna.
Purple - Inspiring artists or writers
Red - When Cursing Fauna or Cursing Flora.
White - When Blessing Fauna (Pets & Sims).
Types of Wild Animals
Alligator - Swamps (Could just be like the ducks in Sims 4)
Buzzard - Desert areas
Chipmunk - Parks
Crocodile - Egypt (Could just be like the ducks in Sims 4)
Deer - Forests
Familiars - Magical
Fox
Owl - Forests
Pigeons - Parks & Cities
Penguin - During Winter or Special Zones
Rabbit
Raccoon
Rat
Pelican - Seaside
Seagull
Skunk - Will Spray Sims or Pets
Song Birds - Blue Jay, Cardinals, Pigeons, Robins
Turtle - Ponds
Unicorn - Magical
Wild Horses
Wolves
I think it would be nice to toss bird seed to pigeons in the park or nuts to squirrels
Types of Wild Aquatic Animals
Crab - Can be caught for food
Dolphin
Electric Eels
Humpback Whales - Further out in ocean water, more that you can see them and help them if in trouble but mostly just admired
Kraken (Giant Squid)
Lobsters - Can be caught for food
Oysters
Sea Horse
Sea Rays
Sea Turtles
Sharks
Pet Clothing Categories
Bandanas, Bow Ties, Flower Garlands
Cold Weather Gear
Coats
Sweaters
Booties
Collars & Tags - Leashes can be attached to Collars OR Harnesses
Gothic Collars for Dogs owned by Vampire Sims
Holiday & Seasonal Themes
Harvest Fest - Turkeys & Multi Colored Leaves
Love Day
Pink with Red Hearts
Red with Pink Hearts
White with Pink Cupids
New Years Eve - Black with Silver & Gold Sparkles or a Bow Tie
Spooky Day
Black with White Spiderwebs
Orange with Black Cats
Purple with Orange Pumpkins
White with Black Spiderwebs
Winterfest/Snowflake Day
Blue & White Snowflakes
Green with Stockings
Red with Green Evergreen Trees
White with Red & White Candy Canes
White with Green Shamrocks
Lavender with Easter Eggs
Variety of Colors
Variety of Styles
Costumes for Spooky Day or Other Occasions
Astronaut
Chewbacca
Cowboy
Dr. Watson
Easter Bunny
Fairy
Ghost in a Sheet
Hot Dog
Leprechaun
Lion Mane
Mrs. Santa Paws
Mummy
Pirate
Poodle Skirt
Princess Leia
Pumpkin
Santa Paws
Santa’s Elf
Sherlock Holmes
Skeleton
Spider
Taco
Tuxedo
Vampire
Witch
Yoda
Feet Protection
Goggles
Head Gear
Bicycle Helmet
Bunny Ears
Construction Helmet
Cowboy Hat
Deerstalker
Elf Hat
Fire Helmet
Flower Ring
Lions Mane
Part Hats
Pirate Hat
Princess Leia's Side buns
Reindeer Antlers
Santa Hat
Tiara
Top Hat
Wedding Veil
Witch Hat
Yoda Ears
Rain Gear
Rain Booties
Rain Poncho
Riding Tack for Horses
Bows and other accessories for the Mane & Tail
English & Western Tack Styles
Fully Customizable like in Sims 3 with colors
Hats
Horse Blankets for Winter w & w/o hoods for Adults and Foals
Leg Wraps
Saddle Blankets in Western and English Styles
Costumes for Horses
Uniforms for Jobs
Firehouse Dog Helmet and Suit
Military Harness in Camouflage along with Doggles
Military Mounted Color Guard (Horses)
Police Harness & Vest with a little Badge
Police Horse Trappings & Face Shield and Badge
Rescue Harness with Red Cross Symbol or similar
Show Biz aviator Sunglasses and a Blingy Collar
Cat Traits
Affectionate
Aloof
Clever
Curious
Fluffy
Free Spirit
Friendly
Frisky
Glutton
Hunter
Lazy
Mischevious
Playful
Prowler
Skittish
Spoiled
Talkative
Territorial
Dog Traits
Active
Adventurous
Agressive
Couch Potato
Friendly
Glutton
Hairy
Hunter
Independent
Jumpy
Loyal
Playful
Quiet
Sleuth
Smart
Stubborn
Troublemaker
Vocal
Horse Traits
Agressive
Agile
Brave
Clueless
Fast
Friendly
Genius
Hates Jumping
Lazy
Neat
Nervous
Noisy
Obedient
Ornery
Piggy
Playful
Quiet
Shy
Untrained
Needs
Cat Needs
Affection
Bladder
Bowel
Fun
Hunger
Hygiene
Scratch
Sleep
Thirst
Dog Needs
Affection
Bladder
Bowel
Exercise
Fun
Hunger
Hygiene
Sleep
Thirst
Horse Needs
Affection
Bladder
Bowel
Exercise
Hunger
Sleep
Thirst
Pet Interests
Animals & Bugs
Food
My Family/Pack
Outside
Playtime
Scary Things - Monsters, Scary Weather, Strangers, Loud Noises
Sleeping & Comfy Places
Toys
New Pet Related Community Lots
Dog Park - This place should have" Things to Do at the Dog Park
Expo/Competition Interior Space for Best in Show Contests, or Cat Fanciers, etc. with Restrooms & Concession
Get your Dog a drink at the water fountain or dog biscuit at the Doggie Vending Machine
Pets with injuries have bandages and even the "Cone of Shame"
Children can play doctor with their dog
Veterinarians will be able to treat all manner of animals pets and farm animals alike
Birds
Cats
Cattle
Dogs
Goats
Guinea Pigs
Horses
Rabbits
Sheep
Vet Clinic Services
Blood Donation
Genetic Testing
Heartworm Preventative
Micro-chips
Nail Trimming
Pet Licensing
Teeth Cleaning
Treating Sickness & Injuries
Vaccinations
Pet Jobs - Pet jobs should make their return
Actor - Cat
Actor - Dog
Actor - Horse
Fire Dog
Military Dog
Police Dog
Police Horse
Search & Rescue
Service Dog
Game Play
Training Pets
Cat Tricks
Use the Toilette
Dog Tricks
“Back Up”
Balance a treat on Nose
“Come”
“Commando” - Dog crawls on Belly
“Dance” - Dog will hop around in a circle happily
“Fetch”
“Give Kiss”
“Go to Bed”
“Go to”… Tell Dog Sim to go to
“Growl like a bear”
“High Five”
“Howl”
“Leave it”
“Lie Down”
“Nod Your Head”
“Play Dead”
“Roll Over”
“Shake Paws”
“Sit and Stay”
“Sit Up”
“Speak” Loudly
“Speak” Softly
“Take a Bow”
“Wave”
“Wipe Your Paws”
Horse Skills
Agility
Edurance
Jumping
Temperament
Pet Deaths
Broken Heart - Dog Specific Death - Has a 25% chance upon passing away if it has only 1 family member and that family member passes away.
Old Age
Fire
Meteor
Starvation
Pet Ghost Details
If both the owner and the pet are ghosts, the owner will pet it and/or play fetch if it's a dog.
Ghost pets also play with each other if they had a good relationship when they were both alive.
Ghost dogs will dig ghostly holes
Like ghost Sims, ghost pets can haunt objects such as microwaves.
Just like ghost Sims, ghost pets can build relationships with living Sims and are able to interact with other animals.
Ghost cats can hunt, claw scratching posts, ride robot vacuums
Ghost Horses can be ridden
Like Sims, pets can have ghost puppies, kittens, or foals. In order to do this, it is required to have a male ghost pet and a playable female pet if the player wishes the ghost puppies/kittens/foals to be playable.
Like Sims, if a pet's tombstone isn't visited often, their spirit will begin to fade away and will eventually cease to exist.
Ghost pets will have equivalent ghostly color as ghost Sims depending upon their level of happiness and manner of death
Pet jobs should provide outfits for the pet to switch to on their way to work. They should also get a carpool.
When a Spa Day type pack comes along it includes grooming for pets. Including painting the nails on paws. At a separate facility of course. If the Spa Day is done like the one in Sims 4 plus a bit of pet bathing and fur drying at a Groomers that should totally be worth the money.
It would also be nice to be able to knit or sew new clothes for the pets. If they are Base Game all sorts of things will apply to them.
Dogs, Cats and Horses all should have a chance to become ghosts when they die.
Cats, Cows, Dogs, Goats, Horses & Sheep can all drink from Creeks, Rivers Lakes & Ponds
Cattle & Horses make manure which can in turn be used for fertilizer
I would make a Pets Game Pack that focuses on Birds and the small pets. So all the cute bird interactions from Sims 2. The bird stand for the parrots and other pet birds.
If you have a Pet related pack AND a Get To Work style pack then you get the Pet Shop. Pet shops allow you to purchase gear for pets and get them groomed. You CANNOT purchase Dogs, Cats or Birds there.
Dogs can jump on Treadmills once taught how to run on them
I would love one of those little spheres for hamsters and guinea Pig to run around in
I think pet end of life things should also have options at the veterinarian. As a person who recently lost a pet I can say good vets are very kindly towards pet loss
Cats being able to climb some of the trees or seek higher places.
Cat & Dogs gravitating to fireplaces to lay by. Not only basking in the warmth but watching the flames.
It would be really cute if dogs and cats politely interacted with horses, cows, llamas, and sheep by sniffing them
Dogs should be able to be Ring Bearers at Weddings
Build/Buy Items for Pets or in Pets Game
Automatic Food Bowl
Bat House
Best in Show Stand
Bird Bath
Bird Cage - Small & Large
Bird Feeder
Bird House
Bird Stands & Trees
Cat Nip Toys
Cat Litter Box
Cat Scratching Post
Cat Trees
Cookie Jar for Pet Treats
Cow Scratching Post
Dog House
Art Deco
Castle Design
Colonial Design
DIY
Haunted House
Log Cabin
Sand Castle
Stucco Design with versions for Adobe, Greek, Moroccan, Spanish design homes
Victorian Design
Doggie Door
Dog Obstacle Course Sets
Dog Sanitation Stations for Dog Parks
Gates for Dog Parks
Equestrian Obstacle Course Items
Food Bowls
Fresh Water Fish Tank
Frisbees
Hamster Ball
Horse Ball - Basically a big ball that horses and perhaps cows can run around kicking and playing with
Horse Bed
Horse Hitch
Horse Stall Build Pieces
Feather Display for Museums or home collections
Pet Beds in Different Sizes
Cat & Small Dog Beds
Fancy Large Beds like in Sims 2
Fancy Small Beds
Pet Leash & Coat Hooks Decor Object
Pet Washing tub for Mud Rooms
Salt Water Fish Tank
Salt 🐸🐸🐸🐸
Terrariums - Lizards, Snakes & Turtles
Toy Box
Troughs (Water & Food) for Horses
Water Bowl
Water Fountain for Parks
Wipe Your Paws Styled Door Mat
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“All mushrooms are edible, but some only once.” Terry Pratchett
I don't think I really know what I think will be perfect for Sims 5. I'd like to have a game similar to The Sims 2 with updated graphics. That said, I have The Sims 2 and can just go play it if I have a desire to do so... When I go play Sims 2, I miss being able to multitask (the eating/drinking while on the toilet thing cracks me up) and I miss being able to drag and drop, push and pull, pick up and put down objects or entire buildings in Sims 4.
I also love the pure, hectic mess that can either reward you or burn your sims lives to the ground, that is Sims 1. ...The first time I accidentally killed a pregnant sim in that game because I didn't realize she needed to eat two to three times more often was both amazing and horrible at the same time. I loved the kitschy feel of the game and the design and it felt so light heartedly dark that I was hooked from the first moment.
...And 3! It was such an adventure to just run around that big open world exploring, tomb raiding, ghost hunting and living my sim-life...
TLdR: I guess I'd like to see a game that takes all the great parts from sims 1-4 and combines them into one great game.
Loving yourself is the most simple and complicated thing you can do for you.
I don't think I really know what I think will be perfect for Sims 5. I'd like to have a game similar to The Sims 2 with updated graphics. That said, I have The Sims 2 and can just go play it if I have a desire to do so... When I go play Sims 2, I miss being able to multitask (the eating/drinking while on the toilet thing cracks me up) and I miss being able to drag and drop, push and pull, pick up and put down objects or entire buildings in Sims 4.
I also love the pure, hectic mess that can either reward you or burn your sims lives to the ground, that is Sims 1. ...The first time I accidentally killed a pregnant sim in that game because I didn't realize she needed to eat two to three times more often was both amazing and horrible at the same time. I loved the kitschy feel of the game and the design and it felt so light heartedly dark that I was hooked from the first moment.
...And 3! It was such an adventure to just run around that big open world exploring, tomb raiding, ghost hunting and living my sim-life...
TLdR: I guess I'd like to see a game that takes all the great parts from sims 1-4 and combines them into one great game.
It's kind of what I was going for in my suggestions.
“All mushrooms are edible, but some only once.” Terry Pratchett
redrogue60,
A most impressive and comprehensive set of postings! Clearly a labor of love with great attention to detail and thorough research. If we got but a tenth of it, we would have the sims game of all sims games. A detail point, I live in maple country so know that gathering maple sap happens in the transition between late winter to early spring, not autumn. The photo captures it well.
redrogue60,
A most impressive and comprehensive set of postings! Clearly a labor of love with great attention to detail and thorough research. If we got but a tenth of it, we would have the sims game of all sims games. A detail point, I live in maple country so know that gathering maple sap happens in the transition between late winter to early spring, not autumn. The photo captures it well.
Oh bummer I looked it up and the information I got was in late Fall/Early winter. I'll try and get that fixed
Thank you for your kind words though!
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“All mushrooms are edible, but some only once.” Terry Pratchett
Customizable Western Zodiac: You could have party animal Capricorns, strict and serious Tauruses,etc.
Multi-purposes community lots(from Sims 1). Say "goodbye" to annoying and pointless checklists-you can do things like put an animal clinic/game arcade/spa/library on one lot!
Create-a-World(from Sims 2).
No more endless townie spawning. You get to have towns filled with just the Sims YOU create!
Sims would be more like the Sims from Sims 1: Staying put at home when you leave them. No more having to put up with wandering Sims that you have to go to the next world just to bring the Sims back home where they belong. When you leave your Sim at home,they'll be standing there the next time you play them. Sims will no longer have needs drop,for time freezes when you stop playing them.
No more pointless decor buildings or annoying Sims 3-type rabbit holes. You get to create your own buildings without having to conform to a certain style
Cats/Dogs/Rabbits/Birds/Reptiles/Ferrets/Fish will be available in base game. You can customize them with a color wheel.
Goats/horses/chickens/other farm animals with a rustic American farm world-you can customize farm animals with a color wheel.
Toddlers/ghosts/graveyards/pools/basements in the base game.
These musical instruments are in the base game: violin,banjo,different kinds of electric guitars,accordion,drums,saxophones,trumpets and pianos.
Sims 5 would be a mix of Sims 1-2 with a little bit of Sims 3-4 mixed in.
Sims would resemble the SFM style(the style you can see in FNAF/Team Fortress videos on Youtube).
Say "good-bye" to the boring fashion/cosmetics collabs-Sims 5 would do collabs with different things(like FNAF, PetsSMart,Toys-R-Us,7-11,John Deere,etc).
The Magic pack would be more like Sims 1 "Makin' Magic".
Home-schooling will be an option in kids' education.
A Sims 1-like vacation world(where you go camping, to the beach or to a winter activity resort).
A pack that's like Sims 3 "World Adventures"-you can go to 4 different worlds: Japan, Australia, England and Africa.
Say "Good-bye" to politically correct events-there will be "Christmas", " Santa Claus", "Easter","Day of the Dead", "Hanukkah", "Kwaanza" and other world holidays in Sims 5.
Werewolves/vampires/fairies/other occults will be in the base game.
Sick Sims will go to a doctor or the hospital if they're sick.
Sims 5 Create-a-Sim will have a background similar to Sims 2. Create-an-animal(pet/farm animal) will have a background similiar to Sims 3 pets.
You can fully customize apartments/festivals/holidays/clubs. No more boring apartment shells or boring repetitive festivals in Sims 5! You can have geek cons held in fall in different towns...you can build 7-story apartments and have every floor be occupied.You can even be a landord/landlady or run a festival booth if you want to!
You can create hotels/motels/inns and put them where you want to. If you want,you can be the manager of a hotel or motel,or you can be the innkeeper.
You can now follow your Sims to their jobs-you get to experience what it's like to work as a teacher,banker,dentist,etc.
EPS:
Theme parks/amusement parks/county fairs.You can customize and place these parks/fairs anywhere in the world.
Hollywood type EP: You can be an actor/actress,fashion model, animator, music star, or comedian.
@Lady_Ballora Your list is almost identical to mine! Except for the way sims look. I personally do not want the sims to be even more cartoonish than they already are. I am hoping for something a little more realistic and less fisher price, with non-clay hair, actual eyelashes, and no more painted on clothing.
Something similar to this .... you can tell it's not a RL person and it resembles TS4 (if you use CC and default skin) but there's much more detailing in the clothing, skin highlights, etc.
But, I'm expecting an even more dummied down version of TS4 that's entire vision is 50% "socialization" (AKA Multiplayer/Collabs) and 40% focusing on Building aspects and CAS, leaving the remaining 10% for gameplay.
So, I'm just not thinking about it or getting my hopes up. If it's just TS4.2, I'll stick to the original TS4 since I already own everything.
My Perfect Sims 5 in a land I call La La Land would have the following:
1. Seasons, Playable Babies, Tweens, Young Teens, Middle-Agers, Seniors age 60-70, Permanent Plantsims, Useful Ghosts that don't break things. Color Wheels/Color Slides, Height Slides, Round Walls, Spiral Stairs, all kinds of Transportations & Horses in Base
2. All worlds having about 15 to 30 lots
3. All hidden/vacation worlds can have residential lots
4. Spellcasters/Vampires/Werewolves in the same Occult Pack.
5. Grade School/Junior High School/High School/College/University in the same School Pack
6. Mermaids & Genies in the same Island Pack, also a Castaway Adventure play in the pack
7. Ancient Times World
8. Medieval World
9. Georgian World
10. Victorian World
11. Olden Days Western World
12. 1920's World
13. 1940's World
14. 1960's World
15. Futuristic World
16. Careers/Hobbies of Astronauts, Scientists, Engineers, Secret Agents, Inventors, Mystics, Horse Shoe Persons, Mechanics, etc
17. Venues of Saloons, Stables, Ball Dancing, Seasonal Holiday Party Festivals
18. All cellphones can be toggles off completely
19. Single Player only
20. Has all the best fun stuff from Sims 2, 3 & 4 in the game
21. Better than Disney Dreamlight Valley & Civilization VI if possible
@Lady_Ballora Your list is almost identical to mine! Except for the way sims look. I personally do not want the sims to be even more cartoonish than they already are. I am hoping for something a little more realistic and less fisher price, with non-clay hair, actual eyelashes, and no more painted on clothing.
Something similar to this .... you can tell it's not a RL person and it resembles TS4 (if you use CC and default skin) but there's much more detailing in the clothing, skin highlights, etc.
But, I'm expecting an even more dummied down version of TS4 that's entire vision is 50% "socialization" (AKA Multiplayer/Collabs) and 40% focusing on Building aspects and CAS, leaving the remaining 10% for gameplay.
So, I'm just not thinking about it or getting my hopes up. If it's just TS4.2, I'll stick to the original TS4 since I already own everything.
We appear to be on the same wavelength, nice to know am not alone. Their announced priorities scare me. Game play, and what enables that to happen are what make a game a game. The rest is useless twaddle. Like your idea of sim appearance quality, a nice balance between real and how they are now.
Dear God, how long did it take to make this? This list is incredible.
Oh I've been thinking about this for the better part of a few years
Section 17 - Radio Stations, Potential Songs & Music in General
Radio Stations - I would like to keep the ease of being able to add music to the game and in fact I would love to be able to make my own radio stations. So if I want to make my own Cajun restaurant I can have Zydeco on the radio if not otherwise added by the creators. I also love ambiance type music that fits certain places like spooky ambiance music in spooky places.
20's - Jazz from the Roaring 20's sound as if it was recorded then
Alternative Rock
Amusement Park/Carnival Ambiance
Big Band & Swing - 40's
Blues
Christmas/Snowflake Day/Winter Holiday - simlish versions of classic holiday songs
The only thing I really want in Sims 5 is for Plant Sims to no longer be a temporary life stage. I loved Plant Sims so much in Sims 2 and the way they were implemented in Sims 4 bugs me so much. I honestly doubt it'll happen, but for some reason it always comes to my mind when I think about Sims 5.
List of Great Potential Club, Team and Holiday Icons, Even some Tattoos
Club Notes: Sims 4 did a wonderful job with clubs with one exception. If you do the clubs again please do your best to make sure that when you introduce activities in later packs that you update the offering in the clubs (Icons, activities the club partakes in, etc.) as would make sense. For example let's say you introduce clubs in the second pack and in the fifth pack you introduce sewing. As a part of the sewing skill you also update the potential icons for clubs to include a sewing machine, a Needle and thread, a dress & pant, and a quilt club icons. You also add sewing and gossiping (because thats what sewing circles do) as group activities.
Club Icons
Ace of Spades
All Seeing Eye
Anubis
Aphrodite on the Half Shell
Arcade Machine
Axe & Log
Bag of Popcorn
Baked Pie with Steam Rising
Barbell
Baseball Bat & baseball
Basket Ball
Beach Ball
Ballerina
Bear Roaring
Bell, Book & Candle
Black Cat
Binoculars
Bird - Blue Jay
Bird - Robin Red Breast
Book & Cup of Coffee
Bouquet of Flowers
Bowling Ball & Pin
Bucket, Mop and Scrub Brush
Butterfly - Monarch
Butterfly Net
Camping Tent
Castle Keep
Cat wearing a prize medal
Chessboard
Chess Piece
Christmas Tree
Classic Car
Comedy & Tragedy Masks
Compass
Conque Shell
Court Jester
Cowboy Hat
Cup of Coffee
Crystal Ball
Cupid with his Bow
Dara Knot
Dart & Dart Board
Deer Stalker Hat
Dice
Diploma
Dog Bone
Dog Wearing a Carnation Garland with Tika on its Head
Dog Wearing a Prize Medal
Domino
Dove
Dradel
Dress & Pants
Dhyana
Easel
Easter Egg
Easter Rabbit
Ensō
Fedora, Bullwhip and Trowel
Fire Hydrant
Fire Pit
Fishing Pole
Four Leaf Clover
Fu Dogs
Garden Maze
Garden Trowel
Gargoyle
Ghost
Guitar
Harlequin Mask
Heart
Herbs with a Mortar & Pestle
Hiking Boots
Holly
Horse Jumping an Obstacle
Horseshoe
Hot Spring
Howling Wolf
Hula Dancer
Ice Skates
Island Spirit
Jack O' Lantern
Jolly Roger Flag
Knitting Needles & Ball of Yard
Laughing Buddha
Lily
Loaf of Bread
Lotus Flower
Magnifying Glass
Marble Statue
Marotte
Masquerade Mask
Maypole
Meditating Sim
Menorah
Metal Detector
Mistletoe
Mortar Board
Motorcycle
Mushroom
Mustang Horse
Needle & Thread
New Years Noise Makers
Nutcracker
Oak Leaf
Orchid
Owl
Party Hat
Peace Symbol
Peregrin Falcon
Person Climbing a Rock Face
Person Swimming
Piano Keys
Poinsettia
Polar Bear
Pool Table, Cue Stick and Billiard Balls
Postage Stamp
Pot of Gold
Potters Wheel
Pumpkin
Pyramid
Queen of Hearts
Quilt
Rainbow
Rake & Leaf pile
Raven
Rebate Symbol
Roasted Turkey
Robot
Rose - Black
Rose - Red
Rose - Yellow
Royal Flush Hand
Rune Stone
Scout Uniform
Sailboat Symbol
Sand Castle
Scarecrow
Scouts Honor Symbol
Scuba Diver
Sewing Machine
Shark Tooth
Sim wearing a facial mask with cucumbers over the eyes
Sim wearing a Toga
Sim shooting with a bow and arrow
Sims shooting a rifle (for skeet)
Sim wearing a fencing costume and a rapier
Skis
Snowboard
Snow Flake Ice Sculpture
Soccer Ball
Sugar Skull
Suit of Armor
Swordfish
Tarot Cards
Telescope
Theatre Stage
Tomoe
Tooth
Top Hat
Topiary
Treasure Chest
Treasure Map
Tree
Trident
Triskelion
Tulips
Two People Dancing
Two people at podiums - Debate
Two Sims about to spar in martial arts
Umbrella
Whisk & Bowl
Wish Bone
Witches Cauldron
Wrapped Gift with Bow
Vampire Bat
Violin
Volcano
Volley Ball
Yacht Symbol
Yoga Pose
Zen Rock Garden
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“All mushrooms are edible, but some only once.” Terry Pratchett
I would say more careers is a must! And more career branches! Like if you're a teacher you can branch into Music, Arts, Logic, Writing etc... And schools could give children and teens elective course options like the Sims 3 universities and you can start building up their skills early on. It would make the sims more fleshed out and have more personality.
Love the idea of kids and teens learning skills in school. I've also always wanted the homework to be a little more specific than just do homework. Maybe a different homework subject every day that would contribute to skill learning.
Comments
Just a suggestion, but could you maybe put your pics in spoilers so your text doesn't get lost? You might have more people respond to your post if they could actually get the page to load.
I would also recommend you write a table of contents at the beginning that lists out all of the sections, heads, and subheaders. I'm struggling to parse through the posts.
Then the whole thing will be nothing but spoilers.
Exactly, spoilers make the post collapsible and you can expand the content as you read it.
Repose en paix mamie tu va me manquer :
1923-2016 mamie
**CAW, palette maker, colour wheel, tattoo maker**
Automobiles that function even if only buses, cabs, airplanes, trains and boats when Sims travel
**More hobbies and skill build objects most appropriate for age of lifestyle**
Occults bring all back with a skill tree and have aliens able to visit their home planet or an alien planet world we can play not like Batuu, mermaids able to live underwater and they and other sims can go there like in TS3
**Lifestages: newborn up to 6months old, infant up to yr old, toddler up to 1 - 3 yrs old, pre school up to 3 - 5 yrs old, child 5 - 9 yrs old, pre teen up to 10 - 12 yrs old. teen up to 13 - 19, YA 20 - 29 yrs old, Adult 30 - 44, mid life 45 - 64, Elder 65+**
**More commercial lots bring back hotels and multi use lots, shopping malls and plazas, and various residential builds like the previous apartments or multi housing builds like duplex, townhouses**
**More community lots amusement parks, fairs and more stuff to do in them**
**Schools for all ages not just the high school and university**
More careers for full time and part time, odd jobs a temp agency
**No more rabbit holes where you can't travel with your sim**
**No mobile unless a small version of the full game**
**No micro transactions like with most mobile games**
**No multi user unless able to choose who plays in your worlds save files etc
**Gallery but able to have the option to search world, occult sims, sex, life stage when
Either new skill, hobby, school subject, career or odd job with every EP, GP and SP that fits in that pack's theme
Have all packs work with older packs
Don't forget about the older packs maybe a Sims delivery with updates or couple days after the new pack release
**Invite members of the community to test packs, like you are doing in this alpha test period after releasing to public**
**Scenarios with an option to create our own**
One word : "Male" (Lifestyle and CAS content)
The Sims 4 Ideas Corner
- 👕 [CAS] Male content | 💰 §1 Million Lifestyle | ♂️ Man lifestyle for The Sims | ♻️ Content from The Sims
- 🔨 [Build/Buy Mode] Ideas | 📱 Ideas from The Sims FreePlay | ✈️ Vacation : Gameplay update | 🥦 New meals
The Sims 4 General DiscussionIs there a particular life stage you like to play without aging?
Pet CAS
Cat Breeds - I don't expect all to be represented but I gave a handy guide for where new breeds could be introduced via new zones.
Dog Breeds
Companion Birds If you aren't going to make these birds unique from each other please don't bother to make them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St-yQZ2Msvs&list=RDCMUC6xUKNWGlU_5zSZoWWPnyCw&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF7xTTvU2sM&t=121s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ9Ez0pFmCk
Bird Details
Horse Breeds
Unicorns
Unicorns Magic
Ability colors list
Types of Wild Animals
I think it would be nice to toss bird seed to pigeons in the park or nuts to squirrels
Types of Wild Aquatic Animals
Pet Clothing Categories
Cat Traits
Dog Traits
Horse Traits
Needs
Cat Needs
Dog Needs
Horse Needs
Pet Interests
New Pet Related Community Lots
Dog Park - This place should have"
Things to Do at the Dog Park
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKrwnoa-hMI
Park Related Equipment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZSIFekthRM
Pet Store & Groomers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odEVi59ATfk
Related Items
Dog Cookies
Veterinarian Clinic
Vet Clinic Services
Pet Jobs - Pet jobs should make their return
Game Play
Training Pets
Cat Tricks
Dog Tricks
Horse Skills
Pet Deaths
Pet Ghost Details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUUQMpiIUb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBJQ1VioyI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOPkF0o3skY
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W3Iidf0gpUU
Build/Buy Items for Pets or in Pets Game
I also love the pure, hectic mess that can either reward you or burn your sims lives to the ground, that is Sims 1. ...The first time I accidentally killed a pregnant sim in that game because I didn't realize she needed to eat two to three times more often was both amazing and horrible at the same time. I loved the kitschy feel of the game and the design and it felt so light heartedly dark that I was hooked from the first moment.
...And 3! It was such an adventure to just run around that big open world exploring, tomb raiding, ghost hunting and living my sim-life...
TLdR: I guess I'd like to see a game that takes all the great parts from sims 1-4 and combines them into one great game.
It's kind of what I was going for in my suggestions.
A most impressive and comprehensive set of postings! Clearly a labor of love with great attention to detail and thorough research. If we got but a tenth of it, we would have the sims game of all sims games. A detail point, I live in maple country so know that gathering maple sap happens in the transition between late winter to early spring, not autumn. The photo captures it well.
Oh bummer I looked it up and the information I got was in late Fall/Early winter. I'll try and get that fixed
Thank you for your kind words though!
Customizable Western Zodiac: You could have party animal Capricorns, strict and serious Tauruses,etc.
Multi-purposes community lots(from Sims 1). Say "goodbye" to annoying and pointless checklists-you can do things like put an animal clinic/game arcade/spa/library on one lot!
Create-a-World(from Sims 2).
No more endless townie spawning. You get to have towns filled with just the Sims YOU create!
Sims would be more like the Sims from Sims 1: Staying put at home when you leave them. No more having to put up with wandering Sims that you have to go to the next world just to bring the Sims back home where they belong. When you leave your Sim at home,they'll be standing there the next time you play them. Sims will no longer have needs drop,for time freezes when you stop playing them.
No more pointless decor buildings or annoying Sims 3-type rabbit holes. You get to create your own buildings without having to conform to a certain style
Cats/Dogs/Rabbits/Birds/Reptiles/Ferrets/Fish will be available in base game. You can customize them with a color wheel.
Goats/horses/chickens/other farm animals with a rustic American farm world-you can customize farm animals with a color wheel.
Toddlers/ghosts/graveyards/pools/basements in the base game.
These musical instruments are in the base game: violin,banjo,different kinds of electric guitars,accordion,drums,saxophones,trumpets and pianos.
Sims 5 would be a mix of Sims 1-2 with a little bit of Sims 3-4 mixed in.
Sims would resemble the SFM style(the style you can see in FNAF/Team Fortress videos on Youtube).
Say "good-bye" to the boring fashion/cosmetics collabs-Sims 5 would do collabs with different things(like FNAF, PetsSMart,Toys-R-Us,7-11,John Deere,etc).
The Magic pack would be more like Sims 1 "Makin' Magic".
Home-schooling will be an option in kids' education.
A Sims 1-like vacation world(where you go camping, to the beach or to a winter activity resort).
A pack that's like Sims 3 "World Adventures"-you can go to 4 different worlds: Japan, Australia, England and Africa.
Say "Good-bye" to politically correct events-there will be "Christmas", " Santa Claus", "Easter","Day of the Dead", "Hanukkah", "Kwaanza" and other world holidays in Sims 5.
Werewolves/vampires/fairies/other occults will be in the base game.
Sick Sims will go to a doctor or the hospital if they're sick.
Sims 5 Create-a-Sim will have a background similar to Sims 2. Create-an-animal(pet/farm animal) will have a background similiar to Sims 3 pets.
You can fully customize apartments/festivals/holidays/clubs. No more boring apartment shells or boring repetitive festivals in Sims 5! You can have geek cons held in fall in different towns...you can build 7-story apartments and have every floor be occupied.You can even be a landord/landlady or run a festival booth if you want to!
You can create hotels/motels/inns and put them where you want to. If you want,you can be the manager of a hotel or motel,or you can be the innkeeper.
You can now follow your Sims to their jobs-you get to experience what it's like to work as a teacher,banker,dentist,etc.
EPS:
Theme parks/amusement parks/county fairs.You can customize and place these parks/fairs anywhere in the world.
Hollywood type EP: You can be an actor/actress,fashion model, animator, music star, or comedian.
Something similar to this .... you can tell it's not a RL person and it resembles TS4 (if you use CC and default skin) but there's much more detailing in the clothing, skin highlights, etc.
But, I'm expecting an even more dummied down version of TS4 that's entire vision is 50% "socialization" (AKA Multiplayer/Collabs) and 40% focusing on Building aspects and CAS, leaving the remaining 10% for gameplay.
So, I'm just not thinking about it or getting my hopes up. If it's just TS4.2, I'll stick to the original TS4 since I already own everything.
1. Seasons, Playable Babies, Tweens, Young Teens, Middle-Agers, Seniors age 60-70, Permanent Plantsims, Useful Ghosts that don't break things. Color Wheels/Color Slides, Height Slides, Round Walls, Spiral Stairs, all kinds of Transportations & Horses in Base
2. All worlds having about 15 to 30 lots
3. All hidden/vacation worlds can have residential lots
4. Spellcasters/Vampires/Werewolves in the same Occult Pack.
5. Grade School/Junior High School/High School/College/University in the same School Pack
6. Mermaids & Genies in the same Island Pack, also a Castaway Adventure play in the pack
7. Ancient Times World
8. Medieval World
9. Georgian World
10. Victorian World
11. Olden Days Western World
12. 1920's World
13. 1940's World
14. 1960's World
15. Futuristic World
16. Careers/Hobbies of Astronauts, Scientists, Engineers, Secret Agents, Inventors, Mystics, Horse Shoe Persons, Mechanics, etc
17. Venues of Saloons, Stables, Ball Dancing, Seasonal Holiday Party Festivals
18. All cellphones can be toggles off completely
19. Single Player only
20. Has all the best fun stuff from Sims 2, 3 & 4 in the game
21. Better than Disney Dreamlight Valley & Civilization VI if possible
We appear to be on the same wavelength, nice to know am not alone. Their announced priorities scare me. Game play, and what enables that to happen are what make a game a game. The rest is useless twaddle. Like your idea of sim appearance quality, a nice balance between real and how they are now.
Oh I've been thinking about this for the better part of a few years
Section 17 - Radio Stations, Potential Songs & Music in General
Radio Stations - I would like to keep the ease of being able to add music to the game and in fact I would love to be able to make my own radio stations. So if I want to make my own Cajun restaurant I can have Zydeco on the radio if not otherwise added by the creators. I also love ambiance type music that fits certain places like spooky ambiance music in spooky places.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdWQyeAH0Ig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHPBCLnLAWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPYHy8k9Z34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3VeMzcpgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGbGbzHLpz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1TnAPNBV7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtLlmrrCajA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkutSAlNUdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71fZhMXlGT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px4wBfficJw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiS-hvQUbDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzP9xDYQ7K4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa8vyTfugcI
Caroling Songs and Recognizable Songs for Sims to Sing - A lot of these songs are public domain.
I really want Sims to be able to go door to door and sing carols as well as by the Piano or Christmas Tree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfO_OfmGOl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK2DePGkEos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOqr9wWxxF8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuNaegwHnGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPXkVf5zdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAEnW9UJQUY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZANKFxrcKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wmwWLwhmTU
List of Great Potential Club, Team and Holiday Icons, Even some Tattoos
Club Notes: Sims 4 did a wonderful job with clubs with one exception. If you do the clubs again please do your best to make sure that when you introduce activities in later packs that you update the offering in the clubs (Icons, activities the club partakes in, etc.) as would make sense. For example let's say you introduce clubs in the second pack and in the fifth pack you introduce sewing. As a part of the sewing skill you also update the potential icons for clubs to include a sewing machine, a Needle and thread, a dress & pant, and a quilt club icons. You also add sewing and gossiping (because thats what sewing circles do) as group activities.
Club Icons