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Wants & Fears Discussion Thread
simmerorigin
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I wanted to make a dedicated thread to talk about the Wants & Fears addition to the base game now that it is released.
1) People have issues with the kinds of wants occurring and say there is little variety or are illogical.
Hopefully, this is helpful! @SimGuruGeorge @SimGuruNova @SimGuruNick @SimGuruLyndsay @SimGuruAzure @SimGuruArvin @SimGuruFrost @SimGuruGraham @SimGuruNinja @SimGuruRomeo
Lunar_Britney on X recently created a mockup of what a true Wants and Fears system, with aspiration meter and lifetime wish, would look like - all in a single UI panel!
Summary of Key Feedback in this Thread
1) People have issues with the kinds of wants occurring and say there is little variety or are illogical.
- many musical preferences lead to an overwhelming amount of music wants i.e. no apparent hard cap on % frequency
- illogical and intrusive wants, e.g. want to be actively disliked by a sim followed by another want to be friends with this sim
- causes severe issues when you play with sims using traits and aspirations not in the base game or High School - only get generic wants
- when they do work, wants are relevant to the traits and personality of the sims, which people liked
- no context-dependent wants, such as university students getting university-related wants
- wants like listening to music, playing video games, pouring a drink are NOT larger goals that many loved in the Sims 2
- these action wants are similar to what Sims would do autonomously with the AI, so some don't see the point and desire more sophisticated wants
- buying a potion is a pro for some. Others missed dynamic slot-machine "rolling" and locking of wants from the Sims 2
- game not recognizing/ checking for family relationships before generating romantic wants
- fears locking the ability to do things like lighting a fire with no clear way to overcome the fear
- fears potentially getting stuck
- some preferred the way Sims 2 handled fears
- Sim who just got promoted in their career [culinary] tied to their aspiration [master chef] getting a fear of being in a dead-end job
Hopefully, this is helpful! @SimGuruGeorge @SimGuruNova @SimGuruNick @SimGuruLyndsay @SimGuruAzure @SimGuruArvin @SimGuruFrost @SimGuruGraham @SimGuruNinja @SimGuruRomeo
Lunar_Britney on X recently created a mockup of what a true Wants and Fears system, with aspiration meter and lifetime wish, would look like - all in a single UI panel!
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Edit: One hour later and still no fear. Is it supposed to be triggered by bad experiences or what?
Two of my eight sims developed a fear of fire after the fire, one of the too also got a want to extinguish the fire (I think that's the type of want that will help sims to conquer their fears).
But currently there are not a lot of fears.
What I don’t understand is what happens if a fear is actualized? For example, if your sim has a fear of fire and then a fire starts on the lot, are there any consequences? What’s the point?
Your wants are where the whims used to be. I'm still figuring out fears since I haven't had one yet.
I believe they show up in the whims section and also in traits
I’m disappointed too as George indicated in a tweet that wasn’t the case. Now I assume he must have meant base game and not previous packs. I’m sad 😔.
Not the fact that it was Jazz, but because it was based off one of her likes. This is what I wanted most for Whims (now Wants).
It helps bring out their personalities.
I went through my current household and all their likes were about things related to traits, aspirations, relationships, and likes.
Nothing about Bee Boxes or 1 x 1 pools.
What I don't like is they removed the cancel feature and they expect you to buy a potion to cancel the want.
Talk about short-sighted, so what if you roll another Want that you don't want? Are you going to buy another potion?
No, so it's a feature that few people will actually use, or use very sparingly.
That must be there because the amount of wants are actually limited and it will keep you from seeing how quickly they roll the same wants again.
> I'm not seeing any wants and fears in my game since the update or no sexuality options in CAS.
The sexuality options I did find, under the male female symbols where it says Customize Gender
Thank you. I had to enable CAS.fulleditmode to see this in current households.
Not my twitter.. just someone with same issue
Unfourtunately I just happen to be playing a music loving couple and I am getting a ton of wants to listen to the stereo. They both only have a few favourite music types but they constantly get the want to listen to the stereo. Hopefully this can be tuned down a bit in the future so they roll some other wants more often.