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  • simgirl1010simgirl1010 Posts: 35,862 Member
    edited July 2021
    Thought it would be fun to get some background on some of the new recipes coming in Cottage Living.

    Starting with Yorkshire Pudding.

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    Yorkshire pudding is a common English side dish, a baked pudding made from a batter of eggs, flour, and milk or water. It is a versatile food that can be served in numerous ways depending on the choice of ingredients, the size of the pudding, and the accompanying components of the dish. As a first course, it can be served with onion gravy. For a main course, it may be served with beef and gravy, and is part of the traditional Sunday roast, but can also be filled with foods such as bangers and mash to make a meal. Sausages can be added to make toad in the hole.

    Originally, the Yorkshire pudding was served as a first course with thick gravy to dull the appetite with the low-cost ingredients so that the diners would not eat so much of the more expensive meat in the next course. Because the rich gravy from the roast meat drippings was used with the first course, the main meat and vegetable course was often served with a parsley or white sauce. In poorer households, the pudding was often served as the only course.

    The Yorkshire pudding is meant to rise. The Royal Society of Chemistry suggested in 2008 that "A Yorkshire pudding isn't a Yorkshire pudding if it is less than four inches [10 cm] tall".

    In a 2012 poll conducted by T-Mobile UK, the Yorkshire pudding was ranked tenth in a list of things people love about Britain.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkshire_pudding
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  • SPARKY1922SPARKY1922 Posts: 5,965 Member
    edited July 2021
    Yorkshire pudding making requires a real skill believe it or not and while yorkshire people pretend they are not in competition with each other over recipes and cooking them secretly they often are lol

    A yorkshire pudding should be light and airy not stodgy at the bottom which is not easy to achieve (well not for me anyway-) years ago it was served as a sort of starter alone but the majority or people eat them with their sunday roast main meal now. My niece also eats hers with jam or treacle on them when they have gone cold yuk! lol

    I am excited to see them represented in the game regardless of how they are presented :)
  • simgirl1010simgirl1010 Posts: 35,862 Member
    @SPARKY1922 thanks for the comments. 🙂

    If anyone sees any misinformation please feel free to point it out. Or add any first hand knowledge of the recipes.
  • SPARKY1922SPARKY1922 Posts: 5,965 Member
    @simgirl1010

    You are welcome I was brought up in yorkshire the supposed home of the Yorkshire pudding but all areas of the UK have yorkshire pudding in their DNA I suspect lol as it tends to be a countrywide thing-) I cannot cook them for toffee but my mothers were something special when she was alive. I have friend who is a chef and makes fantastic yorkshire puddings. She often brings frozen ones of hers over for me when she visits. I can get her recipe in the next couple days and post it if you think anyone would be interested? You are right that people often make a large tin of yorkshire pudding and add sausages, herbs and all sorts of different things to make it a meal as well. I travelled a lot but learned never to tell anyone I was from yorkshire because they would invite me to their homes and ask me if I could cook the yorkshire puddings for them haha After the first nightmare I never did it again :)
  • KayeStarKayeStar Posts: 6,715 Member
    edited July 2021
    Give. Me. THE BUNNIES!

    Just say sims can keep them as pets and I will be a happy blossom. I have waited too long for a game to have rabbits.

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  • elanorbretonelanorbreton Posts: 14,549 Member
    I miss Yorkshire puddings. Sadly not a gluten free staple. Along with yummalicious pork pie! All the best things have gluten in them :(
  • simgirl1010simgirl1010 Posts: 35,862 Member
    edited July 2021
    @SPARKY1922 a recipe would be great! â˜ș Wonder what ingredients will be required to make it in game. Also wondering what US dish comes closest to Yorkshire pudding.
  • elanorbretonelanorbreton Posts: 14,549 Member
    @simgirl1010 probably some kind of pancake
  • SPARKY1922SPARKY1922 Posts: 5,965 Member
    edited July 2021
    @simgirl1010

    While most yorkshire pudding recipes often sound the same different connoisseurs use different ingredients/methods to make the yorkshire pudding rise correctly without the stodge and my friends yorkshire puds are definitely that sort of quality so I have just text her and asked her for her recipe. I know she is at work right now but as soon as she texts me back I will post the exact recipe for you that she uses in the restaurant. I am also interested what ingredients they will use in game as I hope the team have got it right-) When I speak to one of my US friends in the next couple of days (illinois state) I will ask her what she thinks the closest food they have there to yorkshire puddings as she knows about them as she regularly travels to Ireland where they still serve them as well :)

    until I get further info back from my us friend i found something called popover that wikipedia states is close to a yorkshire pudding in the USA?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popover

    @elanorbreton

    I understand your predicament but if it's one thing I know about friends who have been on alternate diets in my life is that if they loved something that much they always found ways to be able to keep eating whatever they love so maybe you could find a suitable gluten free flour with a similar consistency to ordinary flour that might produce a decent enough version of a yorkshire pudding? I have noticed that they do sell gluten free pork pies in our supermarkets so I am presuming you might have tried those and found them not so good? I also notice they sell frozen gluten free yorkshire puddings as well but as I have not tried them personally I am not sure what they are like?
  • Amapola76Amapola76 Posts: 1,904 Member
    edited July 2021
    @SPARKY1922 a recipe would be great! â˜ș Wonder what ingredients will be required to make it in game. Also wondering what US dish comes closest to Yorkshire pudding.

    Popovers are often described as being the closest thing to a Yorkshire pudding in America. Though you can eat them plain, buttered, with gravy, or fill them with all kinds of things. (Regardless of how similar they are, they are definitely delicious!)

    https://www.mashed.com/335382/the-real-difference-between-popovers-and-yorkshire-pudding/

    They're kind of a regional thing, though. I never heard of them growing up, but discovered them when I went to school in New England (and fell so in love that I immediately had to buy the special pan).
  • SPARKY1922SPARKY1922 Posts: 5,965 Member
    edited July 2021
    @Amapola76

    That's definitely a good website for comparing yorkshire pudding and popovers however the site appears to think the differences between cooking yorkshire puddings and popovers is in the fat that is used to cook them. They state yorkshire puddings are cooked using hot fat from a cooked roast or cold dripping (cold roast meat fat) and While I remember my father used to love dipping bread into hot roast fat straight from a roast in the oven I don't remember my mother using that fat to make yorkshire pudding and today's generation would almost definitely use a more healthy alternative of oil to cook yorkshire puddings now anyway.

    I have looked at several popover recipes and none of them mention requiring hot fat/oil in the pan to cook them so I am not sure if your specialist pans allow you to cook them without hot fat/oil? A yorkshire pudding requires almost smoking hot oil in the pan before adding the batter as this helps the yorkshire puddings rise and stop the bottom of them become stodgy. It can also make parts of the yorkshire pudding crispy which a lot of people enjoy as well. Also never open an oven door when cooking yorkshires as any change in temperature can cause them to go flat.

    I am pleased you found that you enjoy your countries version of yorkies :)
  • Amapola76Amapola76 Posts: 1,904 Member
    edited July 2021
    @Amapola76

    That's definitely a good website for comparing yorkshire pudding and popovers however the site appears to think the differences between cooking yorkshire puddings and popovers is in the fat that is used to cook them. They state yorkshire puddings are cooked using hot fat from a cooked roast or cold dripping (cold roast meat fat) and While I remember my father used to love dipping bread into hot roast fat straight from a roast in the oven I don't remember my mother using that fat to make yorkshire pudding and today's generation would almost definitely use a more healthy alternative of oil to cook yorkshire puddings now anyway.

    I have looked at several popover recipes and none of them mention requiring hot fat/oil in the pan to cook them so I am not sure if your specialist pans allow you to cook them without hot fat/oil? A yorkshire pudding requires almost smoking hot oil in the pan before adding the batter as this helps the yorkshire puddings rise and stop the bottom of them become stodgy. It can also make parts of the yorkshire pudding crispy which a lot of people enjoy as well. Also never open an oven door when cooking yorkshires as any change in temperature can cause them to go flat.

    I am pleased you found that you enjoy your countries version of yorkies :)

    Yep, I looked at a few different articles to post a link, and that one seemed the most on point, but I didn't feel any of them fully captured the difference as I remembered it.

    I think the pan is what makes them a slightly different size and shape than yorkshire puddings; I've seen recipes that say you can improvise without the pan, but they won't rise as much or be as light and airy. Most of the recipes I've seen call for using butter at the bottom of the pan; I think I tend to prefer hot butter, but it's been a couple of years since I made them. And yes, leaving the oven door shut is crucial with popovers as well. I think they're both sort of distant cousins to a souffle. Honestly, anything based around lots of eggs and gluten and butter is well on the road to being delicious, imo. I could get by with a simple lot challenge in a place like HoB very well IRL. :D
  • SPARKY1922SPARKY1922 Posts: 5,965 Member
    edited July 2021
    @Amapola76

    Now you have indicated that butter is used at the bottom of the popover pan to cook them that means apart from individual cooks that like to do/cook these 2 similar recipes their way I think they are almost identical and agree delicious when done right :) As @simgirl1010 points out it will be good to see what sort of recipes and ingredients sims use in game to make the yorkies/popovers :)
  • simgirl1010simgirl1010 Posts: 35,862 Member
    SPOILERS ahead.

    COTTAGE LIVING - OVERSIZED CROPS OVERVIEW



    If size matters, we’re all in luck because these veggies get BIG

    Fresh out of CAS, growing oversized crops can be a bit of a tedious and expensive undertaking. Unlike other plants that can be placed straight into the ground to grow, giant crops will require their own specific garden plot. The game offers two alternatives (raised bed or flat) for §10 each.

    Normal crops can also be grown in these plots - however, much like the traditional planter boxes, there’s a limit of four plants to a plot.

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    From these plots, sims are able to make a few different purchases. First and foremost, they’ll want to buy some jars of oversized crop seeds!

    Aubergines / §15
    Lettuce / §10
    Mushrooms / §15
    Pumpkins / §20
    Watermelons / §25
    (For players with Seasons installed, there are no seasonal requirements for oversized crops.)

    If your sim is on a budget or even just cheap, this will be all they need to start growing. But without spending some extra simoleons, it’s unlikely they’ll be able to produce high quality, oversized crops. That’s where fertilizer comes in!

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    The wildlife in Henford-on-Bagley is more than happy to help out, so you may find a few special ways to fertilize your prized plants. 👀

    Even at the height of the gardening skill, only two fertilizers will be available to purchase from clicking on a plot.

    Hassle Free Fertilizer - this fertilizer was built for the busy crop gardener who just needs more time. this formula is scientifically guaranteed to stop weed growth and keep bugs away! Simply sprinkle this fertilizer over your crops once every few days and remember to water your plants.
    Vitality Fertilizer - is your crop plant looking sickly, or does its fruit need a little help reaching higher quality? look no further! sprinkle this fertilizer over your field once a day for a nice boost to the health of your plant and the quality of its yield.
    Thankfully, there’s more available! My sim received fertilizers from cleaning the chicken coop, cleaning the cow + llama barns, shopping at the garden stall, and even running errands around town.
    Minor Growth Fertilizer - when your crop size needs a modest boost, look no further than this fertilizer. a daily dose can help encourage larger crops, or at least put a little extra heft on existing crops.
    Grow-Fast Fertilizer - for when crops need growing fast. a daily dose of this fertilizer will accelerate any crop through its life cycle and ready for harvest in time for that competition!
    Hyper Growth Fertilizer - the finest formula of crop growth fertilizers. a daily dose of this stuff will put rocket boosters on your plant’s size, or at the very least kick the crop’s weight into overdrive!
    Super Vitality Fertilizer - are you looking to supercharge the health of your crop? sprinkle a daily dose of this fertilizer to make sure your plant is as healthy as possible and yields the highest quality crops.

    With plants in the ground, all that’s left to do is wait! Your sim can pass the time by taking selfies with the plants (once they’re big enough!), giving them encouragement to grow, or telling them some truly spectacular puns. My personal favorite - urge to romaine calm. đŸ€Ą

    Sometime on their third or fourth day, the little sprouts will finally become recognizable - and even better, you’ll know just how many giant crops you’ll be getting!

    Despite the name, there are three different sizes when growing - small, medium, and oversized. As they mature, the number of plants in each plot will reflect the number of harvestable crops. Plots with one crop will be oversized, two crops will be medium sized, etc.

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    n a poor attempt to determine the potency of fertilizers, I decided to run a test. My sim purchased four garden plots, and then planted two plots of lettuce and two plots of aubergines.

    Because I wanted some big beefy 🍆, the two plots of aubergines received the absolute best care I could provide - top tier daily fertilizer and lots of encouragement. One plot of lettuce was given a single dose of fertilizer and the other was left alone, minus the routine watering.

    (I did have some bunnies on the lot helping out! I’m assuming this also impacted the results, but I’m just not sure).

    At the end of a week, my sim spent a total of §1,150 on plots, seeds, and fertilizer. If she sold her produce, she would have received §2,384 - making a profit of §1,234! But more importantly, I was left with some pretty vital information - fertilize your crops.

    One medium head of unfertilized (but still perfect quality!) lettuce sold for §132, while the oversized lettuce sold for significantly more - §600!

    Keeping in mind that this oversized lettuce only received one dose of §50 fertilizer, it definitely pays off to spend a little!

    So you’ve got a garden full of comically large vegetables - what now?

    Obviously, as shown above, it does pay well to sell them. But if your sim is living on a lot with the new ‘Simple Living’ lot challenge active, it might just be better to keep them!

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    In either case, there’s a lot to be done with oversized crops. And here’s where the phrase ‘just because you can, doesn’t mean you should’ comes into play.

    Cooking meals with oversized crops is a waste of time and money.

    Much like cooking with normal produce, oversized crops will take the place of an ingredient and give you a discount on the price of the meal. Here’s the catch - that §600 lettuce my sim grew can, and will if you’re not paying attention, be used to make a single serving garden salad worth §3.

    Like I said at the beginning - I am playing an alpha version of the game, so changes could be made before release. I would love to see this be one of them.

    Thankfully, you can now preserve all those fruits and veggies with canning! While I hate the way cooking with oversized crops was implemented, I absolutely adore the canning system - especially with oversized produce.

    While other smaller, inferior produce items can produce two to three jars of conserve (in my experience), my oversized lettuce gave me twelve jars!

    Since we’ve already run the numbers on my freakishly large lettuce, let’s run them again. A §600 head of giant lettuce was condensed down and preserved in twelve jars, each valued at §60. Those twelve jars could be used to make more salads, sure. But they can also be sold for a total of §720 - leaving my sim with a §120 profit!

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    If you don’t feel like canning, cooking, or selling your crops, for some reason you’re able to turn them into decorations!

    Don’t worry, apparently they’re fireproof. đŸ”„

    https://storylegacysims.tumblr.com/post/656172328162672640/cottage-living-oversized-crops-overview-if
  • simgirl1010simgirl1010 Posts: 35,862 Member
    Next recipe is Milk Bread.

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    Milk Roll
    Breads
    Lancashire

    (or Blackpool Roll, Milk Bread, Blackpool Milk Roll, Lodger's Loaf)

    Soft white bread loaf, about 7ins diameter and 1lb weight, made with milk and baked in a two-part, enclosed cylindrical mould with circumferential ridges to indicate slice-cutting positions. Because steam is retained in the mould and no surface is directly exposed the crust is unusually soft. There is some evidence that this bread was formerly occasionally made in extraordinarily long moulds, each over 1 yard, to be cut into separate loaves by the baker.

    Said to have been occasionally referred to as a 'lodger's loaf' because a landlady could precisely measure the slices.

    http://www.foodsofengland.co.uk/milkrollblackpoolroll.htm
  • elanorbretonelanorbreton Posts: 14,549 Member
    I must come from the wrong area of England, as I had never even heard of milk loaf before now.
  • SERVERFRASERVERFRA Posts: 7,127 Member
    I think bunnies are so cute. <3 I actually get to see live rabbits here in the city & I always look forward to seeing them again even though they hop very, very fast.
  • SimalleyaileSimalleyaile Posts: 865 Member
    I am so looking forward to this pack, and have just finished reading all of your comments. (took me a few days :D )

    I think it's so sweet they've been so inspired by Beatrix Potter. A couple of days ago I watched Peter Rabbit II, and it's easy to see how influenced the devs must have been by these movies. I'm going to watch the first one again before the game's release. I really liked her little studio she used to do her painting, so quickly did the basic shape of it while I remembered (pic of it in the spoiler)
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    I had no idea I wanted bunnies! And was further clueless that I wanted to dress them up!

    I have wanted my sims to have a hobby farm for about as long as I've been playing sims games (since the beginning), and I like the world I'll get to do it in. Though a lot of my existing families will be getting something from this pack too, as most of them garden. So I'll fit chickens and cows in somehow.

    One of the things I'm most excited about is the Simple Living Lot Challenge. I've wanted something like this since the beginning of Sims 4 and had made suggestions to have ingredients like flour and sugar to make recipes, and now we're getting it. I can't wait.

    I'd sort of given up on the idea of customised ponds in Sims 4, and voila! Worth waiting for. I already have a castle with a moat to put the alligators in.... So many plans. This is the first time in the entire series that I'm actually suffering PEPS.

    Thanks everyone for all your fun comments and all the links from twitter. I keep up with all the latest news through you and appreciate it.
  • DrukiDruki Posts: 163 Member
    Next recipe is Milk Bread.

    Milk Roll
    Breads
    Lancashire

    (or Blackpool Roll, Milk Bread, Blackpool Milk Roll, Lodger's Loaf)

    Milk Bread!
    I'm a Lancashire lass and Blackpool is only 30 mins drive from here, so I've definitely had this bread a lot!
    It's so soft and is great for sandwiches. Reminds me of my childhood and summer picnics in the park or travelling to Blackpool and going to the beach.
  • SPARKY1922SPARKY1922 Posts: 5,965 Member
    edited July 2021
    @simgirl1010

    These are the ingredients my chef friend uses at the restaurant and at home for yorkshire puddings..

    1 cup of plain flour
    1 cup of milk
    1 cup of eggs
    muffin tin
    goose fat

    so i stand corrected in that some restaurants obviously still use animal fat to cook yorkshire puddings in :)

    @Druki

    Milk bread or milk roll I thought was known all over the UK as well and you just brought back fond memories of Blackpool weekends away :) I just checked and all our online supermarkets appear to still sell it as well.

    @Simalleyaile

    I am so pleased you like that pack as that will mean some wonderful builds from you hopefully :) I still use your disney water park in willow creek and update it slightly when new packs come out as my willow creek is mainly all disney castles and characters :) I like the cottage you have made already especially that lovely conservatory (if that's what it is-)

    The devs were probably/possibly looking at The World of Beatrix Potter near windermere in the lake district which is a gorgeous location. I have also visited the one at Stratford Upon Avon which is also a beautiful location which has Shakespeare's birthplace and childhood home. I don't think there is a kid in the UK that hasn't been given some sort of beatrix potter present especially from the tales of peter rabbit :)<3

    https://www.hop-skip-jump.com/

    Hill Top is the national trust property for beatrix potter and I am truly hoping to see some remakes from out creative and talented builders :)

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    more here

    https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/hill-top/features/what-you-need-to-know-about-your-visit-to-hill-top

    Peter rabbit kids cereal/breakfast set <3

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    Steiff Beatrix Potter Peter Rabbit Gift Set – Limited Edition <3

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  • simgirl1010simgirl1010 Posts: 35,862 Member
    Love all these interesting details. â˜ș
  • AmaraRenaAmaraRena Posts: 6,533 Member
    The live stream was amazing!!

    I want to play with everything at once. Can’t wait to make my own fish ponds to fish in. And we get to chose ourselves what fishes you can get. So good.

    I loved the bit about stocking ponds with our own fish. Wonder if sims can fish in the winter.

    I think they mentioned that the ponds freeze over when it's really cold.

    I loved all the effects you can add, I bet some people will make some really awesome ponds.

    It would be awesome if Sims can ice skate on the ponds in winter!
  • simgirl1010simgirl1010 Posts: 35,862 Member
    Next up: Beef Wellington

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    Beef Wellington is a steak dish of English origin, made out of fillet steak coated with pĂątĂ© (often pĂątĂ© de foie gras) and duxelles, wrapped in puff pastry, then baked. Some recipes include wrapping the coated meat in a crĂȘpe or parma ham to retain the moisture and prevent it from making the pastry soggy.

    A whole tenderloin may be wrapped and baked, and then sliced for serving, or the tenderloin may be sliced into individual portions prior to wrapping and baking.

    The origin of the name is unclear, with no definite connection to Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington.

    Leah Hyslop, writing in The Daily Telegraph, observed that by the time Wellington became famous, meat baked in pastry was a well-established part of English cuisine, and that the dish's similarity to the French filet de bƓuf en croĂ»te (fillet of beef in pastry) might imply that "Beef Wellington" was a "timely patriotic rebranding of a trendy continental dish". However, she cautioned, there are no 19th-century recipes for the dish. There is a mention of "fillet of beef, a la Wellington" in the Los Angeles Times of 1903, and an 1899 reference in a menu from the Hamburg-America line. It may be related to 'steig' or steak Wellington, an Irish dish (the Duke was from an Anglo-Irish family), but the dates for this are unclear.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_Wellington

    A bit of contradictory info on this one. More info here.

    http://www.foodsofengland.co.uk/beefwellington.htm
  • EllupelluelluEllupelluellu Posts: 6,914 Member
    Not only that I have to wait 5 days, now I am hungry too... :sweat_smile:
    My love, my love, my fearless love, I will not say goodbye..
    Sea may rise, sky may fall, My love will never die..
    My heart, my heart, My drowning heart, Oh all the tears I've cried
    Oh I may weep forevermore, My love will never die..

    My Story:Villa Catarina

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