As a community, we need to be organized and precise if we wan't something. I loved the sentiments, I'm loving the idea of the likes & dislikes, but no matter the subject... if they add proper memories, or gossip, or attraction... Its always going to be overpowered by the emotions system. Its a waste of time for us to be askign for all of thsoe things when the base of it all isn't working as intended. And yes, they can say its not broken and doesn't need fixing, but I DOUBT they intended this system to work like this and obstructing everything else that is added to the game.
I haven't seen any influencers, cc creator or simmer takign the charge and leading us to the change, and I don't know if I have the ability or knowledge to make it work, but I'm the one that decided I won't be heard anymore. If you want to be heard, join me in this petition and lets make this game change for good.
In less than a year lilsimsie influenced them to add names to cowplants, the same happened to plumbella and Bonehilda. As much as I love those things, you're not seeing the power you have to make this game good. In less than six months the black lives matter movement forced the sims team to hear a major complaint from the black simmer community and fixed the skin tones, and thats what I'm talking about. I don't want emotions to be fixed next year or 2 years from now, I wan't it NOW and i NEED it now before I give up on this game AGAIN and go on hiatus again. I never had those "phases" in SIms 2 and 3 and I think the emotions system overpowering everything is the reason why.
Here is a petition I created:
http://chng.it/yyyynVhPPf
And I also want to start a hashtag #FixEmotionsEqualsFixingSims4
And for our voices to be heard worldwide I invite you to translate the petition, but share the link of the og one so that the numbers stay organized in one place only.
I hope we can work together to improve our beloved Sims.
Edit.: LilSimsie, Plumbella, English Simmer, PleasantSims, James Turner, Iron Seagull, Springsims and every other amazing streamers and videomakers aroudn this big world to join me and make a video about it. It needs to be discussed as fast as possible. If you can showcase the issue with examples of how the emotions can be op in the game and present solutions it would be great.
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They really need to fix this. Also more negative buffs. I mean everytime a pack comes out we got like A maltitude Happy Buffs but not so much in negative buff aside from uncomfortable. I can't even remember if the latest packs have Angry or Sad Buffs because it is very rare.
They need more negative buffs in the game
http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/924539/features-that-needs-depth-and-ways-to-improve
@Forgeron The CC creators (who know a lot about how the game works) are unfortunately not as big as GameChangers to be heard. And the Game Changers... well, we know they don't play the game enough to notice these things. They build 90% of the time so you know.
I really hope they make some kind of emotion overhaul in the future. Maybe balance it more by adding more negative moodlets, making them more powerful and cutting down on the positive moodlets a bit (especially the really insignificant ones like “good environment”, “good food” or whatever they’re called). It’ll also be great if sims didn’t switch emotions so abruptly like they’re on constant mood swings. These are the reasons why I can’t play without Meaningful Stories. I swear the balance it brings to the system singlehandedly fixed all my issues with it and the personalities in this game.
I use Meaningful Stories in my game which is a wonderful mod and helps a lot with the mood changing but sadly it doesn't fix the issue of some moodlets being over powered.
Another issue I have is them adding moodlets that are powerful and almost permanent such as the inspired buff from a clean house. I had to mod that out of my game because it was over powering every other emotion.
Bust the Dust did get "Order to Clean" as a mean interaction which gives the recipient Sim an angry or a sad buff depending on the relationship with the Sim but I don't think that's performed autonomously.
For example :
An unique Like/dislike Fitness instead of Swimming, Basketball, Soccer, Workout, Jogging
"You like soccer ? You are a gymrat who likes every sports !"
At the end all the Active sims will like Fitness, Preferences become useless if there is no difference between basketball and martial art.
A lot of activities are excluded compared to the Club Activities (Read a book, Skating, Play card, Watch TV, ...)
There is also nothing to like for the genius/scientists.
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The Sims 4 General DiscussionAnyway, I'm thrilled we have Likes and Dislikes. There will need to be another update on it to include other stuff for sure. My sim who has the knitting aspiration really needs knitting in her Likes.
But, I agree with you. Unless they fix the Emotion System, none of these new features matter.
Positive & Happy Emotions are too strong, and overtake everything. A well decorated house destroys any negative feelings a sim might have. An Inspired buff from a painting can overpower Sadness from a Breakup/ Divorce. Emotions are too easy to manipulate by environmental factors, like decor and certain activities. Angry emotions are too easily fixed by using Happy decor or from easy social interactions. Sims are too easy to control and shallow. Give them a luxurious house to live in, and they'll never be sad, angry or tense again. Overall, the Emotion System is shallow and badly programmed.
It's the same thing with Sentiments. I like Sentiments, they are a nice idea. But, again, the Emotion System gets in the way. Your sim might have a festering grudge from a fight, but as soon as you put an expensive painting in the room, they forget about it.
They can keep adding all the features they want to the game, but until they fix the Emotions System, the sims will still be as shallow as ever.
This game is so close to greatness if EA would just address a few key areas.
-Emotion balancing (emotions need prioritization and time adjustments.)
-Chemistry and Attraction
-Whims overhaul.
-Autonomous Interactions based on Traits, Moods, Conversations & Relationships
I added mods to reduce happy-all-the-time emotions, make whims more interesting, assign chemistry and attraction between sims, and make them perform autonomous actions that makes sense for the sim and the situation. I had so much fun with my sims. Until I had to take out the mods because of the latest patch. I left them out because I really don't enjoy tracking mods for compatibility and being updated and then only get to play for a few weeks before I had to do it all over again.
I will wait to see what modders do with the Likes/Dislikes system before I add then in again.
These skills are banned :
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FAVORITES COMPARED! Sims 2 vs. Sims 3 vs. Sims 4
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The Sims 4 General DiscussionSorry, but as it stands, this update sucks huge balls!
There's some other activities that don't necessarily have skills, but would be cool to see as a hobby/activity in this list.
@LeGardePourpre i have to disagree. The options in the favorite system from Sims 3 is so basic, the first thing that comes when you think of preferences is your favorite music genre, food and colors. It doesn't surprise me that we have that in Sims 4 now, when games like Stardew Valley and Harvest Moon have something similar.
When it comes to favorite colors, it has way more meaning than it had in SIms 3. We have many more options to pick favorite music genre.
The hobby system from Sims 2 was cool, but it was really shallow in options... it was just a general topic with levels (like a skill_ and each level unlocked a interaction. Some of those interactions we do have in SIms 4 as trait characteristics and wouldn't make sense to add them to a hobby system anymore.
My problem with it all is just the emotions overpowering the meaning of this and any other new system.
No, it won't, you can't break something thats broke already.