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Gender Neutral Options.
ncisGibbs02
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I heard on a livestream they were going to include gender neutrality in the Sims. I hope it’s going to be a toggle button so it’s a choice. I think that would be fair, having options is important. Everyone plays differently.
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I agree.... I would like it to be a toggle too, because I kind of like it the way it is now.
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I don't think townies can be randomized with the gender cuztomizations already in game, so that most likely won't happen.
It could be new icon next to male/female, so townies will be generated with it. idk
I have no idea how they are going to do it though.
Maybe they'll add it to the current CAS options? That'd seem like the easiest idea and would be done on per-sim basis rather than global, which would make little sense.
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Probably, I just wonder how much the game needs to be updated in order to support it. There is probably a lot of code in the game that relies on a sim being either a {M0.him} or {F0.her} as it is defined in the game code.
Yes I’m wondering about that and how big the patch size is going to be! 😱
If I left anyone out please forgive me, I'm not very political correct.
I agree with you 100 percent. I hope it's a choice. No one can complain if we have the option to use it or not to use it.
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If gender neutral was to be added aren’t there other gender identities that need to be added? Or how should I see this? How does this work? Should I not call it gender identity?
You have to forgive me but googling anything gender related these days confuses me.
I understand folks want to be represented ‘n all, but from a developers point of view I can imagine that trying to implement different gender identities and different pronouns and make it work for everybody (without offending anyone) would be a complete and utter nightmare!
Which genders should be included, or is it only the additional one (gender neutral) and then everybody will be happy?
I imagine this will probably more a player thing, like the ability to create trans sims, I don't think you will see it much on townies sims, apart from a few ones that come with newer packs.
What if this worked like story progression? With the tick the game replaces text to show gender neutral. If you don’t check it the game runs as is. I don’t know if that’s too simple as I’m not a computer programmer. It was just a thought.
No, of course I don't mind that Sims vary, and have diverse skin tones. But everyone asking to omit non-binary options, this is what you sound like. Maybe re-think why you have the objections you have.
I don’t think anyone here is asking for non-binary options to be omitted. I believe this is more about not wanting non-binary pronouns to replace “ he” or “she”. I’m not trying to speak for anybody else though, but this is something I would object to. My sim is either born he or she and anything beyond that should be optional.
That being said, I’d have no problem with npc’s being generated with different gender identities if that’s how they want to express themselves.
However, I would certainly be against full automatic replacement of he/ she with they/ them, just because it’s perhaps the easy way out from a development perspective.
Non-Binary (or whatever else is out there) could be optional in CAS similar to the way I choose either male or female, skin tone, hair colour etc. but where do you stop?
talk about what the gender neutral sim was doing in the group but the sim is also called they
surly they wouldn't call the sim it would they
I support adding it so people can represent themselves. Do it. Give me the option to disable it if I don’t like it. If I don’t want non-binary people in my game, that doesn’t impact anyone else. If I don’t want transgender people in my game, that doesn’t impact anyone else. Et cetera.
Give. Us. The. Choice. That's all we're asking. We're not asking for it to be not included, we're simply asking for the option.
My solution to this is to, upon seeing a townie I don't like the look of, go into Manage Worlds (this has the added benefit of periodically prompting me to save my game, useful in case of crashes), and give that sim a complete overhaul.
My simworld is "50s sitcom", American-red-state level of traditional. But I am delighted that options exist so that no matter what kind of world people want to play in, we can all do it in game. As someone else put it:
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Yes exactly! 👏😎.
The livestream didn’t say how they were doing to go about bringing gender neutral texts. ‘It’s not a destination but a journey.’
That’s very vague. They must have some ideas so why not share them? Even if they don’t work out at least we’d have some idea how they’re going to implement this.
I’ve got diversity in my Sims but I don’t want to lose he or she texts because that’s how I play and set up my stories.
So yes,
Give. Us. The. Choice.