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    Face and body meshes need updating for Children, no more clones pls.

    TOLKIENTOLKIEN Posts: 1,594 Member
    edited April 2021 in The Sims 4 Game Feedback
    So yes, I've owned Sims 4 since release but until recently avoided having children, raising kids has never been something I've enjoyed in the Sims unless I can send them away to boarding school lol.

    Recently I decided to create two "dynasty families" with babies, grandparents and everything in between and I couldn't help notice the children looked identical unless you zoom in and compare screenshots and all share the same generic thin body shape.

    Now maybe I'm wrong, but it seems Maxis literally used same body mesh/aka appearance for ALL children - meaning kids look exactly the same until you age them up into ENTIRELY different looking sims with completely different features. Thats what REAAALLY gets me to be honest.

    NOW I do notice that Sim children DO retain very slight changes between their faces from their adult selves mostly their nose, eyes and lips shape - however I don't understand why are they so toned down as to be barely distinguishable? They should appear pronounced to make individuals stand apart, as they are so similar otherwise.

    Like toddlers and swimming pools, I think its time for them to go back and update sims babies as well and redo the meshes for children so they better pronounce their facial features and add more body shapes to better represent.

    Maybe this could be a quality of life improvement, updated with the base game when they release a generations like expansion pack? hint hint~

    To prove my point here are two sets of pictures.

    The first image shows a child generated by parents on the left. The child on the right is me clicking on "add new sim", adding glasses, hat and same top - meaning he is otherwise randomly generated. Yet these two kids appear nearly identical!

    The second image is the drastic immersion breaking difference as they age up with my literally clicking "teen" icon and thats what he suddenly looks like now.

    edit: Just for fun I added a third pic of the two unrelated children in the UI and how they literally look like twins except i changed the hat color lol - like literal twins.

    On the plus side I still have no interest in raising kids in the Sims, at least not until boarding schools are added - so this is less of an issue for me anyway but am I wrong in calling this out? Am I the only one that noticed this? After all this time I can't be...

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    Edit, to note this is NOT a criticism of the game to be critical, but rather an observation of a gameplay element that could be updated now by tweaking facial meshes to make details more pronounced and adding more body shapes so kids so I can make the kid from Up! (i loved that movie)

    I guess this should be moved to the feedback forum, sorry*
    Post edited by EA_Leeloo on

    Comments

    • BluelleBluelle Posts: 327 Member
      This is so true and I've noticed it before many times. All kids have the same face and body, basically. They can also only have 1 trait. They have the same facial expression where the mouth goes up at the corners very vertically... Like... the facial structure is always 100% the same, if that makes any sense. The smile and the way the face moves makes them all identical.

      I would say that kids need an overhaul, but the truth is that the entire game needs and overhaul, or needs to be left in the past while they start working on TS5.
    • BabykittyjadeBabykittyjade Posts: 4,975 Member
      I must say even with cc I have a REALLY hard time making distinguishable looking kids😵😵😵
      Zombies, oh please oh please give us zombies!! :'(
    • Mstybl95Mstybl95 Posts: 5,883 Member
      I have a unlock for the proportions of the body and it makes a huge difference. I think my kids faces are all pretty unique if I create them myself, but the born in games always have no chins and humongous heads. Now in the game, they are carbon copies of each other because their mannerisms and expressions do not have any variance.
    • SharoniaSharonia Posts: 4,853 Member
      It’s not just a Sims 4 thing. Children all look the same in the Sims 2 and 3 as well. I feel like maybe they just don’t spend as much time developing them as they do the older ages.
    • EA_LeelooEA_Leeloo Posts: 2,019 EA Staff (retired)
      Hey there! FYI: I moved this thread to the Game Feedback section. :)
    • ChadSims2ChadSims2 Posts: 5,090 Member
      Children should have all the presets as the adults do but yeah they really do all look the same. Sims should not look like a completely different person when aging sure things like noses and ears should be smaller when children and less muscle but besides that the differences should be noticed.
      Sims 4 went from "You Rule" to "One of the stories we want you to tell"
    • OldeseadoggeOldeseadogge Posts: 4,995 Member
      Sharonia wrote: »
      It’s not just a Sims 4 thing. Children all look the same in the Sims 2 and 3 as well. I feel like maybe they just don’t spend as much time developing them as they do the older ages.

      Can't speak for TS3, but in TS2 I have adult sims with multiple kids, same set of parents, and the kids are distinctly different even as toddlers. Am not much of a family player so maybe am just lucky. Do agree that kids likely get the short end of the development stick.
    • CinebarCinebar Posts: 33,618 Member
      edited May 2021
      Not only all this but the genetics in this game are horrible. I often got fussed at when I pointed out that No, sorry your born in game kid Sim looks exactly like any other premade rolled in CAS in my game. That really upsets people. But it's the truth.
      "Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
    • logionlogion Posts: 4,716 Member
      I was never around the sims forums when the sims4 was released so I don't know if people thought kids all looked the same when the game was released.

      I agree that the kid model is a bit too simplified, Maxis have created some kids that look kinda different because they edited them a lot, like Christie Sigworth (pre-made sim from strangerville) and Gabe Gonzales (Snowy Escape sim from Maxis gallery) but that often leads to them looking really ugly when they age up.

      I don't see them updating this in the near future though...
    • kwanzaabotkwanzaabot Posts: 2,440 Member
      I'm glad somebody's finally saying it.
      This has been something that's annoyed me since 2015.

      Part of me thinks it's an "anti-deletion" measure. If all your children look the same, then you won't delete them in CAS every time you get an uggo--you'll have raised them into teens and formed a sentimental attachment to them by the time you realize they look like Sloth from The Goonies.
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    • inkyvioletinkyviolet Posts: 147 Member
      > @kwanzaabot said:
      > I'm glad somebody's finally saying it.
      > This has been something that's annoyed me since 2015.
      >
      > Part of me thinks it's an "anti-deletion" measure. If all your children look the same, then you won't delete them in CAS every time you get an uggo--you'll have raised them into teens and formed a sentimental attachment to them by the time you realize they look like Sloth from The Goonies.

      Totally agree, made me laugh.

      Conditioned to see the same Todd/Kid repeatedly even if mum and dad are worlds away [you know what I mean]. There's only so many hairs and clothes
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