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Negative Traits
KatNip
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The Sims 4 seriously lacks in traits that makes Sims unique, but more so in negative traits. In fact, with negative traits, we've got about four total- evil, mean-spirited, dislikes children (if that even counts) and maybe jealous. Still, most of these traits... don’t really do anything. Jealous makes your Sims insecure, at best. Evil and mean spirited sims will be unpleasant at times, but they’ll quickly go to having a friendly conversation with Sims.
I’ve always enjoyed having downright mean Sims, or Sims that have a fair mix of pleasant and unpleasant traits, and I think The Sims 3 did this well. Mean spirited sims went out of their way to be rude to anyone and hotheaded Sims had random explosions of anger. Evil sims took downright pleasure from other Sims suffering. Loser sims struggled in everything and cried about everything. Personally, I think even neurotic was a well done trait that resembled OCD pretty well, although downplayed in a silly, harmless way that the Sims always does things.
Still, I’d like to see traits that make your Sims a little different or a little more difficult to play with. The Sims 4 feels like it’s all rainbows and sunshine in a lot of aspects, but especially this. I want Sims who are just unlucky and struggle with everything in love. I want evil Sims who take sadistic enjoyment from stealing candy from toddlers and making everyone around them miserable. I want Sims who feel like they have to double, triple check stoves and sinks to make sure they’re still off. Grumpy sims who just can’t see the pleasure or light in anything or hot headed Sims who can’t control their temper. I want traits that make things unique, different or harder in The Sims 4. What do you guys think?
I’ve always enjoyed having downright mean Sims, or Sims that have a fair mix of pleasant and unpleasant traits, and I think The Sims 3 did this well. Mean spirited sims went out of their way to be rude to anyone and hotheaded Sims had random explosions of anger. Evil sims took downright pleasure from other Sims suffering. Loser sims struggled in everything and cried about everything. Personally, I think even neurotic was a well done trait that resembled OCD pretty well, although downplayed in a silly, harmless way that the Sims always does things.
Still, I’d like to see traits that make your Sims a little different or a little more difficult to play with. The Sims 4 feels like it’s all rainbows and sunshine in a lot of aspects, but especially this. I want Sims who are just unlucky and struggle with everything in love. I want evil Sims who take sadistic enjoyment from stealing candy from toddlers and making everyone around them miserable. I want Sims who feel like they have to double, triple check stoves and sinks to make sure they’re still off. Grumpy sims who just can’t see the pleasure or light in anything or hot headed Sims who can’t control their temper. I want traits that make things unique, different or harder in The Sims 4. What do you guys think?
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And yes The Sims 3 really nailed it with Traits system, just recently finished my gaming session and in that last lession as soon as my sims get out of the class, the mean spirited sims out of nowhere slapped my sims and then continue to pick a fight.
Understood. Are you playing Sims 3? When I was actively playing 3 I actually stayed away from most of the 'negative' traits so I do hope I get a chance to revisit it at some point.
Negative is one of the fun trait to have in TS3, especially Neurotic and Inappropriate(this one is my fave, when other sims is having a birthday, instead of cheering for them, they point and laugh to the birthday sim)
They really don't do much but still about 70% of my seams are mean evil and hot headed.
I would love to see all of the ones you named come and more!
Mortimer Goth in TS1 is one of the most hateful Sims ever created in the entire seires. It's clear when you try to build a relationship with that Sim so your Sim can get a promotion because they will literally starve if they don't have enough money for food. Or you have to resort to selling off the furniture to buy food if they aren't making enough money. Mortimer doesn't help that situation at all when it comes to gaining a friend so your Sim can have a few more dollars if he is the one you need to cultivate a relationship with so you can get the promotion.
It's not only his personality but his interests and he never seemed to be compatible with any of my Sims I created.
It's so easy to see how easy the game has become when you look back at TS1 and compare it to the rest of them. TS4 being right on the level of MySims for tiny kids.
I was somewhat relieved TS2 wasn't that hard and I was happy to see TS3 added even more traits and experiences but they too seemed not as important than TS or TS2 with sometimes just giving a buff rather than a life changing experience and or break down or anything that wasn't just easily ignored just like in TS4. Negativity could affect other Sims in the older games. Such as a Sim stealing the paper everyday dang day before your Sim had a chance to find a job. Or causing fights out in the public leading to other things happening if your Sim somewho got involved. I have seen Sims autonomously come to the aid of another Sim and or get involved with some arguments and or fights and wind up in one themselves. lol TS4 has no such blowback.
The good, the bad and the ugly is why I love the older games, because it's not about what level my Sim has reached to get that aspiration or whatever TS4 has to offer but the journey. I'm sorry to say TS4 has forgotten all about the journey.
I’m quite happy that my slob can use the bathroom in the shower though. Kill two birds with the one stone. 😬
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But let's see...off the top of my head, in addition to jealous (or more aptly..'tense' from a pathetic degree of clinginess), hot-headed, evil, and hates children, there's also slob, glutton, kleptomaniac, green fiend (I don't see it as a positive going around being a sanctimonious sack)
and a few others that are not necessarily supposed to be bad, but aren't so great in practice, either.
It is true that a lot of traits just amount to your Sim being Tense if this or that condition isn't met periodically. Blah.
Let's make Liberty and Justice For All a reality.
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Please, no more relation disturbing actions, it is too simple and crude.
The inspiration from Sims Medieval is so much better; flaws are interesting and can be worked with and played with.
TS3 was great. I agree that the Sims Medieval also had a good traits system.
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@Auroraskies The fun thing as that you don’t have to play with negative or game altering traits if they were added. Those who do want to, however, have to rely on mods and 3rd party creations, when it shouldn’t be like that.
I also have a right to express my opinion on this forum, whether it is the same as yours or not, without having to be quoted, tagged or dragged into what I suspect is nothing else than a reason to try to bait me into a silly, negative argument.
This section is called Feedback, and it is feedback on the game, meant for the SimGurus. My opinion is about the suggestion of mean traits; and not directed to players posting in this thread.