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  • Nekia33painterNekia33painter Posts: 336 Member
    No
    For those who say yes aren't you worried about doing the same thing over again? Sims 5 releases and there are no vehicles, no bunk beds, no leaders, university, no pets and no weather. You really wanna go through asking and waiting for all that stuff over again? I'd much rather they improve what we have then get more bugs in a newer game. And if they can't fix the bugs in sims 4 I doubt they can do it in a new game.
  • SimmerGeorgeSimmerGeorge Posts: 2,724 Member
    Yes
    LiELF wrote: »

    So I think that Sims 5 is likely to be successful eventually however it turns out, despite complaints, regardless of whichever features it adds or removes or who it caters to, and whether people are ready to move forward or not.

    @LiELF There are always going to be complains by some people but I don't know if you remember how much praise the game actually got and how much innovation came with it. You cannot compare The Sims 3 launch with The Sims 4 launch. The sims 4 was really heavily critized when it launched for not being as innovative as the previous releases and basically being Sims 2.5
    Since you said you were there for both launches I'm sure you remember that.
    Where's my Sims 5 squad at?
  • SimmerGeorgeSimmerGeorge Posts: 2,724 Member
    edited July 2020
    Yes
    For those who say yes aren't you worried about doing the same thing over again? Sims 5 releases and there are no vehicles, no bunk beds, no leaders, university, no pets and no weather. You really wanna go through asking and waiting for all that stuff over again? I'd much rather they improve what we have then get more bugs in a newer game. And if they can't fix the bugs in sims 4 I doubt they can do it in a new game.

    @Nekia33painter Well the thing is you are not supposed to be begging for features and that's what we've been asking for. Some of the features you mentioned should be in the base game.
    Also remember a new Sims game needs to bring innovation to the table. I don't know if you have only been around during The Sims 4 era but for example when The Sims 2 was released it was empty but it was the first time playing in 3D with lots of new life stages and features so nobody stuck with The Sims 1 for long even if they had all the Expansion packs.
    Same with The Sims 3 that came with an open-world, many people played The Sims 2 because it was "full" but then eventually bought The Sims 3 for the open-world among other features.

    Usually new Sims games used to be actually really good but with The Sims 4 being so empty at the start it's normal that people are afraid of a new Sims game as boring as empty and as the Sims 4 base game which was the first in the franchise that EA blew the launch so hard.

    To make a long story short we don't just want a bad, empty Sims 5 base game, we want EA to finally deliver an innovative, full, fun base game like they used to with previous installments. We want to see progress and never seen before mechanics, not just another empty base game a la Sims 4.
    Where's my Sims 5 squad at?
  • CAPTAIN_NXR7CAPTAIN_NXR7 Posts: 4,457 Member
    edited July 2020
    No
    I'm glad OP has inserted *YET* in the title of this thread.

    NO. I do not want a Sims 5 yet because I simply don't believe it's finished yet.
    If the release of that potential TS5 is too soon I do not believe BG will be a stable or well rounded game.
    Unstable & Unappealing Game = Pitchforks and Fire.
    Give it 1or 2 years and I may change my mind.
    • Do I want to see the successor to TS4 to be great? Yes.
    • Show Innovative Gameplay elements? I sure do.
    • Taking the all time favorites from previous iterations into consideration and build a system that can support these? Hell Yes.
    • Taking the flaws from previous iterations into consideration and make sure the same mistakes aren't made. For Crying out loud YES!.

    Will any of the above happen? Who the hell knows? We all hope for the best when it comes to future content made by one of the most hated game publishers in history. Yet we all long for it to be the best Sims game yet. And it may turn out to be the best game, or at least a really good one. Time will tell.

    But while one thing is in development, the other still exists. And while the other still exists, we need to see an exploration of themes and concepts like we've never seen before.

    At this point, TS4 has become 'Nervous Test Subject.' Well, let's omit the word 'Nervous' for now and just see it as 'Test Subject'. We'll see how it goes.

    TS4 has still a world left, albeit a limited one, that could and should be explored by it's developers and tested by it's consumers (who are in their turn, of course also the test subject.)
    Anyone who's still willing to invest in testing the subject and has the energy left to provide feedback, great, as it will hopefully help open up a world much greater than any before when it comes to the next generation of Sims.

    All I can say is Hang in there folks and Fingers crossed. B)
  • LiELFLiELF Posts: 6,447 Member
    No
    LiELF wrote: »

    So I think that Sims 5 is likely to be successful eventually however it turns out, despite complaints, regardless of whichever features it adds or removes or who it caters to, and whether people are ready to move forward or not.

    @LiELF There are always going to be complains by some people but I don't know if you remember how much praise the game actually got and how much innovation came with it. You cannot compare The Sims 3 launch with The Sims 4 launch. The sims 4 was really heavily critized when it launched for not being as innovative as the previous releases and basically being Sims 2.5
    Since you said you were there for both launches I'm sure you remember that.

    I wish Sims 4 was Sims 2.5! I would have been delighted. Just like Sims 3 players wanted 4 to be 3.5. But it was neither.

    The thing about Sims 3 innovation is that it still came with sacrifices, and this was part of the problem. I don't think hardly anyone would have complained if it had truly been an "upgrade" to Sims 2. But rather than being a giant step forward, it was more of a step sideways. I'd say it was very ambitious, certainly. But those innovations came at a cost, and that cost wasn't worth it to some people and that's why there was a clamor over it. For example, open world was new and exciting, but the majority of Maxis venues became rabbit holes. If you weren't a builder, that's what you got stuck with. It also blocked players from being able to connect other worlds and have various Sims live in different towns simultaneously and be able to interact. And for a while, there was no way to play rotationally or control colonization or generations. Entire play styles had been eliminated while others (builders and designers), had been catered to a lot more. I'm not going to get into the other things, I just wanted to point out that there's always a price paid for any new, big feature.

    When I got the Sims 4 base game, it was a couple of months after release, because I wanted to make sure I would want to actually play it, after my experience with not liking Sims 3. I joined the forums officially about a month after that and I did see a lot of unrest. Most of what I saw was about toddlers missing (which I honestly hadn't even noticed because I don't usually create families in CAS) and Sims 3 players who were upset that it wasn't like Sims 3 with open world, CaST, color wheel, or realistic art style (none of which I personally care about) and that the base game was a base game and empty of seasons, pets, etc. But yes, there were discussions about the game being made for online as well. It definitely had more unrest than any previous games, as far as I can tell. But eventually, like Sims 3, when it finally started taking off with content and patches, it gained a whole lot of momentum, especially with new players. It just took longer because it was so incomplete to begin with. (Still is, in my opinion.)

    Sims 4 did bring innovations, but again, things were sacrificed for them or they came with consequences just like its predecessor, so it was yet another step to the side, but on a diagonal, out into another realm. But there are people who love it. In the end, it comes down to personal preferences when it comes to The Sims franchise and whether a game is "good" or not. Each game has its loyalists. Which is why Sims 5 is going to be a very complicated situation. I know that there are a few people who seem to be assuming that Maxis will just go back to Sims 2 or 3 style and scrap anything from 4, but that's not likely to be the case. They now have four games in the history of the series of which each have had a rabid following, and a player base with demands for conflicting features. It's not going to please everyone, that's for sure.
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  • SimmerGeorgeSimmerGeorge Posts: 2,724 Member
    edited July 2020
    Yes
    LiELF wrote: »

    I wish Sims 4 was Sims 2.5! I would have been delighted. Just like Sims 3 players wanted 4 to be 3.5. But it was neither.
    @LiELF
    That was a criticism. Saying the game was just the Sims 2.5 is a bad thing and means the game brought nothing new to the table. People said that to complain.
    LiELF wrote: »
    If you weren't a builder, that's what you got stuck with. It also blocked players from being able to connect other worlds and have various Sims live in different towns

    You couldn't have sims live in different towns in The Sims 2 without their memories, relationships and so on getting deleted.
    LiELF wrote: »
    Sims 4 did bring innovations, but again, things were sacrificed for them or they came with consequences just like its predecessor, so it was yet another step to the side, but on a diagonal, out into another realm.

    The Sims 4 was not just missing toddlers, it was missing ghosts, pools, reactions from sims during death and birthdays etc. It was the first game to cut out so vital content
    Also except for multitasking what innovation did the Sims 4 bring exactly? The thing is every new game brought a new way to expand gameplay even more and more. Starting from 2D and no aging (Sims 1) to 3D and fleshed out lifestages (Sims 2) to a vibrant open-world and even more customization (Sims 3) to ... less customization, a limited world, missing lifestages and lacking personalities (Sims 4). This is why I'm saying The Sims 4 is a step back...

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    Where's my Sims 5 squad at?
  • CAPTAIN_NXR7CAPTAIN_NXR7 Posts: 4,457 Member
    No

    To make a long story short we don't just want a bad, empty Sims 5 base game, we want EA to finally deliver an innovative, full, fun base game like they used to with previous installments. We want to see progress and never seen before mechanics, not just another empty base game a la Sims 4.

    But instead of ‘waiting’ another bit you want EA To deliver that kind of quality content this year or at least very soon, am I right?
  • NationalPokedexNationalPokedex Posts: 829 Member
    Yes
    I feel like there is little difference between the expectation that EA will fix TS4 and the expectation that TS5 will be vastly improved following TS4. Only EA knows what remaining updates they have for TS4. Will these updates provide the masses with what they've been asking for? Only EA knows what they'll include in TS5 base game which will determine the packs. Will staple features be added to the base game?

    I personally don't think it makes sense to refute anyone's "TS5 will be improved" argument if the only rebuttal is that EA will do to TS5 what they are doing to TS4. If you assume they're going to continue to improve TS4 (often through free updates) then how can you assume that they won't present an improved TS5?
  • yellowduckyyellowducky Posts: 12 New Member
    Yes
    Yes I can not wait but they might change the game totally. I dont want the sims to be human look-a-like. Because the game would be hard to play. Does anyone remember the time when The Sims 2 came out and everyone talked about it for years. The 1st time the babies turned intoa totler
  • SimmerGeorgeSimmerGeorge Posts: 2,724 Member
    Yes

    To make a long story short we don't just want a bad, empty Sims 5 base game, we want EA to finally deliver an innovative, full, fun base game like they used to with previous installments. We want to see progress and never seen before mechanics, not just another empty base game a la Sims 4.

    But instead of ‘waiting’ another bit you want EA To deliver that kind of quality content this year or at least very soon, am I right?

    When you put it that way then no I don't want it this or next year maybe 2022 or a year later if they think it's ready. The title of the forum changed a bit so yeah. But I certainly want them to work on it as much as possible.
    Where's my Sims 5 squad at?
  • CAPTAIN_NXR7CAPTAIN_NXR7 Posts: 4,457 Member
    No

    To make a long story short we don't just want a bad, empty Sims 5 base game, we want EA to finally deliver an innovative, full, fun base game like they used to with previous installments. We want to see progress and never seen before mechanics, not just another empty base game a la Sims 4.

    But instead of ‘waiting’ another bit you want EA To deliver that kind of quality content this year or at least very soon, am I right?

    When you put it that way then no I don't want it this or next year maybe 2022 or a year later if they think it's ready. The title of the forum changed a bit so yeah. But I certainly want them to work on it as much as possible.

    Fair enough, that makes sense. I wasn’t aware what the title of the discussion/poll was before it had changed.
  • KawaiiFairyRainbowsKawaiiFairyRainbows Posts: 92 Member
    Yes
    > @yellowducky said:
    > Yes I can not wait but they might change the game totally. I dont want the sims to be human look-a-like. Because the game would be hard to play. Does anyone remember the time when The Sims 2 came out and everyone talked about it for years. The 1st time the babies turned intoa totler

    Yep. I still get a hit a nostalgia when I see anything TS2 related. That was truly one of the greats.

    As for the thread I am quite ready to move on.
  • Carl_Veluz1992Carl_Veluz1992 Posts: 500 Member
    No
    Sakia90 wrote: »
    If you ask me, I would not have The Sims 5 yet because we need to add missing content to The Sims 4. We want Vehicles with Garages, Improved Babies with Strollers, Casinos, Additional world, Create a World, NPC Police & Burglar, Colorwheel for CAS & Build Mode.

    You're not going to get some of that in Sims 4...especially CAW and colorwheel. Those are 100% not happening.
    Sakia90 wrote: »
    If you ask me, I would not have The Sims 5 yet because we need to add missing content to The Sims 4. We want Vehicles with Garages, Improved Babies with Strollers, Casinos, Additional world, Create a World, NPC Police & Burglar, Colorwheel for CAS & Build Mode.

    You're not going to get some of that in Sims 4...especially CAW and colorwheel. Those are 100% not happening.

    Exactly, also why spend money and time on a 6 year old game when they can work on putting these features in The Sims 5.

    Thank You for the Opinions, But We still need more content before getting The Sims 5.
  • MsKatieRoseMsKatieRose Posts: 672 Member
    Yes
    Maybe after a few more years (considering the most recent Expansion game pack flop) and only if EA can improve upon the current game by including an open world with requiring less game packs to keep it interesting. Also, if it doesn't required a big computer software upgrade or update.
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  • logionlogion Posts: 4,718 Member
    edited July 2020
    Yes
    $700 USD for all the DLC for the Sims 4. If we will keep going then we will soon have $1000 USD for all the DLC.
  • ClarionOfJoyClarionOfJoy Posts: 1,945 Member
    Yes
    LiELF wrote: »
    LiELF wrote: »

    That's probably why EA focuses on getting the next generation of new players. Some of their hiring ads recently even specified "familiarity with Gen Z and trends" and "knowledge of previous Sims games not necessary". They are always looking forward, not back.


    Show me where it says that.


    It was in an ad someone posted from, I believe, it was some time last year or earlier this year? I'm sorry, I can't recall exactly.


    *Shrug* So why should I believe you?


  • SilentKittySilentKitty Posts: 4,665 Member
    No
    I am having fun with Sims 4 so I would like to see more content for it. Werewolves and fairies. Fairies could have a fun fantastical world with flower-shells working as apartments. More vacation-options. There are so many things that I would be happy to have in the game.

    It was a severe blow for me that Mass Effect Andromeda didn’t have any dlc, I love that game. So I have no other game making new content right now. I basically just play Sims 4 and BioWare games.
  • ldmarkoldmarko Posts: 5,487 Member
    Yes
    I don't want them to rush it, if it takes 2-3 more years to get it right, then so be it, I can wait. But Sims 4 just feels so half baked & Sims 3 was so high-maintenance, that I'm eager to see what they come up with for Sims 5. I'm not a shoe-in to buy, they're really going to have to wow me.
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  • Lady_BalloraLady_Ballora Posts: 786 Member
    No
    LiELF wrote: »
    LiELF wrote: »

    That's probably why EA focuses on getting the next generation of new players. Some of their hiring ads recently even specified "familiarity with Gen Z and trends" and "knowledge of previous Sims games not necessary". They are always looking forward, not back.


    Show me where it says that.


    It was in an ad someone posted from, I believe, it was some time last year or earlier this year? I'm sorry, I can't recall exactly.


    *Shrug* So why should I believe you?




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  • amp107amp107 Posts: 205 Member
    No
    I just want the Sims 4 to be made better. I've already invested so much in my TS4 game; I love all of the EPs, GPs, and SPs that we currently have. I don't want to have to start all over again and wait years and years for the same packs to be re-released for TS5 and have to invest a ton of money all over again. TS4 isn't bad in my opinion, and the areas that it is lacking in can be made better; mods prove that. Base game updates are needed to add story progression, memories, and better emotions. Official statements and surveys that I have seen suggest that the game makers ARE working on improving TS4 and have said that they want to make it better before they even consider TS5, so I hope that it still true and correct.

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  • OnverserOnverser Posts: 3,364 Member
    No
    After seeing some of the rumors for TS5, I especially don't want it. Online, multiplayer and full of micro transactions. Heck no. I will happily stick with the Sims 4 if that's the case. The Sims 3 shop was bad enough, couldn't think of anything worse for the franchise than that being rebranded and brought back. Also a new edition makes me worry more about my PC, it's old and probably wouldn't be able to handle it
  • LiELFLiELF Posts: 6,447 Member
    No
    LiELF wrote: »
    LiELF wrote: »

    That's probably why EA focuses on getting the next generation of new players. Some of their hiring ads recently even specified "familiarity with Gen Z and trends" and "knowledge of previous Sims games not necessary". They are always looking forward, not back.


    Show me where it says that.


    It was in an ad someone posted from, I believe, it was some time last year or earlier this year? I'm sorry, I can't recall exactly.


    *Shrug* So why should I believe you?


    Lol. So don't. I don't care if you do or not. You're obviously going to believe what you want to believe regardless of whatever evidence people put in front of you (which is why I'm not bothering to look for it). It's your loss. After all, I'm not the one chomping at the bit for information on Sims 5. The information is somewhere around on the forum if someone cared enough to find it.
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  • CinebarCinebar Posts: 33,618 Member
    edited July 2020
    Yes
    For those who say yes aren't you worried about doing the same thing over again? Sims 5 releases and there are no vehicles, no bunk beds, no leaders, university, no pets and no weather. You really wanna go through asking and waiting for all that stuff over again? I'd much rather they improve what we have then get more bugs in a newer game. And if they can't fix the bugs in sims 4 I doubt they can do it in a new game.

    Well, it could have vehicles. TS1, TS2 and TS3 had car pools in their bases. TS2 had to wait on NL for ownable cars but later Maxis gave away the driveway and animations and some cars like Mustang and others for those who didn't buy NL. Just had to download it. (not forced). TS3 had ownable cars in the base, so TS5 doesn't have to actually work out like TS4 and never get them. The more you add to a game I suppose the more we can expect it to become more and more buggy. I think TS4 has out lived it's purpose as a fun game to develop but more these last few years about how much money they can grab from anyone who never heard of The Sims. The young ones who never played this type of game, ever. It's like lately they are throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks. Such as adding competions hosted by game changers into the UI of the TS4 for players who must be bored out of their minds with regular Sim gameplay or the lack of Sim gameplay.

    I don't know anyone actually who is sitting here screaming omg, please add some competition to TS4! Yes, we need to be influenced by game changers to make up challenges for us to do in our games because the game is boring and we can't think of anything to do with it, so we must get competition into the game so we can enjoy it! Do you? Maybe one or two once in a blue moon, but I doubt that is the ideas over in the IDeas Corner, or the request wish list of 99.9999 feedback or request. TS5 can't come fast enough for some of us. But with the new game show on TBS and Andrew Wilsons idea The Sims is about competition and social interactions with others....I doubt I will ever want to see TS5 at all now. If that is the wave of the future I can definetly say I'm done with this franchise and just sit around and talk about it's glory days.

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  • CinebarCinebar Posts: 33,618 Member
    Yes
    LiELF wrote: »
    LiELF wrote: »

    That's probably why EA focuses on getting the next generation of new players. Some of their hiring ads recently even specified "familiarity with Gen Z and trends" and "knowledge of previous Sims games not necessary". They are always looking forward, not back.


    Show me where it says that.


    It was in an ad someone posted from, I believe, it was some time last year or earlier this year? I'm sorry, I can't recall exactly.


    *Shrug* So why should I believe you?


    It was posted here showing the ad for some careers that were open for a new Maxis game. Can't remember the thread, but they posted what qualifications were needed to be hired and a full description of job duties and qualificatons. It's here somewhere.
    "Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
  • smurfy77smurfy77 Posts: 1,250 Member
    No
    Personally for me, I am still hoping that more bug fixes, at the least are done and maybe more content if it doesn't break the game more before any talk of a Sims 5 comes along. If they are going to just put out content and not care what happens to it when people who pay for it play it, then maybe they shouldn't make a 5.
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