So, Evergreen Harbor comes with two same-gender families; the Tinkers and the Greenburgs. But those are all females. To maintain balance and equality, we need two families based around male Sims in future packs - the next game pack, for example.
I'm a little worried that female couples will get favored over male couples in our game. There is nasty a tendency out there in the world to be more accepting of female couples. I really hope that won't be the case in The Sims 4.
Any thoughts? (keep it decent, please)
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It has something to do with the message the company is sending. It's not a question of quantity of couples in and of itself.
@Sharonia That should not be the motivational factor in an inclusive political strategy.
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I didn't say that I agreed with it. I was just suggesting a reason as to why it might be. I don't speak for all obviously and I know everybody enjoys the game differently but I have seen plenty of polls showing a lot of favor to playing female sims over male sims. As for my opinion I'd actually rather they steered away from political issues in the game altogether and focus on making the game fun but that's just me. Saying this though I've played both of the female households you mentioned above and they have become some of my favourites.
I do wish there'd be more premade gay couples. I adore Heckings, although they often seem to flirt with others. Maybe they have an open marriage.
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I mean, even back when The Sims was first released, Maxis showed two female Sims kissing... while there weren't any actual Sims who were represented as lesbian in the game itself, this didn't stop it from happening. Also, in Sims 3, a lesbian couple was featured in 'Roaring Heights' as well.
Back in 2015 (I think), The Sims created a picture for 'Pride Month', which featured a rainbow line of Sims couples... one thing that stood out to me was the fact that only a lesbian couple was represented with a child... while all the gay male couples were represented as single (ALL of them). The Sims also seems to have a bias when it comes to which "version" of a same-sex couple is acceptable to have children or not. This continues to be a trend in the actual game itself... the ONE and ONLY male same-sex couple (Brant and Brent Hecking) have a dog, but not an actual child... meanwhile, every female same-sex couple in the game so far seems to have a child, which furthers the stigma that lesbians are considered "acceptable" to be parents, while gay men aren't.
Even the new characters represented in the logo for The Sims 4 (after they did the "revamp"), features a female same-sex couple, as opposed to a male same-sex couple. Some might suggest that one of them is "gender non-binary", but let's be real here... they're meant to be seen as both female.
So, yes, I would agree that EA/Maxis seems to have a homophobia bias against gay men, but seem to be perfectly accepting of lesbians. This is, again, an unfortunate trend in video games in general... though, you'd think a game like The Sims would be more progressive in this area... but it's not, sadly.
Also, the fact that we can create gay male Sims on our own isn't the point... so don't bring that up as an argument (because I know many people will probably think of that)... the point is, the developers, whether intentional or not, have shown a bias in favor of lesbians, while seemingly showing a negative bias against gay men.
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Yes, but notice how they're the only male same-sex couple in the entire series (not even just Sims 4), but are only represented as having a dog, instead of an actual child... meanwhile, every female same-sex couple that has been featured in this game is shown with a child. That's a bit concerning.
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That's not the point... EA & Maxis are a company that constantly claim to be LGBT inclusive and supportive. They profit off the LGBT community at every chance they get, but often fail to even represent us properly in their games... that's a huge red flag! Especially when The Sims is a game that many gay men enjoy, you can't really be surprised that we simply wanna see more representation.
This is a trend among many video games, TV shows, movies, etc... they claim to be all supportive of the LGBT community, but often refuse to even give us the slightest representation... and when they do, they often use the safest route possible... which either includes representing the most easily accepted members of the community (usually lesbians or bisexual women), using the gay character as comedic relief, or simply saying the character is gay, while never actually showing it.
This is problematic... especially for a company that claims to support the community so much. It also further proves they only say these things for the sake of $$$, instead of actually practicing what they claim to preach.
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Diego? Definitely. Gunther? I don’t know anything about him, never played that family. Sergio? Gay? I’m shocked. I think in my game I have him married to Siobhan. I never got that “vibe”, personally. Interesting
I watched one twitch streamer visit the Tinker household and he could not even understand that they were a couple because they did not even behave like they were married, they both started flirting with his male sim because of the Free Love NAP.
I want interesting premades that people seem to come up with on the gallery, like single dads for example and make them have interesting relationships in the game. Imagine if they would add two male sims that were romantically involved but not even living together for example, and it was up to the player to discover it themselves.
Also, yes, I would like to see more premade male gay or differently gendered couples. Representation is important.
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I don't have Eco Living but I know that I'd replace most, if not all, of the pre-made Sims based on what I've read about them. Some of their traits are awful and it seems that some traits were manipulated which usually ruins a Sim.
I agree that male Sims have been under-represented for a while but we, as players, can change that. Personally, I wish that EA/Maxis would either stop making pre-made household or make better ones.