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SimmerGeorge
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Hey guys,
So I'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for this but I'm really curious and I want to ask the community a question. What's the whole deal about Simmers not wanting to invest in better PCs so the game can evolve?
1. I've never seen a game community do this so much before. It seems so crazy to me that Simmers will go as far as to say they would rather not get The Sims 5 or new features that expand the game because they refuse to buy new hardware. Why is that? The Sims has never been such a demanding franchise anyway...
2. Other game communities usually want the best game possible. I am not just a Sims player so I experience new releases of other games and it's crazy how excited people get about a new game with great graphics or a crazy new feature that might be a bit demanding on the system but makes the game a lot better. A big amount of gamers in our Sims community aren't like that. They reject ideas for features that might be demanding just because their laptops can't handle it.
3. Why do Simmers choose laptops so much? Laptops are always a bad choice for gaming, they are more expensive and offer worse performance. If you buy a 600$ PC you could easily play on mid-high settings. On a 600$ laptop, well... hello laptop mode...
EDIT: I realize there can be laptops that you bought cheap and are good. I can't go into the specifics of everyone. I have to speak generally..
I understand that some people can't afford better systems but in my opinion it is really no reason to be going against all new features that could really expand the game and make it better just because your laptop can't handle it. We all just want the best experience we can possibly get, or don't we?
EDIT: What I am trying to ask is, if you are a player who can barely run The Sims 4, would you not want a better game if you couldn't run it?
The Sims team since the Sims 4 have limited themselves in what features they used in the game for many reasons but also so that people with low specs can run the game. Do you think this keeps The Sims series from evolving?
So I'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for this but I'm really curious and I want to ask the community a question. What's the whole deal about Simmers not wanting to invest in better PCs so the game can evolve?
1. I've never seen a game community do this so much before. It seems so crazy to me that Simmers will go as far as to say they would rather not get The Sims 5 or new features that expand the game because they refuse to buy new hardware. Why is that? The Sims has never been such a demanding franchise anyway...
2. Other game communities usually want the best game possible. I am not just a Sims player so I experience new releases of other games and it's crazy how excited people get about a new game with great graphics or a crazy new feature that might be a bit demanding on the system but makes the game a lot better. A big amount of gamers in our Sims community aren't like that. They reject ideas for features that might be demanding just because their laptops can't handle it.
3. Why do Simmers choose laptops so much? Laptops are always a bad choice for gaming, they are more expensive and offer worse performance. If you buy a 600$ PC you could easily play on mid-high settings. On a 600$ laptop, well... hello laptop mode...
EDIT: I realize there can be laptops that you bought cheap and are good. I can't go into the specifics of everyone. I have to speak generally..
I understand that some people can't afford better systems but in my opinion it is really no reason to be going against all new features that could really expand the game and make it better just because your laptop can't handle it. We all just want the best experience we can possibly get, or don't we?
EDIT: What I am trying to ask is, if you are a player who can barely run The Sims 4, would you not want a better game if you couldn't run it?
The Sims team since the Sims 4 have limited themselves in what features they used in the game for many reasons but also so that people with low specs can run the game. Do you think this keeps The Sims series from evolving?
Where's my Sims 5 squad at?
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You said it yourself, not everyone can afford to buy a new system to support whatever the developers would want to put in the game. Maybe it makes more sense to lower expectations than it is to be able to actually physically acquire something that might not be financially feasible.
I have to assume you are asking about people who have the means to buy whatever high end computer they want, but don’t want the game to be expanded, in which case I can’t speak for them and can’t imagine why they would think that way. Could be if people think they would have to upgrade their current system, they just don’t want to go through the hassle of buying something new, don’t have the space for an appropriate setup in their living situation, don’t invest as much time into this game so investing money into a new system isn’t worth it, etc.
Saying "not to be rude", then blatently being rude does not excuse rude behavior.
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Now, I have other programs that are high graphics demands that I will upgrade for, and they need a better system than the Sims 4 does, so I don't see that day as coming any time soon (or ever). But should it come, I'll simply stop getting expansions for the Sims. I'm still playing versions of TTRPG's that haven't been supported in decades, so I can certainly deal with it for a computer game.
I lovveeee the sims and kept getting lag on my old pc. I wanted to play max graphics max cc reshade and whatever else I could stuff in there to get the best gaming experience possible.
Guess what I did? Saved for a top quality second hand MSI gaming desktop after extensive research. I got the laptop version also. That's how good it was.(Best brand pc in the world imo)
I don't regret a penny spent and my game is so loaded with stuff it takes ages to load up but I love it. 😂😂😂once it does there is no lag no studdering. no issues what so ever. I brought a huge curved monitor, the first I ever had in my life and when I play my game it feels like I'm in sim heaven lol 😅
But all of this was from saving little by little from barely anything so I have wondered the same thing as you.
But I can't speak for anyone else's circumstances only my own.
If you have a laptop that works for you great. I'm talking about the people with the laptops for 2012 complaining about a possible open world in the Sims 5.
I play other games so I want a gaming PC that can play games from other game developers who have their games optimized for PC. I don't feel that the sims games are very well optimized for PC... I can't even play the sims3 without lag.
I do hope that if they are working on a sims5, then they will optimize it for both laptops and people with gaming PC's. I want enable high resolution textures for everything for example, the textures in the sims4 looks good...from a distance but as soon as you zoom in you see how low res some textures are.
However where I'm trying to get to is why do people complain about new features that might demand more system power when they are playing on 2009 PCs.
Well to many, myself included "open world" or "online multiplayer" means the game will subpar quality. Personally, I hate Sims 3 because it is open world. Well that and the controls are not user friendly. My point is that people are into video games for more reasons than you think. Myself, I play them until they can no longer work. I even played the first iteration of The Sims for 15 years without mods or cc. Only quit when it was no longer able to be easily downloaded on Windows 10. So, I am a gamer who doesn't just invest in a new product right away. In fact, I prefer offline video games and play Sims 4 offline 99.9% of the time.
I would assume that they are using sims3 as an example, the problem with that is that it had open world without using any of the methods that open world games uses today so they automatically assume that open world = lag. There are methods that you can use so that you don't need a strong gaming PC, GTA5 is a good example, that game is not too much demanding because they have very good methods to reduce textures loading for example.
@NorthDakotaGamer I don't specifically mean just the open world when I talk about expansive features (even though it's been 11 years since the Sims 3 and I'm sure an open world would work better now). I'm just talking more generally. Also I think in 2020 we should be able to get at least open neighborhoods or something.
@DeKay hmm that doesn't sound right. What laptop do you own? You might want to find some technical support on that.
When many people mention expansive features, it means an online component of some kind. That is a gigantic way to make me not interested.
It's a local company called Aftershock. They have videos of them showing gameplay of other games and the fps is not nearly as bad as I get on The Sims 4. For eg:
I've come to terms that this game is not very optimized for laptops. I can sometimes get an fps of 20-40 if I move the camera around a lot and only 60fps if I don't move the camera at all. 😂
I'm not sure if the sims4 is well optimized at all to be honest... I can run loads of games at Ultra settings but the sims 4... sometimes lags and uses a ridiculous amount of memory for me.
To be fair, sims games are probably a bit more complex sometimes. The fact that you can build and place anything in the world is probably pretty demanding, and also all the coding for the sims themselves...
Very good specs and had recently replaced my HDD with a SDD. Had this for almost two years now and more than going strong. I would assume people with very, very old hardware are most likely falling into the category of playing with the legacy edition of the Sims 4. I mean, yeah usually it is a money issue or possibly not 'wanting' to invest money into expensive hardware, but bottom line is...
Gaming is an expensive hobby.
As the years go by tech keeps advancing. Can't expect things to be compatible from the early 2000's to work with the tech now. If you're going to be investing money into buying packs and other games you add all that up and by then you definitely would have been able to afford a more than decent computer to play a lot of AAA games and games like the sims.
But there's also people that only just play the sims and not want to invest in a computer can also be it as well. Which is understandable.
Though you *can* sell your old computers as used at an affordable price, and buy used computers that are higher specs than the old one.