So, I have been vocal about feeling that Island Living disappointed me. I have long dreamed of a stunning underwater world in TS4, since its graphics is just perfect for magical, fantasy scenery, and what is more mystical than the ocean?
I posted a detailed idea for a Tiki Island Paradise EP a few years ago, but since IL is the EP we got, a GP that focuses on scuba diving adventures seems like the right way to go. Like how JA focuses on adventures in the jungle, this pack would have unlockable diving lots to explore, hidden lots and secrets to be found.
World
The world itself could be Tiki themed, with ancient tribal folklore and artifacts. Since the majority of the world is underwater, the overworld would be relatively small - maybe three rental lots and two beaches. This would probably be a destination world.
EDIT: Yeah, scrap the Tiki theme. Go down to my comment explaining a Cape Town overworld theme! Way more exciting
Diving spots
There could be five diving spots, each with a specific style. Each diving spot could act as its own neighbourhood, with a small lot and an expanse of public space. The spots should be big enough to be worth exploring, and not shy of heavy decoration when appropriate. Most of the diving spots would be locked, forcing sims to level up their diving skill and complete challenges to unlock new ones.
Shallow reef
Akin to TS3 diving spots, this spot would be a calming and relatively open. There could be a shallower area with a small reef, and more rocky areas as you go deeper. The sea life here could include star fishes, small stingrays, tropical fish and cute leopard sharks, as well as some shellfish. Collectables here are common, and you won't find any treasure chests etc. This lot is immediately available.
Yellow kelp forest
This spot is deeper than the shallow reef and is thick with long, gently waving kelp in various shades of yellow and brown. This has a more mysterious atmosphere to it, and occasionally tense since your sim can't always see what's lurking behind the kelp. It would be interesting if the water colour is reminiscent of blackwater. Sea life here includes bigger fishes that swim around lazily, lobsters and red crabs dwelling at the bottom, and a chance of a dangerous shark or barracuda appearing. Collectables here range from common to uncommon. You might find some valuables here, but mostly smaller trinkets. This lot could be unlocked at level 3 scuba diving (out of 10 levels).
Spooky green shipwreck cove
This spot is strewn with shattered pieces of multiple shipwrecks. Slimy green seaweed seems to grasp at passing divers, the water is murky green and ugly fish dwell through the haze and in dark corners. They say this spot is cursed, and the ghosts of the lost souls who die at sea wonder here at night. Sea life could include angler fish, sword fish, generally any ugly fish and dangerous sharks. There is a good chance of being attacked if your sim dives here, and if they aren't careful, they might join the ghosts who dwell here as well. Collectables here are often valuable, and sims may find treasure chests in the wreckages. They can explore inside the ships, sometimes having to figure out a puzzle or two (ex: finding hidden treasure vaults through hidden doors, getting past guard sharks etc). This lot could be unlocked at level 5 skill, after finding out about it from a local sim telling folkstales.
Mysterious deep sea caves
This spot should capture the mystery, spookiness and awe of the unexplored depths. The water is royal blue and fades into navy blue at the edges. This spot consists largely of a network of eroded caves. Sea life could include schools of tiny silver fish, little blue crabs and oysters that have a chance of containing shiny pearls. There isn't much life here, but that lends it a quiet, beautiful eeriness. There may be silhouettes of whales in the background - if a sim sees a whale, you can click on the silhouette and "speak whale." The only real danger here, is going too deep into the caves with too little air and thus drowning before you can get out.This diving spot is the portal to the hidden lot, and your sim will have to solve a few puzzles and find parts from various diving spots to put together and use as a key. This diving spot could be unlocked at level 4, but you can only successfully find the hidden lot at a minimum of level 7 or 8 because of the requirements to unlock the portal.
The Hidden Lot
The hidden lot could either be Atlantis or a Tiki Temple. I think Atlantis would be more interesting, but the lot could maybe combine the two by making Atlantis a Tiki temple that is mostly underwater but also leads out of the water into an air bubble. There could be interesting things to find in the hidden lot, as well as a magical item that gives you some control over sea life (mermaid-like powers, but more powerful).
Barbie Mermadia-themed spot
This would be a very girly but very beautiful spot, adorned with massive and plush pink, purple, blue and orange anemones, sponges, corals etc. It is essentially a fantasy reef. The water would be sparkling sapphire. Sea life could include beautiful, colourful fish, turtles and maybe a dolphin or two. Collectables here could be rare, since it is a magical place. This lot would ideally be unlocked through befriending a mermaid, but since that would rely on having IL, it would have to be unlocked through a different means. It should be unlocked with effort, and not simply through leveling up in diving skill. Possibly finding a special map, befriending a local and asking said local about the "missing pieces" that your sim doesn't understand because of a lack of folklore knowledge.
@NoirSims drew some concept photos for the dive lots!
Mermaids
If you have IL, mermaids get added functionality in this pack. Mermaids will spawn in the Mermadia diving spot, thus making it a very nice hangout for them. Generally, mermaids will absolutely love diving and start out with the skill maxed. They need no gear, can be underwater indefinitely, have special interactions with sea life, can eat raw kelp etc. Mermaids can socialize underwater as if they are on land, thus making it super easy for them to hang out at diving spots together just as well as at a bar. They have some special interactions with each other underwater and are able to survive there indefinitely, thus allowing us to pretend that they live there.
Normal sims diving
Sims need diving gear, which they can purchase at a stall on the island. More expensive gear have perks, but only up until a point (determined by your diving skill). Sims can also buy underwater cameras and take beautiful pictures, including selfies. If the camera's flash goes off, it may spook the fish, which have several possible outcomes. Fish may flee from you, attack you (specie-dependent and much more likely in creepy spots and at night) or be curious and approach you, for example. Sims can interact with sea life, catch them and possibly be attacked by them, possibly fatally (sharks). Sims can collect various things underwater, and solve the puzzles mentioned earlier. Clicking on a sim brings interactions such as: swim around, explore and admire surroundings. Sims can socialize underwater, but with some limitations, and socializing uses air more quickly. Sims can dive in groups.
Collectables
New fish, shellfish and sea creatures such as anemones. Shells, messages in bottles, treasure chests, artifacts.
Gameplay that is applicable to the rest of the game, even when not having a scuba vacation
- Fish can be released into pools now, thus making custom aquariums that aren't limited to small boxes and bowls. To turn a pool into an aquarium, choose one of the new "water paints" that clearly states that the water is "fish habitat water," specially manufactured to give your sim's fish the best life they can have. The fish will swim around in the water, and you can swim with them if the pool is big enough. There is a limit to how much fish can be stocked into a pool, depending on how big the pool is (something along the lines of each 1x1 block being able to house 3 fish etc). Special pool wall and floor textures like 3D rock, sand etc can be added to the aquariums to make them look more natural. There are also nice objects to decorate your aquarium, including rocks, coral, kelp and decorative treasure chests.
- Sims can practice scuba diving in pools, talk about marine facts, advocate protection of reefs and sharks and watch the Ocean TV Channel (many get excited about Shark Night).
- Sims can make jewelry (bracelets, necklaces and anklets) from shells and pearls. They can be gifted, sold and proudly worn.
- Underwater cameras can be used in pools, in Sulani and in general.
- Cool octupus paintings make everything better.
Comments
Thank you so much and have a lovely day
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I agree. At least this pack would hopefully then make the best scuba diving experience of the sims franchise and make it feel like a unique adventure, not a DLC for DLC. This pack would actually be a very interesting pack on its own. I think exploring the ocean is even more intriguing than exploring a tomb, since I wish I could but am way too terrified of the ocean to ever attempt it in real life. It's wish fulfillment, stunning scenery and a cool twist on the "explore and solve" theme.
Yet another thing that I would love in real life but that I could never afford, is a massive aquarium. It's so magical, and being able to build them in TS4 would open up a whole new realm of possibilities. It's been a super common thing for simmers to try to create wall-to-ceiling aquariums since long before TS4, so I am 100% sure some people would buy this pack just for that feature. Also, since it would have to include (mostly) seamless windows for authentic aquariums, builders would rejoice for that much-requested item too.
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#makemermaidsfun
It would be so interesting to build underwater! I'm guessing that you'd have to use the free build cheat to edit the lot (like with Forgotten Grotto, Sixam etc). I wonder how it would work, though. Would building a room create an air bubble?
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I hope not, well it could be optional because I'd like mermaid furniture and having them live underwater.
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(MISSING ITEMS)
(1) Tree house!
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(4) Extra animal beds!
(5) Factory departments!
(6) Factory jobs!
(7) Supermarket departments!
(8) Supermarket jobs!
(9) Retail departments!
(10) Retail jobs!
(11) Beauty salon departments!
(12) Beauty salon jobs!
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(14) Art jobs!
(15) Swimming life guard departments!
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(18) Big school jobs!
(19) Nursery departments!
(20) Nursery jobs!
(21) Primary school departments!
(22) Primary school jobs!
(23) College departments!
(24) College jobs!
(25) University jobs!
(27) Administration office departments!
(28) Administration jobs!
(29) Cars for travelling!
(30) Vans for travelling!
(31) Buses for public transport travelling!
(32) Company lorries for travelling!
(33) Trains for public transport travelling!
(34) Delivery driver jobs/ lorry drivers and van drivers!
(35) More house roofs!
(36) Extra flowers!
(37) Squirls!
(38) Bats!
(39) Birds!
(40) Ball room department!
(41) Cows!
(42) Sheep!
(43) Insects!
(44) Hedge hogs!
(45) Parrots!
(46) Pigs!
(47) Seagulls!
(48) Extra fish tanks!
(49) Extra fish!
(50) Road signs!
(51) Extra cafe shop departments!
(52) Extra restaurant departments!
(53) Sports departments!
(54) Sports jobs!
(55) Hospital departments!
(56) Hospital jobs!
(57) Police departments!
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(59) Helicopters!
(60) Helicopter jobs!
(61) Red telephone box!
(62) Red letter mail box!
(63) Street bins!
(64) Street bin cleaner jobs!
(65) Mobile phone shops!
(66) Mobile phone shop jobs!
(67) Motorways!
(68) Motorway traffic officer cars!
(69) Hotel departments!
(70) Hotel receptionist jobs!
(71) Police cars!
(72) Police camera vans!
(73) Farming jobs!
(74) Horse riding jobs!
(75) Farmer jobs!
(76) Security jobs!
(77) Shoe shop!
(78) Shoe shop jobs!
(79) Glasses opticians shop!
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(81) Belly piercing!
(82) Tongue piercing!
(83) Extra tattoos! (Dolphins) (Stars) (Dolphins) (Fairies) (Moon) (Hearts) (Butterflies) (Flowers) and more shapes!
(84) Fish tank decorations!
(85) Food supermarket isles!
(86) Drink supermarket isles!
(87) Nose hoop piercings!
(88) Tongue piercings!
(89) Belly piercings!
(90) Upper ears piercing!
(91) Tragus ears piercing!
(92) Nipple piercing!
(93) Car parks!
(94) Bus stations!
(95) Train stations!
(96) Railway track!
(97) Airplanes for travelling!
(98) Airports!
(99) Crains!
(100) Space Rockets!
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With the ability to create real aquariums with pools, having sims live in pools would finally be more fun, though! It's sad that mermaids have no point for existing in any other world than Sulani, since we can't swim in other worlds' water yet. I really, really hope they update that. But even then, mermaids would probably like a little underwater paradise for themselves to escape in in their homes. I watched this YouTube video of a man who has a massive aquarium in his living room, and I think it would be perfect to have that kind of thing for a suburban mermaid. Guests just think that it's a really cool decorative feature, but in secret the mermaid is hanging out in there, swimming and playing with the fishes etc.
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I will remind you that the gurus put on one of the last surveys, which EP/pack would you like added to and maybe, Sulani won?
The dive spot idea, I'm not as keen on. Since they messed it up in Island Living, I don't think it would be right that way. I wouldn't want a dive world hood. Plus, we just got an Island world, so not sure they would revisit a theme so close to what they already put out.
I could see one huge spot of sand(like the mini world for Realm of Magic) and this being an Island Get-away/resort that sims can go to or own. There should be at least another spot to build your own and perhaps a small island or two for off the grid. Then sims dive down to...
SimLantis. I have requested this before many times. Sims can dive down to the underworld in the water and meet the lost civilization that use large shell masks to breath with. Mermaids are present, but you can't be one, add one, ect unless you own Sulani. You can't even get to friend level. That way it protects the mermaids being a Sulani thing, while they are still at the underwater world. This would also introduce houseboats that was left out of Island Living. Sims could stay at the resort or on a houseboat(Sulani and maybe others would be updated so houseboats could be used there, especially Island Living.)and go visit in Simlantis where all things ocean rule. Maybe shell houses. Haven't thought it all out, but I think the basic idea of this was on an early survey.
They just don't add as much to Sims4 packs as they did with Sims3. All the supernaturals compared to one/houseboats, divespots, resort of your own, mermaids, whole world, ect. This would be a way to correct what they left out and put in resorts and houseboats while giving us diving back and a whole underwater world.
The things you mentioned above are my favorites...I'm not huge on leveling up, so I don't want puzzles and a bunch of leveling up in the Sims4; we have too much already. Can't be your world; you rule if there are so many leveling up parts that it keeps you from telling a story. I have had that problem lately and by the time I get anywhere, I give up because it takes too long. It's frustrating instead of intertaining. Perhaps this is one thing that takes the fun out of the Sims4. Regardless if we want different things or not, you have some exceptional ideas that I would love to see happen.
I chose to describe this pack as an adventure/solve the puzzle so it isn't too similar to IL - then it isn't just a DLC for IL, but a theme of its own. The world doesn't even have to be Tiki/Paradise, since there are many places where people can scuba dive irl. Australia (great barrier reef) and South Africa (Cape Town and Durban) are some examples that I can think of off the top of my head. It would actually be amusing to make South African scuba diving the theme of the overworld, since a "living fossil" fish was found here that scientists thought had gone extinct millions of years ago. This fish could inspire some gameplay in studying ancient marine biology, and they could have been living in the Lost City of Atlantis all this time. There is even a place in Cape Town called Atlantis. Also, Cape Town has a very beautiful aquarium in the Waterfront (time to show off all the new aquarium functionality) and natural kelp forests, so geographically most of these scuba diving themes would fit perfectly here.
I will elaborate on a Cape Town scuba diving theme at the end of this comment to conclude replies on your comment first. I'm getting ahead of myself
Back to unlocking/leveling up/solving puzzles, for simmers like yourself who don't want to have to do that and simply want to dive freely, there should be cheats to unlock all spots etc
Now that I've typed out the Cape Town idea, Simlantis sounds even more intriguing than before It would be really cool to see mermaids both in the water and walking around in the air bubble. A reference to the Disney movie Atlantis would be very cool, with the mermaids having white hair, blue rune tattoos etc. Shell houses sound amazing!! The way I picture them, they'd probably be more like tents than actual buildable houses, but either way they sound very pretty and fun.
CAPE TOWN WORLD THEME
Cape Town is a peninsula, so the diving spots could be dotted along the coast and deeper into the sea.
The Waterfront
There could be a fancy hotel resort in this area, as well as an aquarium museum and a quaint harbour bar.
Boulder's Beach
If CT wasn't magical enough already, we have a beach inhabited by penguins. The "reef diving spot" could be next to this beach, and there could be a simple beach hut to rent if you can't afford (or don't want) the fancy hotel.
We also have these, if the team wants to base the resort off of it:
Yellow kelp forest
Yeah, this is actually what inspired my idea for this dive spot. The exhibitions at the V&A Aquarium in CT make it look so magical. Also, penguin alert!
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