The latest release of this so-called "Expansion Pack," sounds the absolute death knell for the franchise. The developers are recycling content in so blatant a manner--while ignoring ALL of the problems that Simmers have brought up for YEARS--that it can only mean they have entirely given up on the franchise and hope to wring a few last dollars out of players before moving on to TS5.
It is almost comical how the trailer showcases all the unfixed problems: children, elders, and family units are difficult to come by, the focus being almost completely on young adults; technology and materialism is hilariously showcased as the answer to environmental woes (buy cool machines, solve all your problems!); NOTHING is offered to fix fundamental problems with Sims, the emotions, their personalities, their relationships, their attractions...ANYTHING. If anything the trailer suggests that everyone is the same and wants the same things and yay, work together, woo, so who cares about personality anyway.
And this is an EP. Not a GP. AN EP, centered around a theme that they started to play with in several previous packs, most recently in IL. This is all they care to offer at this time.
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TS4 seems to have the most packs that are contained to one world and/or a do-once-and-done linear experience. And that’s crazy considering how limited of a Sims game it is. But again, I’m not surprised. It’s been six years of this. Go wild, Maxis.
I read a post on Reddit just before I want to add to this thread:
As for the reddit quote, while premade stories are something really not that big of deal, all it does it just show that devs had passioned for the game. While these things to handcrafting premade is little, these little things do make the game interesting when starting playing the Studio's offered neighborhood.
I know Eco living won a stuff pack vote a while back, but it was just that - a stuff pack idea. I think most people expected eco living to be worked into packs in smaller ways, and at most a game pack - not a whole expansion pack's worth of content. Generally you want an expansion pack to be marketable to a wide audience, which is what they've done in the past. I agree with Simmer Erin that such niche gameplay would have been better suited to a game pack.
Well, the pack actually looks cool, but as a gamepack, not an expansion pack. I'll keep my eye on reviews, though. At least this should give a bit of a boost to the "off the grid" trait, right?
Where are the improvements to gameplay you guys have been asking about in the surveys? Where are the deeper personalities, traits overhauls, interest points, attraction systems, where is more gameplay for other life-stages than young adult?
Are they literally just trying to get Greta to play the Sims 4?
Dude, no thanks. Vote with your dollar, people. Don't pay for this.
If anyone needs me, I'll be in Desiderata Valley.
Quite frankly, I enjoy having my sims be business owners but I struggle getting them rich enough to do that. The more cost efficient I can make a sim, the more money I will have for the business without cheating. So I'm looking forward to seeing this particular aspect of the game.
Next. I saw dumpster diving. Now, what if they took the rags to riches challenge and incorporated it into this. You can literally be homeless. I feel like this is wishful thinking. But I really would like this if it was part of the game. *fingers cross*
I don't think is the fake leak that are causing trouble with the community. People are affraid this will be another empty 40 dollar pack with content that is fun for a while but after a period of time it becames boring and no one will talk about anymore!
We're not supposed to clean the world. The world will change for the better or the worse depending on what the player decides to do.
And that is exactly the cynical cycle EA profits from. Don't get me wrong, I have been guilty of it too, but this last year has made their money-grabs SO PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that I am done. They can't even be bothered to come up with a unique idea for an entire EP--I don't even mean totally original, just something that TS4 hasn't done before. It's all recycled. EA is clearly telling us they have more important things to work on than this franchise, so I guess I do too.
Prreacch ;-;
It's not done because it's still releasing packs, still selling well, and still has loads of people who love it.
Think you missed the point of their post....we KNOW they are gonna still release packs, but the core gameplay is basically done.
Doubtful, with the surverys asking things about freeing babies and more gameplay for diff ages and stuff.. A lot of people voted for that and they'll take it into consideration even if it takes a few years to come out.
A life simulation has to be on the height of current life and I don't see that anymore in TS4. In the beginning (post-)pandemic era this funny cartoony 2011 world will soon look vintage like a TV ad from 1979. And where should new gameplay come from when every animation that exceeds standing/sitting in front of a computer/machine/crafts table seems to hard/expensive to do?
I'm the opposite. Sims 2 (and 3) are extremely boring to me. I have tried over and over to like them, but after an hour or so I shut it off bored out of my mind each time I play. I have them both, I don't have all the packs for 3 but for 2 I do. Even before 4 was released though I got excited and would spend maybe an hour two every day for a week but then loose interest for years. (Same with Sims 1 tbh, I spent more time on it than the later ones) I think they are all good games, not great, but good. After playing Sims 4 I just can't seem to go back (I've tried, it doesn't work)
Sims 4 on the other hand I don't seem to ever get bored of. I can play for sooo many hours. The sims have the best personalities of all the games, the art style is by far the best, the emotions could use some minor tweaking, especially when it comes to mourning, but it's minor enough that the game is still easily the best of them all so far, whether with or without mods (I use a couple of them in about 50% of my gaming sessions)
I do agree about university though, I wish we could follow the Sims to class and bikes should have been for kids too. It's definitely my least favourite expansion and I regret getting it full price, but the expansion before it, IL is my all time favourite expansion (I have them all) and I still can't get enough of it even after moving all my families there full time. So overall I wouldn't say it's going down hill.
You're exactly right. The game has always been intolerable compared to previous iterations, for anyone who likes depth. For people who think Instagram is the real world, I suppose this is the game for them. But for those who liked the depth of personality, consequence, memory, and real emotion, there has never been anything in TS4 approaching that.
The question was just will they ever try to FIX it and bring back the game as it should be. The answer now is clear to me: no.
I dunno, it's my favourite and I don't usesocial media haha, def. not an instagram user, I think that's for a younger generation or something. Just got my first cellphone actually last year haha so I'm not really up to date on all that stuff. But I'm a writer and the strict limitations sims 2 and 3 have make it quite boring to someone who wants to create stories rather than have the Sims do their own thing. They are more like watching tv then creating and Sims 4 finally allows for imagination and creativity to be a part of the game play. The depth is there, you just have to imagine and create it yourself.
I don't want to judge you and everyone have different tastes but... HOW? How do you manage to think that? I kinda wish I could say something like that!