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UPDATE 9-2-20 Has your Sims 3 game been affected by the recent pixilation issues?

ZeeGeeZeeGee Posts: 5,355 Member
edited March 8 in Nominated Threads
UPDATE: 3/8/2021 Cororon has been affected now and is determined to figure this out, yaaay! Please go to her thread on Nvidia and support her efforts to have Nvidia take a look at what's going on.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/438312/sims-3-colour-banding-and-artefacts-with-nvidia-dr/

UPDATE: 9/2/2020: Naus has narrowed down the issue (see page 17 of this thread) and Infragreen has some possible fixes and has started a thread at Nvidia to get some attention. Please post there if you're having this issues. Let's be loud and get this solved!!!

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/395894/horrible-color-banding-texture-handling-and-dither/

UPDATE 6/19/20: I'm updating this thread to reflect the REAL issues in the game that was caused by the early December Windows update. Some of the issues I showed pictures of were already in the game and always an issue. I just didn't noticed until I went looking for them.

The real issues are worse color banding and the pixilation of sims' skins and faces. The pixilation issue especially affects sims with darker skin color or who are out at night time. Installing Reshade and editing the color banding option does help with this issue and Archivist provided instructions for that on this thread.

The other issue is horses used to look like horses and now don't completely render. The cheap fridge issue was evidently always in the game and even happens on Linux systems.

This poll is not accurate as some who said they were not affected have now been affected.
A recent Windows update (yes, it has been narrowed down to that) has caused all kinds of crazy pixilation issues in a lot of our games. Have you been affected? I'll put pictures of the issues in the second post.

ETA: One of the reasons for this post is I recently saw someone who was complaining about their graphics on FB get jumped on by a lot of players saying how awesome Sims 3 graphics are. I think they thought it was an old 'sims 3 graphics are horrible' rant but it wasn't. Just want everyone to be aware that this is happening so we can be supportive to those who are affected and let them know what's going on. Yes, sims 3 graphics are the best! But not when they're borked.

ETA2: For those who don't hang out in the techie section, these are the things I've tried: First thing was Nvidia, had long chats with them 2 nights in a row. No help. Finally told me to go back to the developer. Tried reporting to Windows. No comment. Tried rolling back graphics driver. No help. Tried a total reset thinking Windows would be restored to the original condition when I purchased the computer. That doesn't work anymore. Windows now restores the updates along with your system restore. No way I can find around that. Puzzlezaddict did some testing here if you want to look at that thread in the techie section. Posted over at NRaas. The techies over there think it is definitely a Windows update, and also that it is affecting more recent games than Sims 3, even some of their Xbox games. Because of this they think Windows will eventually fix it. That's where we are now.
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UPDATE 9-2-20 Has your Sims 3 game been affected by the recent pixilation issues?

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  • ZeeGeeZeeGee Posts: 5,355 Member
    edited June 2020
    My game has been affected and I'm upset
    EDITED TO REMOVE PIC OF CHEAP FRIDGE AS EVIDENTLY THAT IS AN ISSUE IN EVERYONE'S GAME THAT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF SIMS 3!
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  • Nikkei_SimmerNikkei_Simmer Posts: 9,404 Member
    Other. Please explain in comments.
    I can’t even play right now so luckily for me, hopefully this whole mess can be averted by the time I get access to a computer again.
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    Always "River McIrish" ...and maybe some Bebe Hart. ~innocent expression~
  • ZeeGeeZeeGee Posts: 5,355 Member
    My game has been affected and I'm upset
    @Nikkei_Simmer I'm so sorry. I hope so too.
  • puzzlezaddictpuzzlezaddict Posts: 1,877 Member
    edited January 2020
    My game has been affected but it doesn't bother me
    It's affected my game, whether I run it on the dedicated or integrated graphics card. But it doesn't bother me because I haven't played in a while—I hadn't even noticed until your earlier thread on the issue prompted me to test.

    I do hope it gets fixed soon though.
  • ZeeGeeZeeGee Posts: 5,355 Member
    My game has been affected and I'm upset
    @puzzlezaddict Your testing is so much appreciated. At least now we know exactly what's causing it (and you saved me from buying a new computer that would have done the same thing) :neutral:
  • cocococo Posts: 2,722 Member
    My game has been affected and I'm upset
    I don't know how long this has been going on in my game but I think I have always had blocky/pixelated shading to a degree. I don't think I have it as bad as that third picture with the wall though. I get the same effect on fridges, although I think there were a couple that didn't look as bad. It bothers me the more I think about it and I would like to see some fix implemented in a future update. As this is affecting other games I think we can be hopeful that some action will be taken *fingers crossed*.
  • carlystur03carlystur03 Posts: 435 Member
    Other. Please explain in comments.
    I wasn't aware there was a pixilation issue in the game. It has to do with a Windows 10 update, I guess? I'm still playing on my Windows 7 OS. I'm seeing if I can wait until I can either upgrade my computer parts or just get a new comp with 10 on it before I put Windows 10 on here.
  • ZeeGeeZeeGee Posts: 5,355 Member
    My game has been affected and I'm upset
    @coco I think mine has never been perfect but it's never been this bad. And thanks for mentioning that it's happening in more recent games too! I forgot.

    @carlystur03 Yes, it was a Windows 10 update. I immediately tried to see if I could still purchase a Windows 7 computer and it's not possible anymore. So I'd advise not upgrading!
  • ZeeGeeZeeGee Posts: 5,355 Member
    My game has been affected and I'm upset
    I've just added this to the first post: One of the reasons for this post is I recently saw someone who was complaining about their graphics on FB get jumped on by a lot of players saying how awesome Sims 3 graphics are. I think they thought it was an old 'sims 3 graphics are horrible' rant but it wasn't. Just want everyone to be aware that this is happening so we can be supportive to those who are affected and let them know what's going on. Yes, sims 3 graphics are the best! But not when they're borked.
  • Nikkei_SimmerNikkei_Simmer Posts: 9,404 Member
    Other. Please explain in comments.
    ZeeGee wrote: »
    @Nikkei_Simmer I'm so sorry. I hope so too.

    No worries, @ZeeGee, I’m planning to build an actual gaming system with dedicated graphics card when I am able to do so. But it won’t be anytime soon. Still job hunting.
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  • MikezumiMikezumi Posts: 49,697 Member
    I'll have to take a closer look next time I play. My eyesight is quite poor and I might have missed it if it is occurring in my game.
  • KynanKynan Posts: 468 Member
    My game has not been affected
    That looks bad, but I haven't noticed anything like that in my game. I'm sorry you are having this issue.
  • Nikkei_SimmerNikkei_Simmer Posts: 9,404 Member
    Other. Please explain in comments.
    ZeeGee wrote: »
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    I used to get this before the update when I used to play Sims on medium-low settings. I’m wondering if the update is mucking with the graphic cards’ settings if everyone is getting this at uktra high settings.

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    Always "River McIrish" ...and maybe some Bebe Hart. ~innocent expression~
  • JACKIEJOYJACKIEJOY Posts: 802 Member
    I had to play on low graphics for so long that I didn't even realize this was not how the game was supposed to look. Even with this the game looks so much better on ultra than on low for me. Does lowering settings help any at all?
  • GraceyManorGraceyManor Posts: 20,079 Member
    edited January 2020
    My game has not been affected
    I don't think mine has been effected, and if it has I don't notice it.

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    Edit: I just realized my game hasn't updated yet...I'm a little nervous to do it now.
  • Nikkei_SimmerNikkei_Simmer Posts: 9,404 Member
    edited January 2020
    Other. Please explain in comments.
    @JACKIEJOY; I play with integrated graphics chip (not recommended by any stretch of the imagination - just can’t afford a dedicated graphics card at the moment) not a dedicated graphics card so I can’t raise my graphics settings past medium-low unless I no longer want to have a CPU. Fried CPUs don’t compute well. :mrgreen:

    If you have a dedicated graphics card you don’t have to lower your settings at all.

    At this point it looks as though it’s flat single solid colour surfaces are what is affected by this striated pixellation effect. Every thing else is either unaffected or the patterns are masking the problem.

    Whatever it is, I hope EA can get to the bottom of this but my gut says that it’s not considered a problem due to the fact that “all resources are being dedicated to TS4 at this point so that their gamers get the best experience”. /sarcasm/ We’re an afterthought.
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    Always "River McIrish" ...and maybe some Bebe Hart. ~innocent expression~
  • KevinL5275KevinL5275 Posts: 2,489 Member
    My game has not been affected
    Is it an AMD vs NVIDIA thing? I have an AMD Radeon 7770 and I have not noticed this issue on my game.
    I'm a 48 year old married man, with a beautiful wife, a cat, and a simverted personality.My Sims 3 Pictures
  • Nikkei_SimmerNikkei_Simmer Posts: 9,404 Member
    edited January 2020
    Other. Please explain in comments.
    Maybe to get a clearer picture those who are affected should state whether they’re using sample picture of the effects they’re seeing/using either AMD/NVidia/which graphics card/what settings to give a clearer picture as to who is being affected and which graphics cards are being affected as it at this moment is not “clearly across the board”.

    Shoot a screenshot against a flat single coloured surface at the highest graphics settings that your graphics card can manage. As I said before the effect appears to make itself evident the most when shot against such a surface.

    Inject humour: at this point maybe I should say Trust me, I’m a photographer -I’ve had some experience in dealing with resolution settings in photo editing.

    And it appears to be an issue where we’re going to have to narrow down the problem from our graphics cards to something the update carked up before anyone will do anything about it
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    Always "River McIrish" ...and maybe some Bebe Hart. ~innocent expression~
  • puzzlezaddictpuzzlezaddict Posts: 1,877 Member
    edited January 2020
    My game has been affected but it doesn't bother me
    Maybe to get a clearer picture those who are affected should state whether they’re using sample picture of the effects they’re seeing/using either AMD/NVidia/which graphics card/what settings to give a clearer picture as to who is being affected and which graphics cards are being affected as it at this moment is not “clearly across the board”.

    Shoot a screenshot against a flat single coloured surface at the highest graphics settings that your graphics card can manage. As I said before the effect appears to make itself evident the most when shot against such a surface.

    This.

    May I suggest people use the cheapest (§350) fridge as a test? The lines are really obvious, indoors or outside, on any graphics settings. I'll upload some pics later today, but I didn't notice much difference when I switched to the integrated chip.

    And it would also be helpful to state which Windows build people are using, and whether it's fully updated.
  • nickibitswardnickibitsward Posts: 3,115 Member
    ZeeGee wrote: »
    @coco I think mine has never been perfect but it's never been this bad. And thanks for mentioning that it's happening in more recent games too! I forgot.

    @carlystur03 Yes, it was a Windows 10 update. I immediately tried to see if I could still purchase a Windows 7 computer and it's not possible anymore. So I'd advise not upgrading!

    I play on my desktop, which has Windows 7. I am loathe to change to Windows 10 so if this PC ever fails don't know what I'll do. My machine is 5 years old now but it is a top-of-the-line gaming rig and working perfectly fine, it has all the bells and whistles and there is nothing I can add to it.

  • ZeeGeeZeeGee Posts: 5,355 Member
    My game has been affected and I'm upset
    Mikezumi wrote: »
    I'll have to take a closer look next time I play. My eyesight is quite poor and I might have missed it if it is occurring in my game.

    @Mikezumi I'd love to know if it has affected your sims' faces. That is the killer for me. I could deal with the fridge or the walls during gameplay if the sims' faces weren't so pixelated. Some CC skins seem to make it even worse.
  • ZeeGeeZeeGee Posts: 5,355 Member
    My game has been affected and I'm upset
    @JACKIEJOY I have never actually thought about lowering the settings, but I will try that. Though I believe puzzlezaddict has tried that as she booted up with just an integrated card and the issues were still there.

    @GraceyManor I would advise not updating! Your game looks beautiful right now but landscapes don't seem to be as much affected as indoor items and sims's faces.
  • ZeeGeeZeeGee Posts: 5,355 Member
    My game has been affected and I'm upset
    KevinL5275 wrote: »
    Is it an AMD vs NVIDIA thing? I have an AMD Radeon 7770 and I have not noticed this issue on my game.

    @KevinL5275 That is actually why I was considering buying a new computer with an AMD card but turns out others have been affected with those type cards so that might not help.
  • GraceyManorGraceyManor Posts: 20,079 Member
    My game has not been affected
    Unfortunately I had no choice but to update if I wanted to shut my
    Computer down while at work I don’t know if it effected my game or not
  • ZeeGeeZeeGee Posts: 5,355 Member
    edited August 2020
    My game has been affected and I'm upset
    Shoot a screenshot against a flat single coloured surface at the highest graphics settings that your graphics card can manage. As I said before the effect appears to make itself evident the most when shot against such a surface.

    @Nikkei_Simmer That is a good idea. And as stated in puzzlezaddict's post, that cheap fridge is the quickest indicator that there's an issue. Anyone who does this I'll add a link to the second post so people who want to see this info won't have to go searching through the thread.
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