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The Discover University Livestream was a dissapointment.
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As the titles says this presentation of the pack was uninspiring, chaotic and boring. I was excited about the pack but because of the stream i think it looks terrible.
The Lady with the curly hair was annoying. She seemed bored and was all over the place. Did barely pay attention and got distracted way too much.
They would forget answering questions, which becomes annoying, when you consider that there was so much silence. It was really unprofessional and quiet hard to sit trough and pay attention. Awkward pauses... ''Hmm what should we show now'' questions
Really?! They litteraly didnt know what to do after one hour. A 2h Livestream like that is tiresome and i learned my lesson.
The promotion for this Uni Pack is all over the place... silence... gameplay trailer, that doesnt really show the features... no date for when the embargo lifts for the game changers... its ''on the weekend'' ... we dont know when the patch arrives...
I miss the trailers from get to work. Behind the scenes from artists that did simlish versions of theyre song, or even some ads like the stillLife trailer.
They should just do a producer walktrough that is maybe 10 minutes, highlights the features and tells the story. Does anyone remember These trailers?
An Q&A Blog about the most asked questions and leave the showcasing part up to the game changers. At this point they are doing it waaay better then the gurus themselves anyway.
I do find it irritating that you never see SimGuruFrost in the streams. Why is there litteraly someone that has to pay attention to the questions from the fast twitch community chat, when this is someting the Community Manager could do. Why isnt he the one asking the most common questions. Also why didnt they used the other room.
But at least the one in the middle was enthusiastic... even though the robotic talk got kinda annoying. I know they arent professional streamers and arent used to be live in front of 1000 of people...
At the same time one would think a billion company studio would get theyre stuff together after 5years, but okay.
So how do you feel about the Livestream and the pack presentation and what could of been improved?
The Lady with the curly hair was annoying. She seemed bored and was all over the place. Did barely pay attention and got distracted way too much.
They would forget answering questions, which becomes annoying, when you consider that there was so much silence. It was really unprofessional and quiet hard to sit trough and pay attention. Awkward pauses... ''Hmm what should we show now'' questions
Really?! They litteraly didnt know what to do after one hour. A 2h Livestream like that is tiresome and i learned my lesson.
The promotion for this Uni Pack is all over the place... silence... gameplay trailer, that doesnt really show the features... no date for when the embargo lifts for the game changers... its ''on the weekend'' ... we dont know when the patch arrives...
I miss the trailers from get to work. Behind the scenes from artists that did simlish versions of theyre song, or even some ads like the stillLife trailer.
They should just do a producer walktrough that is maybe 10 minutes, highlights the features and tells the story. Does anyone remember These trailers?
An Q&A Blog about the most asked questions and leave the showcasing part up to the game changers. At this point they are doing it waaay better then the gurus themselves anyway.
I do find it irritating that you never see SimGuruFrost in the streams. Why is there litteraly someone that has to pay attention to the questions from the fast twitch community chat, when this is someting the Community Manager could do. Why isnt he the one asking the most common questions. Also why didnt they used the other room.
But at least the one in the middle was enthusiastic... even though the robotic talk got kinda annoying. I know they arent professional streamers and arent used to be live in front of 1000 of people...
At the same time one would think a billion company studio would get theyre stuff together after 5years, but okay.
So how do you feel about the Livestream and the pack presentation and what could of been improved?
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I’m disappointed that there’s no new trait because we desperately need more traits!!
The livestream was informative but a bit all over the place.
I hope we can see more Simguru Azure, in the lead! She was really awesome, great, fun, sweet,...
Simguru Azure should have had the keyboard control as she seemed to be at least the only one who really knew how to play and I found it frustrating having to watch her teach the other how to play...
The sims didn't do as they were told many times and it was frustrating to see them tired all of the time or having to pee, just cheat the needs for the stream at least!
It was all around pretty terrible and made me actually not want to buy it.
The robots were great IMO, but I'm not paying $40 for just those...
I kind of disagree. There was more to show and a bunch of questions left, they just didn't know where to go after that first 1.5 hours because they were unprepared. They could have shown something about the repo man. How the end of term works and starting another. They should have sims played and ready to graduate to show where they can start in careers after. They could show sims failing and what happens then. There was more they could have done to use the time better but they weren't in the least prepared to do this. Despite us all knowing the date of this thing, it's like they didn't know who would be doing it and they just threw those poor people in at the 10 minutes to launch mark. Really unprofessional.
When they did ROM the guru's were excited and actually ran out of time...
All of this makes me think that this pack was rushed and not well thought out.
ETA: also, I had the feeling there were parts of the game she didn't know anything about at all? Like that awkward moment with the "cramming sessions" that could happen in the library? Idk she seemed to answer as if that's the first she's heard of it and I felt the Guru on the left was a bit flustered by her responses. ^^
I don't think you'll discover much than that playing by yourself. Like I said, 95% was already shown. Simmers will be asking for more after 1 week.
This is exactly what I think everytime I see TS4. Wow nice looking game but then, uh no no, gameplay is seriously lacking.
Two hours long and it felt like I learned very little about the pack (assuming there is anything more to it). They spent way too long trying to show off the chest external inventory feature and then they wasted so much time on the boring juice keg event (I know these are easy to make, but these events are grindy and terrible!).
I think it would be far better to do Producer Walkthroughs like we’ve gotten throughout TS2 and sporadically throughout TS3, complemented by an organized livestream afterwards, to show off a bit more and, more importantly, take some questions from fans.
I literally learned nothing I wanted to know. I wanted to know about rotational gameplay. I wanted to know if I could send sims from different households to the same dorm one by one or at the same time. When people are looking forward to the toilets and CAS the most, Houston we have a problem. They didn't even go through the build\buy items and spread them out on a lot...UGH
I mean, fans all have different play styles and want to see different things. It's probably easier to do a stream for a pack that just focuses on one play style, like how ROM is essentially entirely supernatural.
I thought the stream was fine. It was a little long but I had a much better idea of the content at the end. Everything? No, but if I want that then I can work through the game.
It might make sense to have more than one livestream. I don't really like calling out specific gurus too much, especially women in the tech field.
Sure, they went through the CAS/BB pretty quickly and no, not all of what was shown appealed to me. I thought it was fine though. If anything, if it were overly polished, it would seem more like marketing spin.
-This is a university pack and they never once showed a single sim go to class. I know classes are rabbitholes but not a single one actually went. They didn't even show a sim taking classes from home.
-They never showed a debate and hardly focused on scholarships or anything uni related to be honest.
-They didn't talk much about the new careers either which is something I was curious about.
-They spent way too much time talking about the robots which I will maybe use once and forget about like I did with the ones from ts3 because they take up room in your household and I like to have large families.
-They went through CAS/BB way too fast.
-They didn't even show how it would work to play a sim at uni while your other sims are still at home.I guess it will work similar to rotational gameplay which i'm not a fan of.
-Also how would it work if your sim get pregnant while at uni? They mentioned that they can't live in dorms so will they be kicked out of school or will they have to move?
At this point they leave all the important features to be talked about by the game changers. Why even do a livestream if that's the case?
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One of the Sims did go to class during the stream, another one headed out but they stopped her because they were showing something else.
As for pregnancy, it won't affect the Sim's enrollment (they'll be able to stay in class) but they'll need to move out of dorms, they did answer this in the stream - I'm assuming the Sim will be prompted to move when the baby is born.
About Sims at Uni & their family/pre-Uni household, you have two (ish, because there are dorms as well as residential living) options:
- Your Sim enrolls in University and stays living at home. They'll travel to rabbit hole classes when needed, visit campus for events if you want them to (in which case it's the same as traveling with one Sim). No rotation needed there.
- Your Sim moves out to dorms (or their own residential lot) and becomes a separate household. In that case, yes, if you want to play the rest of their family too, it will need to be a rotation system.
Initially they talked about showing off CAS/BB but there were many responses from people on twitter that they wanted to see gameplay because CAS/BB will have multiple review videos from GameChangers, so I'm guessing that's why they didn't really spend time on either of those. (also there were a bunch of complaints that there was too much CAS/BB time in the RoM livestream back when they did that one).
SimGuruAzure seemed to be the most informed on this pack and it was great listening to her explain how some of the features worked. I wasn't really impressed with much else and the stream did feel quite disorganized.
As already mentioned, a script or even some sort of cue card would probably help the gurus keep on track and make sure they don't forget anything important. I also think it would be a good idea to gather questions a few days before the stream, rather than only answering them live. Maybe there could be a thread posted here on the forums and the most frequently asked questions are the ones that get answered first.
like they got beef or some sort? maybe that was just me.
we know that they're developers and not streamers but they could have picked up someone more professional i'd say.
I saw so many critisicm about the livestream on differente socials(some of them were nasty not gonna lie). I think they will change it next time, grow and learn.
I mean at the end it is was it is and i move on at this point. Won't watch a Livestream, learned my lesson. We have to see, that with every expansion pack differente gurus are working on them. Its a good idea, that we see those who were the leaders on this content in the livestream.
Maybe a Q&A Session would be enough to answer the questions and maybe share a little bit of the behind the scenes and ideas of it.
I still think Game Changers should be showcasing the content. Arent they supposed to do this anyway? I know most Game Changers are biased, but are the gurus better? I mean there are over 100 Game Changers that get early access, there will be some people who are honest and neutral.
They get to play the Game for 8hours and can always ask questions to the gurus personally. Which is why, they ask theyre audience, what they wanna know.
And even after the Game released there are non Game Changers who review the content really nice.
@ChampandGirlie
And no its not easy to critisce... for me at least. . But its something that i wanted to let it out. I often feel bad for the gurus to be honest. But this is the feedback section and we are allowed to share our concerns, and not just wash everythin off just because we arent in this job and
''dont know it better''
NOOO I also felt a bad vibe between them.